I'm disappointed, Disney didn't cast someone with green skin for the voice acting!!!Warm Regards wrote:
Scamander wrote:I'm disappointed, Disney didn't cast someone with green skin for the voice acting!!!
That's actually offensive because you're trivializing the very real issue of racial representation (or lack thereof) in the media.Scamander wrote:I'm disappointed, Disney didn't cast someone with green skin for the voice acting!!!
I'm not going to comment on media as a whole, since that's a huge issue unto itself... I'll just acknowledge that it is a huge issue. And it's obviously not limited to race. (When are we getting a big-budget Marvel movie headlined by a woman? And there is the whole LGBT debate going on in the BH6 thread.)Sotiris wrote:That's actually offensive because you're trivializing the very real issue of racial representation (or lack thereof) in the media.Scamander wrote:I'm disappointed, Disney didn't cast someone with green skin for the voice acting!!!
Oh, I'm absolutely not, but we're at a point where people are complaining because a Japanese-American character (probably) won't be voiced by a Japanese-American actor or because of the lack of PoC in Frozen, which is both absolutely ridiculous. The whole industry is so frightened to offend anyone, that they often just throw in characters that represent different minorities everywhere, no matter if it makes sense or not. And that's not the solution. In order to fulfill the demand of racial representation the industry should just make more films with stories where said minorities fit in naturally. If you gonna complain because the Snow Queen in Disney's adaption of Andersens tale isn't black without bearing in mind that the story takes place in early modern Norway, you're not only not helping the case, you're hurting it and make a fool out of yourself.Sotiris wrote:That's actually offensive because you're trivializing the very real issue of racial representation (or lack thereof) in the media.Scamander wrote:I'm disappointed, Disney didn't cast someone with green skin for the voice acting!!!
I think they are though. There's plenty of criticism about that. It's not as if people who are upset about voice acting, don't care about the other forms of media representation or claim that voice acting is the most important.ce1ticmoon wrote:Well, I guess there is nothing wrong with that per se, but the problem is actually more deeply rooted, as they should be raging far before that.
Exactly. The vast gap in representation and the lack of equal opportunities is why people get frustrated when non-white or non-gay actors get the very few roles that people of color, LGBT etc could actually get. Even if that is something as (arguably) small as a voice acting role.ce1ticmoon wrote:First, the racial minority characters simply aren't being written into the movies. Second, people of racial minorities aren't usually being cast in the roles of existing white characters . If any and every one were able to play the white characters, then there would be no problem if a white person played a character representing a racial minority. [...] The problem is that Asians and other racial minorities simply have not received much representation in the first place. They also aren't getting cast in the white roles, or roles that aren't defined by race (monsters, aliens, toys, etc). The latter I think is especially problematic.
Well, I suppose you're right. Maybe I'm just hanging around here too much, because I seem to see a lot more of the former compared to the latter. And I can't say I'm on board with a lot of the rants that seem to come from tumblr, even if their hearts are in the right place.Sotiris wrote:I think they are though. There's plenty of criticism about that. It's not as if people who are upset about voice acting, don't care about the other forms of media representation or claim that voice acting is the most important.ce1ticmoon wrote:Well, I guess there is nothing wrong with that per se, but the problem is actually more deeply rooted, as they should be raging far before that.
Well, I certainly agree that at times, political correctness seems to get out of hand and borders on ridiculous. And some people seem to be going out of their way to find ways to be offended. I agree that a lot of the criticisms lobbied toward Frozen in particular were off base. (Though I don't think anyone was actually asking for a black Snow Queen.)Scamander wrote:Oh, I'm absolutely not, but we're at a point where people are complaining because a Japanese-American character (probably) won't be voiced by a Japanese-American actor or because of the lack of PoC in Frozen, which is both absolutely ridiculous. The whole industry is so frightened to offend anyone, that they often just throw in characters that represent different minorities everywhere, no matter if it makes sense or not. And that's not the solution. In order to fulfill the demand of racial representation the industry should just make more films with stories where said minorities fit in naturally. If you gonna complain because the Snow Queen in Disney's adaption of Andersens tale isn't black without bearing in mind that the story takes place in early modern Norway, you're not only not helping the case, you're hurting it and make a fool out of yourself.
