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Will there be any adults in this Story ?

And who will voice them ?

estefan wrote:I've never had a problem with the so-called "bean mouth" designs and I'm frankly a little tired of seeing it bandied about as a reason to dump on modern cartoon designs. Giving the lower part of their faces an oval shape is often a way to give characters, often children, more room to be expressive. And it's not a new trend, either, as it's been going on in children's comics for decades.

hey I said I still think the kids look cute...and maybe it will actually look better when translated to CGI. Im just sick of seeing this style everywhere for tv animation. Never been a fan of these sort of similar "faux retro" styles that started to become popular in the early 2000s(I think Powerpuff Girls may have started it), though I can see how they'd be easier to animate for a tv series. At least with the explosion of streaming services we're finally starting to see more variety now.

Sotiris wrote:I would say only Joe stands out. Other characters like Moonwind, Dorothea, Joe's protégé, etc. look like standard Pixar designs to me.

Well, yes they still look Pixar, but the body proportions are very different from what they've done in the past.

Sotiris wrote:Yes, it's possible, but some element of it must exist in the film in one form or another for there to be an "inspired by" book.

I guess you're right about that.

Sotiris wrote:I don't understand why they need to postpone the trailer. Just release it on the day Soul premieres on Disney+ or a couple of days later. What better way to advertise the next Pixar film, when people have finished watching the latest one and are wondering what Pixar will do next.

Exactly, it would be a perfect occasion to release it.

DisneyFan97 wrote:Will there be any adults in this Story ?

I suppose so. Apart from Luca and his friend, a couple of old ladies also appeared in the documentary and they showed up more than once, so I guess they could be more than background characters:


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIO_MtV1nJo


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-cLkYkm2D8

D82 wrote:Apart from Luca and his friend, a couple of old ladies also appeared in the documentary and they showed up more than once, so I guess they could be more than background characters.

Those are certainly unconventional (and somewhat unappealing) designs for the grumpy old ladies. The short one reminds me of Peter Griffin from Family Guy and Julia Wicket from Mr. Bean: The Animated Series. I think this movie features the most distinctive designs for a Pixar film since The Incredibles.

unprincess wrote:hey I said I still think the kids look cute...and maybe it will actually look better when translated to CGI. Im just sick of seeing this style everywhere for tv animation. Never been a fan of these sort of similar "faux retro" styles that started to become popular in the early 2000s(I think Powerpuff Girls may have started it), though I can see how they'd be easier to animate for a tv series. At least with the explosion of streaming services we're finally starting to see more variety now.

Yeah, sorry for the rant. It's just tiring at this point seeing these arguments against the way modern cartoons look, especially when it's attributed to a single school. Not that anyone here mentioned CalArts, but it is often blamed for current animation designs. Which is silly, because (a) there are several character designers and artists working in animation today who never went to CalArts, including "Luca" director Enrico Casarosa and (b) it's not like those artists walked into CalArts not knowing how to draw and then the school taught them all to draw the exact same way.

I do wonder how much of this comes from nostalgia for earlier cartoons (and ironically, artists who worked in tv animation in the '90s have mentioned getting the same "CalArts style" complaints about how shows on Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon looked at the time). And I get it. In the mid-to-late 2000s, I myself went through a phase of complaining about modern cartoons and how they looked and it's unfortunate I did. Because it meant I didn't get around to watching quality shows like "Avatar: The Last Airbender", "Teen Titans" and "Phineas and Ferb" until years later. And I probably misjudged cartoons like "Codename: Kids Next Door", "The Replacements", "The Mighty B!" and others that were on around that time and I should give them a fair shake one day.

As I've grown older, I've started to appreciate the modern look of animation and what amazing talent and creativity goes into them. There is so much quality animation out nowadays, made even moreso with the rise of streaming services. There's a reason my avatar on here is from a 2010s animated show.

Sorry for taking the "Luca" thread off course. Anyway, I think the designs for "Luca" look really cute and unique and I love that Casarosa and the character designers are drawing on European comics for inspiration.

I like the design of the taller woman anyway. The stout woman looks better in the picture all the way to the right versus the other two, whereas the taller woman looks like she didn't change much from picture to picture.

While I was looking at the first concept art released, I noticed there was something written on one of rocks at the bottom of the cliff. I wonder what's its significance.


Source: https://i.ibb.co/mzrDCQW/1368067085-cd27b.jpg

I think it's the artist's signature. At least the top part. According to director Enrico Casarosa, the artist who made that concept art is Daniel López Muñoz. I found his signature here and it matches with the one in the Luca artwork. I don't know what the "M & E" part is, though.

That first footage looks absolutely amazing and soooo vibrant! Just gorgeous, too bad we didn't get to see the trailer juuuuust yet. I'm guessing they'll attach it to Soul

robster16 wrote:That first footage looks absolutely amazing and soooo vibrant! Just gorgeous, too bad we didn't get to see the trailer juuuuust yet. I'm guessing they'll attach it to Soul

There is footage? Where? I couldn’t find it on Twitter.

