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Can someone explain why the film never got nominated in the Best Animated Feature category?

I'm curious about that too although I'm quite glad this debacle of a film never got a nomination.

Because there were only three slots available in the category as less than 16 films were submitted for consideration that year. More academy members of the animation branch voted for Toy Story 3, How to Train Your Dragon, and The llusionist and/or placed them higher in their preference list than Tangled. It's not that complicated.

I didn't know about that rule, Nice to know. Thank you.

I do really feel Tangled should have been nominated; the lanterns scene alone is totally iconic, and a beautiful piece of cinema. Shame it missed out.

Atlantica wrote:I do really feel Tangled should have been nominated; the lanterns scene alone is totally iconic, and a beautiful piece of cinema. Shame it missed out.

I agree.

I also think it should've been nominated. In my opinion, it deserved the nomination more than The Illusionist. The French film was beautifully drawn, but I found its story a bit underwhelming. And I think Tangled should've won best song.

Sotiris wrote:Because there were only three slots available in the category as less than 16 films were submitted for consideration that year. More academy members of the animation branch voted for Toy Story 3, How to Train Your Dragon, and The llusionist and/or placed them higher in their preference list than Tangled. It's not that complicated.

Those three films are definitely better than Tangled. *shrug*

I disagree. I thought Toy Story 3 was mediocre with two emotional scenes which clouded the rest of the film's mediocrity.

farerb wrote:I thought Toy Story 3 was mediocre with two emotional scenes which clouded the rest of the film's mediocrity.

Agreed. And it was too derivative and unoriginal to boot.

Sotiris wrote:

farerb wrote:I thought Toy Story 3 was mediocre with two emotional scenes which clouded the rest of the film's mediocrity.

Agreed. And it was too derivative and unoriginal to boot.

Finally...I thought I was the only one

farerb wrote:I thought Toy Story 3 was mediocre with two emotional scenes which clouded the rest of the film's mediocrity.

I feel the same way about Up too. Outside the opening 'married life' sequence, the rest of the film is quite forgettable.

REINIER wrote:I thought I was the only one

You're definitely not alone. Going from the consistently good, innovative and genuinely affecting Toy Story 2 to essentially a lesser rehash of that was disappointing. I expect Toy Story 4 to be even worse.

Sotiris wrote:

farerb wrote:I thought Toy Story 3 was mediocre with two emotional scenes which clouded the rest of the film's mediocrity.

I feel the same way about Up too. Outside the openinng 'married life' sequence, the rest of the film is quite forgettable.

Agreed. I always felt the reason both were nominated in the Best Picture award was because they increased the number of nominees to ten and probably felt obligated to put at least one animated film.

I think Toy Story 3's win is very deserved, and Toy Story as a series thus far has progressively improved, imo, although I wouldn't be surprised if TS4 is the first step backward. I have to laugh at the suggestion that, considering the all-around bad treatment of animated films at awards shows, the Oscars would've ever felt obligated to nominate an animated film for Best Picture. No, it was just that good.

HTTYD was okay, but there was a lot of bad to go with the good in that film, just like with Tangled. It never stood a chance. "I See Your Light," on the other hand, I would agree was robbed, even if the song could've been enormously improved with better singers (either/or better voice actors v. an End Credits version)

I liked Toy Story 3 as much as its predecessors but I agree that Up is highly overrated. The first ten minutes of the film are all anyone really remembers anyway.

As for Tangled, although it was a box office hit, from what I remember, the critical reviews weren't exactly raving. They weren't terrible (probably because the films before it were so horribly received by audiences so anything seemed like a step up), but people felt that it wasn't at all worthy of being labeled Disney's 50th animated classic. Which itself was a marketing tool Disney used after the film cost so much money and they were desperate to balance that out.

HTTYD is a mixed bag. It's really beautiful but the story points are also pretty cliche- overbearing parent, geeky nerd protagonist, bonding with special pet, etc. I guess it works for the first film to be cliched to have a starting point and in the sequels develop more original ideas.

Toy Story 3...I kinda agree with what others have said earlier.

I need to see the Illusionist to gather an opinion, but French animated cinema is usually good, so who knows.

Tangled is nice and entertaining, but it does feel very safe in many aspects. Like it was thought by marketers first and foremost, like to have the ultimate Disney film but without any potential risk that might alienate audiences (and customers from buying dolls). The backgrounds are always pretty, Rapunzel is the most Barbie-like of the princesses in terms of design, hardly any scary content, and Flynn has that Dreamworsk-y humor which was appealing back then.

farerb wrote:I disagree. I thought Toy Story 3 was mediocre with two emotional scenes which clouded the rest of the film's mediocrity.

Agreed. Toy Story 3 was watchable and passable enough and had a couple of entertaining bits. But it was overall not as brilliant as the majority wants it to be. I especially disliked the tackling of the villain, who was just a rehash of Stinky Peet, at least in terms of backstory and motiviation and how underdeveloped he was as at the end.

As for Up, I find it to be a better film. But it's somewhat odd in terms of consistency (the talking elements). And making Carl's childhood hero the villain was just off, when the story didn't needed him to be the villain. He's the catalyst for Carl's quest, so why even have him to be the villain?

I don't really like Flynn Rider he feels too smug and morden.

I will even go so farr as to say. I find Shrek to A hundred times more subtle and likeable than him.

Characters like Shrek , Mulan and Simba i feel i care about more.

They seemed a little more genuine.

Honestly what you've described about Flynn is how I feel about pretty much the entire film's cast. Rapunzel, Pascal, Maximus, and Flynn are all super grating and irritating to me. The same goes for the side characters like the Stabbington Brothers and the Pub Thugs. Gothel is decent but her character is only halfway formed.

I used to really hate Flynn. I'm not sure if the animated show improved on his character or if it just made me understand the character more? Either way, I like him more now than I did pre-show.