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Re: Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:00 am
by Lady Cluck
DisneyFan09 wrote:
Lady Cluck wrote:Tangled would never really work on Broadway though. It belongs on a cruise ship to be honest, so this is a good place for it.
Why? Do you not consider the plot to be epic enough?
Not at all. Not much to expand on for a full length Broadway musical and as much as people complained about the "adventurous road trip" element of Frozen, that's pretty much all there is to Tangled.

But more importantly, Disney intentionally moved away from typical Broadway musical style for Tangled and went back to it for Frozen, so I don't see how one could find the former more suited for stage than the latter. The musical sequences in Frozen are dramatic, stagey, and written to be performed by incredible singers. Tangled's are light, poppy, and fun, and they fit the tone of the film, but they just wouldn't cut it on a Broadway stage.

Hopefully the new songs add some flavor to the production, but I still say it belongs on cruise ships and theme parks until I hear more. I'd love to have my mind changed though. I just think it needs more work to be truly Broadway-ready, whereas the groundwork for Frozen is mostly there.

Re: Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:12 pm
by Jay
If Tangled was made into a Broadway show I think Idina would make a good Mother Gothel. She has the pipes and the right look for it.

Re: Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:29 pm
by Disney's Divinity
That would be cool, actually. :D

I think they could make Rapunzel work, especially with some of the things Miss Manday came up with. The thing about Menken's soundtracks is that it's easy to make reprises for later moments in the movie. I'd love a "When Will My Life Begin? (Reprise)" woven into a "Mother Knows Best (Reprise)" at the end as Rapunzel's remembers that she's the stolen princess and then confronts Gothel. Especially if Rapunzel does the majority of the latter and Gothel is the one who is all "Um, uh?!" like Rapunzel was when Gothel was scaring her in the first part of the movie--showing the dynamic has changed and Rapunzel has taken her independence back. They'd definitely give Flynn a song, too.

Re: Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:51 am
by Miss Manday
^ That's exactly what I was thinking. :) A "Rapunzel Knows Best" sort of reprise. It would be great showcasing of the character development.

Re: Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:41 am
by Atlantica
Wow, that would be superb ! Could start from, "Did I mumble, mother …. ?" Gosh, that would be PERFECT ! Brilliant idea ! :up:

And wow, that Disney on Ice idea was pretty neat too. If they can manage to put Mermaids on stage, make carpets and nannys fly, they could certainly do hair :wink:

Re: Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:37 pm
by Disney's Divinity
Yes, "Rapunzel Knows Best." :P

And I personally would like if they also did a finale/choral reprise of "WWMLB?" at the very end, too, similar to how TLM ends "now we can walk, now we can run," etc. Maybe something like, "Now my/our life/lives can begin."

Re: Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:26 am
by Atlantica
Exactly what I was thinking too; a duet of Eugene & Rapunzel and the Disney Chorus. Kind of like how Ariel & Eric where included in the Broadway 'Happy Ending' of Mermaid;

'Sailing forward,
Standing steady,
Starting life completely ready …\

'Just you and me,
And I will be
Part of your world !'

Re: Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:31 am
by Sotiris
Roy Conli reveals that there was a lot of pressure on the studio to make a sequel to Tangled.
He says there was no pressure to build a Big Hero 6 series. Under Lasseter, the decision on sequels always rests with the filmmaker, not the marketing or merchandising departments. “The other great superhero animated film, for me, is The ­Incredibles, and there’s been a cry for that for years and it looks like it may happen, but it really is the filmmaker (Brad Bird) that will drive that,” Conli says.

Conli even recalls being ­“pushed heavily” for a sequel to Tangled. “We pulled together the writers and directors and we said, ‘You know, she cut her hair. It’s over!’ Thank goodness there is a sense of propriety in that and they respect that.”
Source: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/arts/bi ... 7169452274

Re: Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:11 am
by PatrickvD
I'm sure the pressure for a Frozen sequel is even bigger now.

But I'm glad they had the sense to dismiss the possibility of a sequel instantly. The hair was cut, the end.

Re: Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:08 am
by DisneyFan09
To be honest, I wouldn't mind a sequel to "Tangled" as long as it was done properly. It's understandable why there was much pressure to do it, but at least they made "Tangled Ever After".

Either way, I do respect Roy Conli, he seems like a quite decent and dignified man.

