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Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:58 am
by Kyle
atlanticaunderthesea wrote:Did they INTEND Anna to look like that ?! Why on earth ... ? Seems like her cross-eyed poster wasn't a mistake ...
I'm thinking/hoping they simply based this prototype (if it is indeed a prototype) on that early leaked image, and that they will have a new one made to reflect the tweaked design without the cross eyes.
As it is, it appears the CG version of the design has been adjusted. She's still a bit cross eyed, but its not as severe as the figure.
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:05 am
by Lady Cluck
Well Anna is described as goofy and awkward so maybe this will be a signature face she makes in the movie

Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:28 am
by disneystarsfan
janesjubilee wrote:I was able to go to the D23 Expo this weekend and got to go to both the Animation panel and Frozen panel. The film looks amazing so far and I have full faith in it.
I got some pictures of the concept art and I put it up on my tumblr (there's a lot of pictures).
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I got the Disney Store dolls as well.
Anna & Elsa
Elsa Doll Details
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Anyone else get sort of a modern Sleeping Beauty vibe especially from the style of those furniture pieces? There's a lot of detail in the concept art.

Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:43 am
by Atlantica
Haha, maybe ! Just don't understand where that design even came from !
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:11 am
by disneyprincess11
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:07 am
by Atlantica
I can see a Sleeping Beauty element in the architecture of the buildings - looks promising !
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:52 am
by tomakpo
Besides, the CGI allows the detail to be always there.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leeFZF7xoPg[/youtube]
I like that they say Frozen reminds of an old school Disney Movie.
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:37 am
by jazzflower92
So, it left that good of an impression well I am defiantly seeing this in theaters.
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:35 pm
by disneyprincess11
Frozen is up at the Disney Store. If you look up FROZEN on the site, it'll say stuff is coming soon.
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:09 pm
by Warm Regards
Elsa's ice palace in the movie.

Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:17 pm
by disneyprincess11
MUCH, MORE MORE DESCRIPTIVE SUMMARY OF THE CLIPS FROM SATURDAY! THEY PRETTY MUCH GIVE AWAY THE SCENES! SPOILERS
Now onto the clips they showed. They showed four. At least one of these (the third one), wasn’t completely animated yet, still some effects to add and whatnot…
1) The first clip was shown at the beginning. It’s Kristoff and Sven in a cabin. Kristoff is singing and playing some string instrument (like a guitar, but I’m pretty sure it’s not). He’s singing about how he doesn’t like other people, he likes reindeer like Sven. He sings some parts as Sven. They are about to go to sleep, when Anna bursts in and says “nice duet.”
2) The next clip introduces Hans. He’s a prince from a neighboring kingdom. It’s when he meets Anna. The scene opens with Anna standing on a pier/deck, when someone behind her startles her. She falls back into a boat that’s at the edge of the pier. The boat is about to fall into the water, but a horse stomps on the other end, anchoring it to the pier. Hans reaches out a hand to help Anna. She’s immediately infatuated with him and vise-versa. (I’m attracted to Hans too personally, haha.) They introduce themselves to each other. And when Anna says she’s the princess, he kneels before her. Pardon me because I can’t remember the dialogue much at all. But Hans is shown to be very much a gentlemen. There was an awkward silence and staring between the two when suddenly bells ring and Anna says it’s time for the coronation and she has to go. Hans falls back into the boat somehow, his horse removed his leg, so Hans and the boat fall into the water.
3) The third scene was the coronation. (I believe this was Elsa’s coronation, now making her queen.) Before this, they said that Anna and Hans had spent the evening together (a date, I guess basically, but they didn’t use that word). Anna wants to marry him immediately after. However, Elsa does not approve and thinks this is very childish and impulsive of Anna, agreeing to marry a man she just met. Cue the scene. The sisters are arguing. Once again, sorry, I fail at remembering dialogue. But Elsa says something along the lines of “you asked for my blessing, but I don’t give it” and starts to walk off. Anna tries to stop her and takes off her glove in the process. She’s asking Elsa why she is so cold and distant. Why has she drifted away from her. Elsa is becoming upset (since she does love her sister and only distances and detaches herself to protect Anna). You can see that Elsa is starting to lose her composure. She yells something like “leave me alone,” sweeping her hand and causing a wall of ice to form between her and Anna. Everyone in the ballroom stops to watch the scene unfold. Elsa is terrified she just used her powers. Anna and everyone else is confused and shocked. A man (a guard maybe) (The Duke, I think) accuses Elsa of sorcery/witchcraft and orders that she be stopped. Elsa runs out of the room. Anna runs after her and Hans runs after Anna.
Elsa flees outside and immediately runs into some townspeople. They are all talking to her. She is trying to avoid them and run through the crowd. A woman with a baby stops and notices Elsa is very upset and asks “is something wrong, Queen Elsa?” The guards/The Duke catches up and yells for people to stop Elsa. Overwhelmed, Elsa backs up and clutches to a fountain. She uses her powers again, freezing the water. The townspeople back away, including the woman with the baby, and other parents clutching their children and moving away from Elsa. Anna catches up and yells for Elsa to stop. Elsa once again uses her powers and blasts ice at the doorway, slowing Ana and the guards down. Elsa continues running and leaves the castle. She comes to the water outside and realizes she has no where else to run. She steps back and sees that her feet are freezing the water below her. So she takes off running across the water on the ice formed by her feet, and escapes into the woods. Anna and Kristoff stop at the water and look on. Anna says she has to find her sister.
4) The last clip introduces Olaf. Anna, Kristoff, and Sven are walking through the snowy forest. Some water droplets have frozen on vines hanging from a tree. Sven’s antlers get stuck in the vines and he happily plays with them. Anna and Kirstoff are walking when they hear a voice. They can’t see where it’s coming from, but enter Olaf, walking behind and in between them. When they noticed him, they both freak out. Anna especially, as she kicks Olaf causing him to lose his head. A chaotic scene occurs with Kristoff and Anna juggling Olaf’s head around, until it finally finds its place back on his body. Anna gets a good look at Olaf and suddenly softens, asking him if Elsa created him.* Olaf says that he was made by Elsa. Anna asks if he knows where she is and if he could take them to her. He says yes and asks why they want Elsa. Anna says that they want to make this winter end. Olaf expresses excitement, wondering what it would be like to be a snowman in the summer. He sings a hilarious song about it, believing he will just be sunbathing and swimming and picnicking, not realizing that he will melt. (He almost comes to the conclusion though, having a word in the song rhyme with “puddle,” coming across a puddle, pausing, but then happily jumping over it and replacing the line with another lyric.) After he finishes, Kristoff is like “we gotta tell him (that he’ll melt)” but Anna’s like “no don’t be mean.” And Olaf leads them off to find Elsa.
*The reason Anna knew Elsa created Olaf, is because when they were children, they built a little snowman named Olaf. So Olaf will play a part in being that kind of happy memory for Anna, as well as a symbol that Elsa still cherishes the times when her and Anna were children.
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:27 pm
by tomakpo
Oh god that's a lot of info but I don't want to spoil anything :S
I think I'll pick just one
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:31 pm
by jazzflower92
With each passing information I feel more Wicked vibes coming from this movie.

Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:46 pm
by Patrick
I'm working on editing and enhancing the art Jane photographed. There's nothing I can do for clarity and grain, but I can fix the perspective and play with color. It'll take a bit but I figured I'd share the first image.

Thanks so much for posting, Jane!
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Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:44 am
by Atlantica
That's very kind of them to share that breakdown for us.
Sounds like a nice couple of scenes were shown. Am worried that it will be quite 'sidekick focused' like Cinderella and her mice. Comic relief and showing unity between Anna and Elsa as children fine, but don't over egg the pudding so to speak.
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:09 am
by Lady Cluck
Olaf's song actually does sound pretty funny from that description
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:48 am
by Atlantica
It does yes, for sure, but it is a verrry fine line between a good sidekick ... and the gargoyles / mice etc.
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:22 am
by Lady Cluck
Luckily Disney will never make a main character as bland as Cinderella again.
The human characters in Hunchback are all flawless so the gargoyles don't bother me as much. They're not as bad as everyone makes them out to be anyway. Only their song stands out as crossing the line of annoyance, but that's more of an issue with derailing the tone of the movie at that point than the characters themselves.
If the human characters in Frozen are strong, and it looks like they will be, Olaf shouldn't be too much of a nuisance for people who find him annoying.
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:23 am
by Atlantica
It's not so much the weakness of the characters; it is just too much screen time. Too much was given to the mice, Ray in PATF, the list goes on. Tangled got it right with Pascal, in my opinion. I just don't want it to happen here is all.
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:53 am
by taei
atlanticaunderthesea wrote:It's not so much the weakness of the characters; it is just too much screen time. Too much was given to the mice, Ray in PATF, the list goes on. Tangled got it right with Pascal, in my opinion. I just don't want it to happen here is all.
Tangled got it right with Pascal.. But they messed up big time with Max. I still think that the horse got more screen time that the villain, which is not good. He was annoying as heck and I dread watching the movie every time because of him.
However, with Frozen, it looks like it's a step back from that. I haven't seen anything involving Sven other than the toys. And the clips we got doesn't even have him. I think Olaf will be a better sidekick. He has something to do with the actual story, compared to max, pascal, and Ray. He was part of the sisters' past and he leads the characters to Elsa. I still think he knows that he's gonna melt. Especially after the whole puddle thing. It would be cool for them to have it like that. "The Impossible Dream!", so... This is just a theory... But someone mentioned that
the trolls are rocks.. Do you think that Olaf will become rocks? I mean, his shape fits a rock element more than a snowman. He looks like Geodude and Onyx from Pokemon.