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Personally, there's nothing stopping me from thinking this "Disney Rep" is a joke. Where's the proof he actually works at Disney?

ajmrowland wrote:Personally, there's nothing stopping me from thinking this "Disney Rep" is a joke. Where's the proof he actually works at Disney?

Don't worry. He/she is the real deal. I believe Luke commented awhile back that this person actually works for Disney and registered with a Disney email account.

Personally, I doubt I'll see this film. It doesn't really look that interesting to me (I doubt it's even targeted to me).

Hi! I'm sorry if I offended anyone on here - that's definitely not something I wanted to do. I really am on here on behalf of Disney....What our biggest fans have to say is important to us. As I mentioned before, we want all our movies to do well, but maybe not all of them appeal to everybody. The movie comes out next week, and I think that maybe moms and their kids would love to see it. For anyone else that's not too crazy about motion-capture, maybe we can look forward to Cars 2, African Cats, Pirates of the Caribbean or Prom?

WaltDisneyPictures wrote:Hi! I'm sorry if I offended anyone on here - that's definitely not something I wanted to do. I really am on here on behalf of Disney....What our biggest fans have to say is important to us. As I mentioned before, we want all our movies to do well, but maybe not all of them appeal to everybody. The movie comes out next week, and I think that maybe moms and their kids would love to see it. For anyone else that's not too crazy about motion-capture, maybe we can look forward to Cars 2, African Cats, Pirates of the Caribbean or Prom?

I'm looking forward for African Cats. As I like cats.

Only think that might make me consider seeing Mars need mom is looking at the sci-fi background environment and gadgets. That's probably about it. Not too thrill about the characters or story concept.

WaltDisneyPictures wrote:Hi! I'm sorry if I offended anyone on here - that's definitely not something I wanted to do. I really am on here on behalf of Disney....What our biggest fans have to say is important to us. As I mentioned before, we want all our movies to do well, but maybe not all of them appeal to everybody. The movie comes out next week, and I think that maybe moms and their kids would love to see it. For anyone else that's not too crazy about motion-capture, maybe we can look forward to Cars 2, African Cats, Pirates of the Caribbean or Prom?

Prom is a movie I don't want to see yet my girlfriend is going to force me to take her because she likes seeing me miserable or if there's or film I don't like she will like it automatically espically some Disney Films over others. Prom is going to be one them...I'm sure i'll moderatley enjoy Prom but it just feels like High School Musical...which grew on me but I am looking forward to Mars Needs Moms....the motion capture doesn't excite me but I'll go see it anyway....I just think it's more cost productive if Mars needs Moms were just traditional CGI...the Martians in the trailers look much better than the humans in my opinion

WaltDisneyPictures wrote:Ouch! We want ALL our movies to do well. I still maintain that this will be good family movie, and moms especially will like the message that it gives. What do you think we should show (or not show) to make you feel better about the movie?

I've this a bit of thought and not really sure if this is a good answer:

Anyway, I think what a lot of marketing is missing is showing that a film has heart and meaning. Maybe showing less goofy moments and more serious ones. So far the main character has gone from being on Earth to being on Mars, but hasn't shown any other progress, other than moments where he needs to escape. You may need more footage to show that it is going to progress past that, but of course not too much to give away the movie.

Hope this advice isn't the opposite of what it should be. I have wondered if Disney had released the Japanese Tangled/Rapunzel trailer in the USA, whether it would have performed even better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TM-p9scgKo

WaltDisneyPictures wrote:What our biggest fans have to say is important to us.

Tell this to Disney heads:

At least try to make quality films that'll sell well. You guys did a good job with Tangled, so why do you keep pushing out crap like Mars Needs Moms or Prom? No one asked for those films...no one. It's time for Disney to shift a focus on more consistent quality. It's pretty bad when most of your lineup are consistently critical flops, just sayin'. The Disney image is in ruin and it'll be soon enough when soccer moms realize that Hannah Montana is irrelevant and unfunny.

MARS NEEDS MOMS "No Broccoli" Clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrViquF2nug


What's with moms and broccoli? This gag is all over pop culture. Seriously, if your kid doesn't like broccoli there are plenty of other healthy and tastier vegetables. It's like they don't even know that other vegetables exist besides broccoli.

TheSequelOfDisney wrote:

Neal wrote:I'm just trying to figure out what the heck the mom has on her head - that is a very odd hat!

I think it's a bandana, at least it looks like it to me. I don't really know much about this project, but it certainly looks interesting (to say the least).

To me it looks like some kind of crown.