Re: Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:52 pm
by Disney's Divinity
PatrickvD wrote: But I'm glad they had the sense to dismiss the possibility of a sequel instantly. The hair was cut, the end.
Well, there's always the possibility a sequel will be made 50 years from now when someone else is in charge...

Re: Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:09 pm
by PatrickvD
Disney's Divinity wrote:
PatrickvD wrote: But I'm glad they had the sense to dismiss the possibility of a sequel instantly. The hair was cut, the end.
Well, there's always the possibility a sequel will be made 50 years from now when someone else is in charge...
Luckily we'll all be dead by then. :)

Re: Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:57 pm
by Avaitor
PatrickvD wrote:
Disney's Divinity wrote:Well, there's always the possibility a sequel will be made 50 years from now when someone else is in charge...
Luckily we'll all be dead by then. :)
Um, I don't know how old you are, but I think I have a chance to make it to my 70's. :oops:

Re: Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:40 pm
by Super Aurora
Avaitor wrote:
PatrickvD wrote: Luckily we'll all be dead by then. :)
Um, I don't know how old you are, but I think I have a chance to make it to my 70's. :oops:

The only one who will be dead by then for sure is DVDJunkie

Re: Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:43 pm
by disneyprincess11
Spot the hyprocrosity:
He says there was no pressure to build a Big Hero 6 series. Under Lasseter, the decision on sequels always rests with the filmmaker, not the marketing or merchandising departments. “The other great superhero animated film, for me, is The ­Incredibles, and there’s been a cry for that for years and it looks like it may happen, but it really is the filmmaker (Brad Bird) that will drive that,” Conli says.

Conli even recalls being ­“pushed heavily” for a sequel to Tangled. “We pulled together the writers and directors and we said, ‘You know, she cut her hair. It’s over!’ Thank goodness there is a sense of propriety in that and they respect that.”
Source: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/arts/bi ... 7169452274[/quote]

Re: Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:11 pm
by Lady Cluck
If Tangled ever gets a sequel I will light myself on fire so thankfully I'll be dead either way :)

Re: Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:22 pm
by Kyle
disneyprincess11 wrote:Spot the hyprocrosity:
He says there was no pressure to build a Big Hero 6 series. Under Lasseter, the decision on sequels always rests with the filmmaker, not the marketing or merchandising departments. “The other great superhero animated film, for me, is The ­Incredibles, and there’s been a cry for that for years and it looks like it may happen, but it really is the filmmaker (Brad Bird) that will drive that,” Conli says.

Conli even recalls being ­“pushed heavily” for a sequel to Tangled. “We pulled together the writers and directors and we said, ‘You know, she cut her hair. It’s over!’ Thank goodness there is a sense of propriety in that and they respect that.”
Source: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/arts/bi ... 7169452274
While that first bolded line is probably not true its only hypocrisy if a sequel happens (against the film maker's wish). What John said still holds true so far, the film maker didn't want to do it despite any pressure, and so far that is not happening. And it doesn't say where the pressure was coming from either. That come be from the merch departments and/or fans.

Re: Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:55 am
by DisneyFan09
Lady Cluck wrote:If Tangled ever gets a sequel I will light myself on fire so thankfully I'll be dead either way :)
Jeez, a little too harsh, aren't we?

Re: Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:34 am
by Old Fish Tale
That's just Lady Cluck being Lady Cluck.

Re: Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:31 am
by Atlantica
I think there is a lot of potential to having animated shorts to the Classic films instead of automatically thinking sequel sequel sequel. It keeps the characters alive and fresh, and allows audiences to have another opportunity to connect with them. If all the original creators, voice actors etc returned I think its a brilliant idea, a la Tangled Ever After. Its just a question of knowing what to do with said characters in a short; I know Tangled Ever After basically expanded the original ending they were to have of Tangled, but the Toy Story ones are all original ideas. I would like to see another Tangled short as I want to see the characters in action again (though I did just have that with Sofia the First & Rapunzel). And it would be nice to have a short that maybe focused on the main characters rather than sidekicks ? I'm not 100% sure, but isn't Frozen Fever based on Olaf ? Or was that just a rumour ?

Either way, if good sequels aren't on the horizon then I'm happy with having shorts. Heck, I would have a bit of a collapse (in a good way!) if Ron & Jon said 'Hey, we ourselves would like to revisit the characters of Mermaid again in a fully animated short'. Can you imagine ?! I guess some could hate that, but to have Ron, John, Jodi & Alan all involved would be just :shock: I would so be there for that !