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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:04 am
by DisneyFan09
robster16 wrote:Two days ago I was fortunate enough to attend a masterclass Glen Keane gave in Paris, where he talked about his work from the early days up untill Rapunzel and they screened several scenes. The first sequence of Rapunzel inside her tower, and the first encounter between Rapunzel and Flynn when she knocks him out with a frying pan. The animation is INCREDIBLE! It's as classic Disney as you could get. It's rich, has personality, and just gorgeous, gorgeous gorgeous and so full of life.

Afterwards I went to a gallery opening where they opened an exposition of Glen's work, both personal and Disney related. Amazing. Got to meet Byron Howard, Roy Conli and Glen. Managed to have a quick chat with him and then the next day I went back to the gallery to check out the works more quietly, because it was too busy the night before. And by chance Glen was there, so I was lucky enough to get the chance to sit down with him and chat for a good 20 minutes, show him my work, get some tips and talk to him. Really talk. An absolute dream come true! Just AMAZING!!

Here's a picture of me with Glen at the gallery opening :)

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Cool pic. Was Glen nice?

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:44 am
by Fairytales
In the sample of "PROLOGUE" you can hear Rapunzel sing as a little child!
It sounds kind of weird, to be honest.

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:45 am
by Atlantica
What a wonderful opportunity to meet him ! So very happy for you :)

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:55 am
by Fairytales
RodryCroft wrote:
Fairytales wrote: Ooooh i suffer from the same! and everytime i think about Tangled i'm like EEEEH :D :D
it's seriously getting scary! :lol:
I know what you mean... my classmates say me everyday that I have to see a doctor, they say it's starting to be unhealthy xD
The worst part is I think they're right XDDDDDDDDDD
hahah i've decided not to talk to them about this, because i know that as soon as i start, i won't be able to stop! I am dropping hints like: 'Mandy Moore is such a great singer! I heard she's doing a voice in a new animated movie!' :wink: :wink:
But i also drive them crazy with accidentaly spoilering everything about Glee, because i've watched every episode till now on internet but they watch it on dutch tv where we are still in season 1.

And Glee should totally do a disney episode! But that's offtopic :)

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:40 am
by Sotiris

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:48 am
by DisneyDude2010
Has anyone else seen the New Winnie the Pooh trailer ...
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could someone please give me a link to the winnie the pooh thread please

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:51 am
by Sotiris
DisneyDude2010 wrote:Could someone please give me a link to the winnie the pooh thread please?
http://www.dvdizzy.com/forum/viewtopic. ... &start=340

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:02 am
by DisneyDude2010
thanks ^^^^

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:10 am
by Sotiris
DisneyDude2010 wrote:another new video!!!!
Thanks but that video has already been posted a few pages back.

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:32 am
by robster16
Thanx DancingCrab, RodryCroft & atlanticaunderthesea

@ PatrickvD: I studied animation at the Academy of Arts in Tilburg. I now work in advertising, but the drawing/animating bug never died on me and I feel like I should do more with that :) Thanks for the kind words on my work. I should update my blog some more though :) haha

@ SWillie! & DisneyFan09: Well, when I went to the galerie the next day to examine the works properly (as it had been too busy the night before during the opening) it was still closed but the girl there told me to come back between 1 and 2 in the afternoon which I did and low and behold, the entire gallery was empty, except for her and her collegue and Glen sitting at a table, signing books that were left behind by people or something. So after a while I walked up to them and asked if he would be able to sign something for me. An autograph in my sketchbook. Anything haha!

He asked me for my name again, he must have remembered my face from the night before. So I sat down next to him and he asked me where I was from, and that he thought it was awesome that people had travelled from other countries for this. He then asked me if I worked in animation and I told him that I work in advertising but still animate. We talked about the advantages of working in advertising . How you switch projects faster and don't get caught up in projects for too long. And then talked about the production process of Rapunzel, later Tangled. How he was making a much darker movie where the bright aspects were brighter and the dark aspects were a lot darker and that it made some people at Disney pretty nervous. He briefly mentioned the Rapunzel Unbraided era, and that he wasn't feeling the project in that version but he just had to let go and trust in the fact that everything would turn out alright, which it eventually did when Byron and Nathan stepped in so he could fully focus on the animation.

Then I put my sketchbook on the table and he asked "So what's this?" I said that it was my sketchbook and he started to look through it. He said "Wow, you have some really nice stuff in here. I like how you construct shapes. You've got talent". I practially died right then and there. I got out my other sketchbook with more stuff, so he flipped through that and told him that working at Disney had always been my goal but that when I finished my study they ended their 2D animation program and my dream was basically shattered. So he then said "You should go to Disney!" I was stunned. My idol, saying I was somehow worthy. I mean... I was always afraid to submit a portfolio so this was like... AMAZING to me. He asked me if I was still animating because he would be interested to see my animation work.