UmbrellaFish wrote:

robster16 wrote:That first footage looks absolutely amazing and soooo vibrant! Just gorgeous, too bad we didn't get to see the trailer juuuuust yet. I'm guessing they'll attach it to Soul

There is footage? Where? I couldn’t find it on Twitter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AamlHWu3EFY

robster16 wrote:

UmbrellaFish wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AamlHWu3EFY

Thank you! It looks cute. I can’t wait for Disney and Pixar’s slate of animated films. I haven’t look forward so much to a year of animation in a long time.

UmbrellaFish wrote:I haven’t look forward so much to a year of animation in a long time.

Same for me. Domee Shi's film, Luca, and Raya all look like they'll be really great. Encanto could be, too, although I'm a little skeptical for now. Some movies turn out better than they look or sound.

EDIT:

robster16 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AamlHWu3EFY

Finally finished watching this. Alberto's face looks almost like Jimmy Neutron's at times. I like the little clues to him being a monster, like him swallowing the ice cream cone whole.

Some screenshots of the footage shown at the Investor Day presentation:

https://twitter.com/almanaquedisney/sta ... 5732783107
https://twitter.com/almanaquedisney/sta ... 4229566464

Disney's Divinity wrote:Finally finished watching this. Alberto's face looks almost like Jimmy Neutron's at times.

You're right. And unprincess was right about the shape of the mouths. Personally, they remind me of Aardman characters. The style for this film and Turning Red seems quite different from what Pixar had done until now. They don't look bad, but I'm not sure I like this new direction the studio seems to have taken.

By the way, I hadn't noticed Luca's friend's name had been revealed until I read your comment. I guess Bruno is the name Luca gives to the voice of doubt in his head after all as that book description said.

Pixar Post has uploaded the full Pixar presentation. Peter Docter talks about Luca at this point of it.

^ Who got to see the trailer?! Did stockholders receive a special link or something?! (I still get emails for the yearly stockholder meetings...in college I bought one share of stock but I can't find my paperwork...)

blackcauldron85 wrote:^ Who got to see the trailer?! Did stockholders receive a special link or something?! (I still get emails for the yearly stockholder meetings...in college I bought one share of stock but I can't find my paperwork...)

I don't remember where I read it, but yes, stockholders had a special link and only they could watch some of the trailers/sneak peeks. I wish one of them leaked this or the Encanto preview.

D82 wrote: You're right. And unprincess was right about the shape of the mouths. Personally, they remind me of Aardman characters. The style for this film and Turning Red seems quite different from what Pixar had done until now. They don't look bad, but I'm not sure I like this new direction the studio seems to have taken.

I definitely can see the Aardman similarity with Turning Red. I actually love Ghibli and Aardman much more than I ever did PIXAR, so I'm happy with these developments. I imagine long-term, hardcore PIXAR fans are probably more on-the-fence about all this.

Disney's Divinity wrote:I definitely can see the Aardman similarity with Turning Red. I actually love Ghibli and Aardman much more than I ever did PIXAR, so I'm happy with these developments. I imagine long-term, hardcore PIXAR fans are probably more on-the-fence about all this.

I wanted to clarify that I was referring only to the character designs and visual style. Luca and Alberto look almost like clay animation figures to me, especially their mouths and limbs. The main character in Turning Red too, at least her mouth in both her forms. I don't mind if it's only for one film, what worries me a little is that they might've decided to alter their house style a bit from now on either to have a more modern look or to differentiate themselves more from WDAS. I hope it's just a fad. Regarding other aspects like storytelling, I don't mind if they are a bit influenced by Aardman or Ghibli, since though generally with good results, they've been repeating the same formula a bit too much lately.

Disney's Divinity wrote:I like the little clues to him being a monster, like him swallowing the ice cream cone whole.

Nice catch. I hadn't noticed that. Though why would they just foreshadow Alberto being a sea monster when both of them are? Maybe it's because Alberto is aware he is one whereas Luca isn't.

D82 wrote:I guess Bruno is the name Luca gives to the voice of doubt in his head after all as that book description said.

Yes, that cleared things up.

D82 wrote:I wanted to clarify that I was referring only to the character designs and visual style. Luca and Alberto look almost like clay animation figures to me, especially their mouths and limbs.

I see your point. I would add that Alberto's hair texture is reminiscent of Aardman too. Still, there's something about the designs that remind me more of Western TV animation than Aardman or Ghibli.

D82 wrote:I don't mind if it's only for one film, what worries me a little is that they might've decided to alter their house style a bit from now on either to have a more modern look or to differentiate themselves more from WDAS. I hope it's just a fad.

Did you happen to notice how Pixar fans have received this new style? Were they more welcoming or more apprehensive of it?