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Lady Cluck wrote:Does that make Winnie the Pooh, Wreck It Ralph, Big Hero 6, and Zootopia all The Rescuers Down Under?

No, that would just be Pooh because, like Rescuers Down Under, it's the only other sequel (right now, anyway) in the Disney animated canon. So WiR would be this generation's Aladdin.

That may be the biggest stretch of them all. There's no exact formula to a string of quality Disney films so we should just enjoy it while it lasts and hope it continues. Frozen is more like BATB anyway with the Broadway style, recognition at the Academy Awards, etc, but that's ridiculous too.

Anyway I'm also glad that "Moana" is the official title.

We've got this story that's set 2000 years ago which we're building around a 14 year-old heroine. That's the youngest character Ron and I have ever built a film around. And while we want to do something that honors the culture of the South Seas, at the same time, we want to make a film that will work for people all around the world," John Musker
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-hill/ ... 15894.html

Of course it is a stretch, which is why I said "To me". It's just my opinion. I wish nothing but success for Moana. I'm just saying that this new Disney era we're in reminds me of everything I've read and researched about 1989-1990s Disney. The coincidences and similarities are all there.

I don't think they're rushing this project. Clements and Musker have been working on this project for a while (and when it's eventually released, it will be seven years since their last movie). I think this is simply a case of the production running more smoothly than Giants, hence the release date switch. Plus, with two years to go, there's plenty of time to work out what potential story problems turn up.

From that little blurb, it has really sparked my interest now whereas before I wasn't really that bothered, other than the fact it was Ron & Jon.

estefan wrote:I don't think they're rushing this project. Clements and Musker have been working on this project for a while (and when it's eventually released, it will be seven years since their last movie). I think this is simply a case of the production running more smoothly than Giants, hence the release date switch. Plus, with two years to go, there's plenty of time to work out what potential story problems turn up.

Agreed. The hardest part is developing the story and characters, incorporating the music, etc. Once production really gets underway, everything just happens rather quickly. Clements and Musker probably have all of their ducks in a row in what sounds like a promising passion project, and there's still plenty of time.

Giants needs a lot more work from the sound of things. Another twist on Jack and the Beanstalk?! Really, Disney? I wouldn't even be disappointed if it was ultimately shelved. I'd rather see an adaptation of Little Miss Muffet.

I'm just so darn glad that we FINALLY have something announced for Moana or Giants. Like I said a while back, it's frustrating as heck that Disney always hides everything, unlike Dreamworks & Sony Pictures, which announce every single, tiny movie that gets greenlited. But, now we have a peace of mind of what's going on and in what year. It's really heartbreaking that Giants might have gotten shelved (or at least in a hiatus to focus on Moana; I don't trust the person who said that), but at least, we got one out of 2 movies. Also, I knew that Moana had to come early. It has been in developed since 2011, so I was wondering why it was taking so long until 2018. Moana releasing in 2016 makes so much sense. Even much more since than Giants in 2016 because that started late 2012/early 2013, right?

BTW: I'm calling it: Miss Saigon (UK)'s Eva Noblezada will be Moana. Listen to that voice!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVmn73Cx7Ic[/youtube]

sigh, guys I know most Disney films have comedy, but thats not what Im complaining about. I mean the way they now have to promote every film as being a "comedy". Imagine if they made Sleeping Beauty, Hunchback, or Fantasia today and promoted them as "comedy" adventures. Does that sound right to you? NO!

anyway im excited for Moana and am glad we dont have to wait til 2017-2018 for another fantasy film! and they are calling it Moana and not Ocean or Sails or some stupid one word title, yeay!

on Cartoon brew there is another article about the film that described it has having a demigod character(the male lead i assume) and at one point they visit the underworld... all very Hercules-like isnt it? So far the movie sounds like a cross bw Hercules(mythic stuff), Treasure Planet(adventure, ships) and Pocahontas(the respect for nature/ocean stuff).

ok and now a nitpick- this looks like its gonna be yet another story of a female character going on a journey with a male characer... where have we seen this story structure b4?

Calling it now

The Princess and the Frog- Oliver & Company
Tangled- The Little Mermaid
Winnie the Pooh- The Rescuers Down Under
Wreck-Ir Ralph- Beauty and the Beast
Frozen- Aladdin
Big Hero Six- The Lion King (possibly Nightmare Before Christmas if it doesn't do THAT well? I don't see it tanking at all)

Avaitor wrote:Calling it now

The Princess and the Frog- Oliver & Company
Tangled- The Little Mermaid
Winnie the Pooh- The Rescuers Down Under
Wreck-Ir Ralph- Beauty and the Beast
Frozen- Aladdin
Big Hero Six- The Lion King (possibly Nightmare Before Christmas if it doesn't do THAT well? I don't see it tanking at all)

Actually, isn't Bolt the Oliver & Company of this generation? I mean The Princess and the Frog (while not a runaway hit) convinced people to start seeing Disney movies in theaters again, like The Little Mermaid did back in 1989.