He carried on looking through my sketchbook and said I draw pretty girls, but that the only thing he missed was that I didn't draw enough from life. There were too many finalised, finished forms in there. So he suggested that I draw more from life, so he stood up and walked to a drawing he did of a couple dancing and said to me that he made that drawing because of something that attracted him, the shape of her neck flowing all the way down to her toes and the way it turns and twist. And by drawing so much from life he sort of has a sense of knowledge on how the body can move and how it does move and that he injects that into his work, to breathe life into it. And that was something I should always look for. Because a lot of people can draw well, but when they start animating they still rely on formula, and if I could transfer my sense of drawing into animation that that would be a real plus.

We then sat down again and he flipped to an empty page, grabbed a pen and then started to draw me. Sitting there, across him at the table. Really quickly. I was just stunned and watched his hand as it moved across the paper and lines turned into shapes. Magical, just amazing. To have my idol draw me, as a sort of private lesson on how to draw. During which he told me where he would start and what attracted him or caught his eye while drawing. Then he signed it and I could see he was thinking, hesitating and contemplating what message to add to the drawing for a few moments. Then he added a personal message to me and his autograph. I told him that he couldn't possibly know how much this meant to me and he said: "Well, I don't do this for just anyone. Only for people that I think are worth investing my time in." I mean... I'm still surprised I didn't break down right there, haha!

So I thanked him again and told him that I would be following his advice and work on my craft and submit my work to Disney then, and he said.. "Wait... lemme just.. let me write down the email address of my assistent", which he then wrote down in my sketchbook. :o

I was besides myself with joy. The man is just so incredibly kind and you can feel his passion for drawing and his art by the way he talks. It's electrifying to just sit there and hear him talk and describe how he works and what he does. And when he looks at you, he reaaaally looks at you, you can tell that he listens to every single word. You also feel instantly at ease around him. One of the most humble, talented and kind people I have ever met!

I spent some more time photographing every piece of artwork at the gallery and then spent the rest of the day floating through Paris. On cloud 9. Like, in full and complete amazement, at some point just laughing out loud for no reason with tears in my eyes. Seriously the BEST trip I ever made! It felt like it was fate or something that I should run into him at the galerie the day after. I can't describe how much this means to me and now I finally have the courage to submit my work to Disney soon. But first I need to work and train and remember his lessons.

Here is the portrait that Glen made of me, below it says: "To Rob, See the world around you and capture it's beauty, it's life, it's truth! - Glen Keane (Paris, Arludik Gallery, Nov 10th 2010)"

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I'm still exstatic and in complete awe and feel totally unworthy. This trip has been more then I could have wished for! :)

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:42 am
by PheR
wow Rob! you're the luckiest person ever!! to have a portrait of yourself made by Glen Keanne!! it's like having a Da Vinci in the Renassaince or something... you should frame it! that'sa story for your gandkids!!

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:56 am
by skyler888
also these new samples are much better! I love everything! the 3rd When Will My Life Begin reprise is awesome!

and I love mother knows best! it's the most Broadway sounding song Disney has ever produced I think

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:08 am
by PatrickvD
robster16 wrote:T@ PatrickvD: I studied animation at the Academy of Arts in Tilburg. I now work in advertising, but the drawing/animating bug never died on me and I feel like I should do more with that :) Thanks for the kind words on my work. I should update my blog some more though :) haha
I see! I graduated in Illustration in Breda last year. Upon graduating I wasn't sure what to do with it so I immediately started a new study, so I'm now busy with television sciences in Amsterdam. Illustration and even animation do start itching, I totally get it, so I'm currently trying to figure out what I'm gonna do with it and how it will fit into my life.

I'll save your blog and keep an eye on it! Again, great job and it's truly awesome you got to meet Glen Keane.

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:11 am
by DisneyChris
Rob, that's an amazing story! I wish I could meet someone like Glen to inspire me like that. Hope you'll get into Disney someday and we'll get to see your work on the big screen! :)

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:24 am
by PheR
isn't the toddler Rapunzel singing the cutest thing you've ever heard? specially after that dark score bit in the prologue. we'll all melt when whe see this I'm sure :)

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:50 am
by DisneyDude2010
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:05 pm
by RyGuy
In the sample of "PROLOGUE" you can hear Rapunzel sing as a little child!
It sounds kind of weird, to be honest.
I agree. When I heard it it, I thought, "Seriously"? Couldn't they find a child actor who is able to carry a tune? Perhaps they thought it was cute that she didn't sing that well? (not to pick on her too much, though . . . she sings much better than I do).

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:46 pm
by megustajake
Robster, thanks for giving us such a detailed recap of your experience with Glen Keane - that's amazing! What's the link to your blog? Would love to check out your work.

Also wondering if you'd like to marry me, haha.

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:10 pm
by Fairytales
Got bored and decided to draw this crappy animation... it's not.. much but whatever

http://i53.tinypic.com/2egbnrq.gif

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:12 pm
by eralkfang
Robster, what a wonderful story! I kind of teared up over Keane's portrait of you, I gotta admit–what a dream come true! I second the call for a link to your blog; I'd love to see your work!

While I quite like the concept of a little kid not singing well (you gotta start somewhere!), I wish she'd tried singing versus the speak-singing she's doing. Oh well.