I've never complained about lack of diversity in Frozen, so I'm not addressing that side of your issue when I say that being disappointed at a white person playing the rare Asian character that isn't, as you say, "forced" into the film for diversity's sake is absolutely not ridiculous. When do you think an Asian actor should actually get to play the role then? If they clearly aren't going to be cast as a white character and even get trumped in a role that actually is Asian by a white actor, then when? Playing the argument that a white person was obviously a better actor doesn't work when you consider that there are plenty of Asian actors who are perfectly capable.Scamander wrote:Oh, I'm absolutely not, but we're at a point where people are complaining because a Japanese-American character (probably) won't be voiced by a Japanese-American actor or because of the lack of PoC in Frozen, which is both absolutely ridiculous. The whole industry is so frightened to offend anyone, that they often just throw in characters that represent different minorities everywhere, no matter if it makes sense or not. And that's not the solution. In order to fulfill the demand of racial representation the industry should just make more films with stories where said minorities fit in naturally. If you gonna complain because the Snow Queen in Disney's adaption of Andersens tale isn't black without bearing in mind that the story takes place in early modern Norway, you're not only not helping the case, you're hurting it and make a fool out of yourself.Sotiris wrote: That's actually offensive because you're trivializing the very real issue of racial representation (or lack thereof) in the media.
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/06/11/p ... t-details/Show of hands: Who else is really excited about Inside Out?
Until now, Pixar has been tight-lipped about its upcoming film, which takes place entirely inside an 11-year-old girl’s brain. But at the Annecy International Animated Film Festival in France yesterday, Variety reports that Inside Out director Pete Docter both showed the opening of the film and outlined his vision for the whole movie.
“It’s based on a strong emotional experience I had watching my daughter grow up,” said the Up director — who, per Variety, noted that much of his daughter’s childhood joy disappeared when she turned 12. “There is something that is lost when you grow up — and the film became a way to explore that change on an emotional level.”
Source: http://www.rotoscopers.com/2014/06/22/p ... nside-out/During the event director Pete Doctor and producer Jonas Rivera presented some clips to the audience and some great new information on what is going to happen in the movie and some further explanation on how the mind works in this film.
The first clip that was shown also is the opening scene of the film, it showed the birth of Riley and her first emotion Joy voiced by Amy Poehler. Baby Riley begins to cry and were introduced to Sadness, another one of Riley’s emotion voiced by Phyllis Smith. We meet the rest of the cast and learn their importance: Anger (Lewis Black) keeps things fair, Disgust (Mindy Kaling) avoids bad things and Fear (Bill Hader) keeps Riley safe.
Producer Jonas Rivera explained that the headquarters is a combination of It’s a Small World and the Apple Store. Only one emotion can control Riley at a time and as memories are processed, they appear as light balls, colored to whatever emotion was in control at the time the memory was made. Stored on a short-term memory wall, the balls are brighter the more powerful the memory.
On one side of the controls is a very precious box in which Riley’s core memories are stored: the single most important moments that define who she is. At the end of the night, the rest of the memories are sent away to long-term, but the core ones stick around, always on the ready.
The clip continues and each emotion is showing off his or her special skills. Disgust warns baby Riley away from broccoli, “It’s green and it’s not shaped like a dinosaur!” Disgust exclaims. Riley is told by her parents that she won’t get dessert if she doesn’t eat her broccoli, which launches Anger into action he’s holding a newspaper with the headline “No Dessert!”
At one point in the movie, Joy and Sadness get lost inside Riley’s mind and they visit Imagination Land. Joy is disinherited to see that attractions like a fairy tale castle have fallen to disarray and are being torn down in place of new ones like The Imaginary Boyfriend Generator and the Swear Word Library. During the event a piece of concept art was shown which offered a look at where dreams are made: A movie studio with poster attractions on the outside wall with titles like like, “You’re Falling Into a Hole!”
Joy and Sadness are able to travel thanks to a Train of Thought, which generates tracks as it moves forward. Unfortunately, though, the train is easily lost and tends to generate tracks in the wrong direction. This, at one point, leads to Joy and Sadness winding up in abstract though a world that looks to be Pixar’s Picasso.
The concept art below shows how Riley’s emotions guide her. You can see Joy operating a control panel that accesses Riley’s memories and real-time interactions throughout her day. It’s called Head-quarters. The film will switch back and forth from the “inside” perspective of her emotions and what it looks like when Riley acts them “out.” The juxtaposition of this is hilarious and heartwarming.
Growing up can be a bumpy road, and it’s no exception for Riley, who is uprooted from her Midwest life when her father starts a new job in San Francisco. Like all of us, Riley is guided by her emotions – Joy (Amy Poehler), Fear (Bill Hader), Anger (Lewis Black), Disgust (Mindy Kaling) and Sadness (Phyllis Smith). The emotions live in Headquarters, the control center inside Riley’s mind, where they help advise her through everyday life. As Riley and her emotions struggle to adjust to a new life in San Francisco, turmoil ensues in Headquarters. Although Joy, Riley’s main and most important emotion, tries to keep things positive, the emotions conflict on how best to navigate a new city, house and school.
