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Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2014

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:11 am
by unprincess
I cant really comment on this topic as Im insanely broke right now and have only had the chance to watch HTTYD2. But if a DW film had to win Im glad it was this and not something from like the Madagascar or Shrek franchises.

Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2014

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:45 pm
by Avaitor
Holy hostility!

Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2014

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:36 am
by Lady Cluck
LMFAO! The Lego Movie was snubbed! (it did get in for Best Song)

Oscar nominees:

Big Hero 6
The Boxtrolls
How to Train Your Dragon 2
Song of the Sea
The Tale of Princess Kaguya

Has anyone seen Song of the Sea or The Tale of Princess Kaguya yet? The animation looks lovely for both.

Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2014

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:20 am
by disneyprincess11
Beyond angry and shocked that LEGO Movie didn't even get nominated for Best Animated Feature! At least, Everything is Awesome is nominated!

And for the first time, I'm mad that a Disney movie got nominated for Best Animated Feature. Big Hero 6 was good, but not good enough IMHO

Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2014

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:31 am
by Lady Cluck
Hoping Big Hero 6 can take down Dragon now that Lego is out of the running! It has more heart, more laughs, better visuals, better themes with real emotional depth, the best animated character of the year (Baymax), and it's not a sequel. Dragon will probably win though :roll: It'd be the worst winner since Happy Feet in 2006.

Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2014

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:13 am
by dvdjunkie
Totally ticked off that "Lego Movie" didn't get in the running for Best Animated Feature film for 2014. It would have won hands down because of it originality, heart, music and overall entertainment values.

Of the nominees, I'd really like to see "The Boxtrolls" win this category, but will be satisfied with whoever wins as long as it isn't those two foreign animated films.

Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2014

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:46 am
by Pasta67
dvdjunkie wrote:Of the nominees, I'd be satisfied with whoever wins as long as it isn't those two foreign animated films.
May I ask why?

Anyway, count me in among those who are baffled that The Lego Movie didn't even get nominated. I would have thought that was a given... It now occurs to me that I haven't seen a single one of the nominees. I've really been slacking off this past year!

Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2014

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:49 pm
by Tangled
Remember, the average age of Academy voters is above 60. Many of them are too old to grow up with Lego, so they probably wouldn't "get" what makes the Lego Movie so genius besides its faux-stop motion animation. Even then, most of them don't seem to know a lick about animation anyways.

I doubt Big Hero 6 would have made it either if it wasn't produced by Disney. Oscar voters don't typically like action films unless they're historical dramas (like How to Train Your Dragon sort of was).

Still, go Princess Kaguya! Critics agree, and I really think that the Academy really ought to throw Ghibli a bone considering the state of the company. Plus, hand-drawn animation.

Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2014

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:20 pm
by estefan
Tangled wrote:Remember, the average age of Academy voters is above 60. Many of them are too old to grow up with Lego, so they probably wouldn't "get" what makes the Lego Movie so genius besides its faux-stop motion animation. Even then, most of them don't seem to know a lick about animation anyways.
Except the nominations for the animation Oscars are voted on by animators (the Academy is divided into multiple branches, who decides the nominees in their respective categories and everyone chooses the best picture nominations).

The winner, however, is chosen by all 6000 or so voters. I think Dragon 2 will win, but if GKIDS tries to get enough voters to watch it, the possibility exists for Princess Kaguya to pull a Spirited Away-like victory.

Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2014

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:17 pm
by Lady Cluck
Ugh at the people who always complain about foreign animated films getting nominated without seeing them. :roll: I certainly wanted Frozen to beat The Wind Rises last year, which wasn't my favorite Miyazaki film by a longshot, but it deserved its nomination, and Song of the Sea and Kaguya both have better reviews than any of the other nominees AND look breathtakingly gorgeous.

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I can't wait to see them.

The Lego Movie was funny and creative and certainly belongs in the top 5 over How to Train Your Dragon 2 and The Boxtrolls (it's my second favorite animated film of the year that I've seen), but it was also very reliant on gimmicks and gags. It had a good message, but there probably wasn't enough story and too much pointless silliness for Oscar voters.

Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2014

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:47 pm
by DisneyJedi
I legit find Song of the Sea's nomination and Lego Movie's snub completely unfair because the former isn't even in theaters here in the US yet! :(

Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2014

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:36 pm
by estefan
Song of the Sea actually has opened in the US. It was released just before Christmas, albeit only in New York. It even made about $10,000 per screen on its opening weekend.

Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2014

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:53 pm
by DancingCrab
Lady Cluck wrote:Ugh at the people who always complain about foreign animated films getting nominated without seeing them.
Exactly. See the damn movies before you bitch about which is more deserving, people.

Also, look at it from this perspective...The Lego Movie doesn't need any more advertising, and that's really all the academy awards benefit their nominees. Both of these imported animated films will now be seen by a lot more people who would have never heard of them if not for these nominations. Both look gorgeously drawn, and I'm excited to see them.

I loved The Secret of Kells so much that I blindly pre-ordered the Song of the Sea blu-ray.

Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2014

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:06 pm
by taei
Even though I want Dragon 2 to win, I feel bad that the Lego Movie got snubbed.
Maybe it was because it had live action in it? Cause the Spongebob movie wasn't nominated too.

As for the foreign movies... I feel so bad because it's unfair. These movies have not come out in the US (wide release) and most voters probably have not seen them and will never see them..

I want to see if the academy still hates DWA. I definitely think that KFP 2 should have won over Rango years ago.

And IMHO, the biggest snub here is Powell's score for Dragon 2, which I thought was far superior than the first film.. And a lot of critics and people agreed on that. I know that it sounds like I love the movie, but seriously... The score needed to be nominated.

Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2014

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:10 pm
by Avaitor
Am I the only one who doesn't like The Lego Movie at all?

Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2014

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:58 pm
by taei
Avaitor wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't like The Lego Movie at all?
I.... Liked.... It... I think.
I didn't fall in love with it as much as people did. I watched, and got over it as soon as the movie ended.
Movie didn't stick with me at all, I didn't even buy it when it came out.

Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2014

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:16 am
by Semaj
taei wrote:Maybe it was because it had live action in it? Cause the Spongebob movie wasn't nominated too.
If you mean the second movie, it hasn't come out yet.

I don't think having live-action footage would disqualify a film getting a Best Animated Feature nomination (WALL-E used some live-action for their Buy-n-Large videos), as long as it can be clearly distinguished as an animated feature.

Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2014

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:33 am
by Lady Cluck
I liked The Lego Movie significantly less upon second viewing. I guess the novelty and gimmick wore off. I still like it, but it's not an all time favorite anymore.

But no one has to agree with the Academy. They get things wrong all the time. At the end of the day, TLM made more money than any other animated film last year which is what really matters in the business.

That doesn't change the fact that Lego Movie just doesn't have a very rich plot or complex characters to appeal to what the Academy usually likes. The plot is actually really silly, and heavily reliant on the plot twist to make any sense. The fact that this important plot twist was live action may have hurt it. It should have been nominated for creativity, humor, and mixing both through clever animation, but the story and characters just aren't that great. I couldn't be happier that it was snubbed after seeing the RIDICULOUS exaggerated reactions from people acting like it's better than it is and tearing down other films in the process, including ones they have no intention of ever seeing.


These trailers look so beautiful!!! :drool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgbXWt8kM5Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM6hcHp0_kU

Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2014

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:25 am
by Widdi
Very surprised to see The Lego Movie get snubbed. It is certainly not my favourite animated film of the year by any means, I would have loved to see Phil Lord get a nomination. Anyone who created Clone High deserves it. That show was amazing.

Anyways. I can see the academy going for the smaller foreign film this year, with Princess being the stronger pick, from a much more revered film maker.

If they do continue the mainstream picks, Dragon has it locked. Not only is it the best movie Dreamworks Animation has ever done, but it will be a good way of honoring the first movie that only lost because it had the misfortune of being released the same year as Toy Story 3. Had it come out in any other year since the Best Animated Film category was created it would have won the award (maybe not 2008, since Wall- E was just too good).

Boxtrolls is one probably the best looking Stop Motion movie I have ever seen, but its story is lacking. Big Hero 6 is good, but not great. Pretty much every winner in this category is a great film; Happy Feet aside (and Rango if you ask me, but everyone else loves that movie for whatever reason) but 2006 was a really weak year. I haven't seen Song of the Sea yet, and I doubt many voters have either which could hurt its chances.

So right now I'm thinking it is a two way race between The Tale of Princess Kaguya and How to Train Your Dragon 2, with Big Hero 6 as a potential dark horse if Disney still has a lot of good will left over from Frozen.

Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2014

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:47 am
by Disney's Divinity
I liked The Lego Movie moderately well. I don't necessarily see it as a snub. Either way, part of me is glad to see two hand-drawn animated films nominated. Who knows if that'll happen again for a decade or two.