DisneyJedi wrote:

Avaitor wrote:Calling it now

The Princess and the Frog- Oliver & Company
Tangled- The Little Mermaid
Winnie the Pooh- The Rescuers Down Under
Wreck-Ir Ralph- Beauty and the Beast
Frozen- Aladdin
Big Hero Six- The Lion King (possibly Nightmare Before Christmas if it doesn't do THAT well? I don't see it tanking at all)

Actually, isn't Bolt the Oliver & Company of this generation? I mean The Princess and the Frog (while not a runaway hit) convinced people to start seeing Disney movies in theaters again, like The Little Mermaid did back in 1989.

I agree with DisneyJedi. I feel like The Princess and the Frog, similar to The Little Mermaid, was a film that was a return to Disney's fairy tale musical roots and showed audiences it was cool to go see traditional Disney films. I still think it was a successful film. It wasn't a MEGA hit like Tangled and Frozen, but the money it made was good enough, and it paved the way for Tangled and Frozen, just like Mermaid paved the way for Beauty, Aladdin, and Lion King. I also feel like Wreck It Ralph is this generation's Aladdin, or maybe that distinction will go to Big Hero Six?

Zootopia's Nick Wilde & Judy Hopps Shadows.


http://www.tumblr.com/search/big+hero+6/recent

And look at Ralph's feet: Could that be Moana on the sketch?

unprincess wrote: on Cartoon brew there is another article about the film that described it has having a demigod character(the male lead i assume) and at one point they visit the underworld... all very Hercules-like isnt it? So far the movie sounds like a cross bw Hercules(mythic stuff), Treasure Planet(adventure, ships) and Pocahontas(the respect for nature/ocean stuff).

Do you have a link? That sounds really interesting. Honestly, it only makes me more excited since I love Hercules.

Disney's Divinity wrote:Do you have a link? That sounds really interesting. Honestly, it only makes me more excited since I love Hercules.

It's on the official synopsis:

http://blogs.disney.com/oh-my-disney/20 ... a%7C%7C%7C

DisneyJedi wrote:

Avaitor wrote:Calling it now

The Princess and the Frog- Oliver & Company
Tangled- The Little Mermaid
Winnie the Pooh- The Rescuers Down Under
Wreck-Ir Ralph- Beauty and the Beast
Frozen- Aladdin
Big Hero Six- The Lion King (possibly Nightmare Before Christmas if it doesn't do THAT well? I don't see it tanking at all)

Actually, isn't Bolt the Oliver & Company of this generation? I mean The Princess and the Frog (while not a runaway hit) convinced people to start seeing Disney movies in theaters again, like The Little Mermaid did back in 1989.

Maybe, idk. It really does seem like Princess and the Frog, as much as I enjoyed it, has been forgotten in the past few years. Which fits the Oliver & Company distinction, since that was actually a pretty big hit for Disney as well that has been relegated to C-tier as the Renaissance went on.

Or maybe we shouldn't try to compare Disney's movies from this era to the past, and focus on them as they are.

disneyprincess11 wrote:And look at Ralph's feet: Could that be Moana on the sketch?

Here's a bigger version but it's still hard to tell

http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads ... IAL_v3.png

It is a nice reminder of how strong Disney has been for the last 5 or 6 years. I love every character in the shot except that damn hamster from Bolt. Can't we forget about him?!

disneyprincess11 wrote:I'm just so darn glad that we FINALLY have something announced for Moana or Giants. Like I said a while back, it's frustrating as heck that Disney always hides everything, unlike Dreamworks & Sony Pictures, which announce every single, tiny movie that gets greenlited.

To be honest, I actually prefer Disney and Pixar's approach. I find it annoying when one of the other studios announces a project I get really excited about, we don't hear anything about it for a number of years and then it's revealed it was cancelled. More studios should adopt the Disney/Pixar way of officially announcing a movie when they're absolutely certain it's going to get made, rather than the second it gets greenlit. That Newt is the only movie Pixar has ever announced that ultimately didn't get made is really impressive.

Im really surprised to see Princess and the Frog and the Pooh charaters in that picture since the studio pretty much considers them failures.

the way Anna and Elsa are touching and looking at "big heroes" Jon and Ed is a bit creepy...what the heck is that all about?!