Sotiris wrote:What's with moms and broccoli? This gag is all over pop culture. Seriously, if your kid doesn't like broccoli there are plenty of other healthy and tastier vegetables. It's like they don't even know that other vegetables exist besides broccoli.

I think its because broccoli is a common vegetable among many dishes, and depending on how it is cooked, it can either have a bland taste or have a bad one, hence why kids tend to avoid it. Add that the universal hate towards vegetable and you get comedic gold.

Going back to the movie, though... The more I think about this, the more I am repulsed by it.

See, I don't mind mocap films as much as the rest of the fandom and the industry in general. But, if you are going to spend so much money trying to be as realistic as possible why not do it in live action and save a couple of bucks? I could understand it if the film had a surreal or lively art style, like Monster House and A Christmas Carol. But Mars Needs Mom is trying to be hyper realistic in everything from body language to facial expressions.

Again, why?

Not talking about the quality of the film itself, mind you. It could be good or it could be bad. I am mainly referring to the look of the film which, again, wants to be realistic in a setting that is about surreality and science fiction.

Weird...

Another thing that gets me about mo-cap is that almost very time the actor that performs the mo-cap looks exactly like its animated counterpart. Can't they make the animated characters look different from the actors that performed their mo-cap?

Sotiris wrote:Another thing that gets me about mo-cap is that almost very time the actor that performs the mo-cap looks exactly like its animated counterpart. Can't they make the animated characters look different from the actors that performed their mo-cap?

EXACTLY MY POINT

I mean, that sounds redundant. If they are just playing themselves why go through the mocap process?

It is likely because they want to show off how good they can capture the likeness of a person in digital form. But I think its far more impressive when you can grab an actor, and make his digital self COMPLETELY different from him.

I would certainly be giddy if me, a tall and chubby guy, is turned into a behemoth rampaging a city.

Sotiris wrote:Another thing that gets me about mo-cap is that almost very time the actor that performs the mo-cap looks exactly like its animated counterpart. Can't they make the animated characters look different from the actors that performed their mo-cap?

Excellent point. If you're going to do it, why not make it in live-action? Steven Spielberg is going for the approach you're suggesting in the upcoming adaptation of Tintin.

Simon Pegg and Nick Frost look nothing alike and are completely different weights, but Spielberg is using the motion capture to make their characters look like Thomson and Thompson, two identical-looking detectives. Jamie Bell was also be made to look like Tintin and Andy Serkis as Captain Haddock. He's using the technology to have the actors look exactly like the Herge designs and in addition to it being done by the same visual effects studio who worked on Avatar, is part of the reason I don't think it will suffer from Un-Canny Valley, unlike the Zemeckis productions.

Mars Needs Moms would look better with similar colors and non-realistic animations. Disney, you have Pixar in your grasp! Learn from the goddamn masters.



Toy Story - 1993



Mars Needs Moms - 2011

Hopefully, this (as well as PROM and other horrormovies from Disney) will bomb at the boxoffice.

Hopefully it will teach Disney a lesson: Stop making crap and think that people will watch it because of the Disney name and marketing.

Disney marketing need to change, so does Disney's focus - making quality films must be important again. Stop making all that forgettable stuff that no one really care about, and start making quality that people will enjoy for years.

That would be good for Disney's public image and for the Disney brand in the long run, and it will secure Disney income and success. One should think this would be logical also for the heads at Disney, but oooh no!...

This kinda pop up in my head after rereading the title and thinking about it. The title says "Mars Needs Moms"

What, they don't need dads though?

Are the aliens collecting "moms" in order to create some giant female lesbian orgy fest to satisfy themselves? Is their God Xenu who they are creating this festival for?

Maybe that's why this movie is evil. It was made in the minds for Scientology demograph.

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Reviews are mixed so far
"Enhanced by nimble ad-libbing from the comedy-trained cast, the screenplay is delightful, by turns funny and emotional..."
Entertainment Weekly

"One tries to make sense of it this way and that and then leaves half admiring its outré visions of maternal care and coldness, half wishing its metaphorical swagger had either busted the story open or gotten out of its way."
Movieline

"Though light enough in tone, packed with good messages and delivering a couple of lovely, touching moments, "Mars" still has that plastic look that made you wish you were seeing the REAL Tom Hanks in "Polar Express"..."
Orlando Sentinel

"Working against an ungainly title and a rather formulaic marketing campaign, pic is a modestly enjoyable performance-capture creation bearing the unmistakable imprint of producer Robert Zemeckis."
Variety

"Superlative craftsmanship but only the earthbound segment is truly intriguing."
Modamag.com

"Based on a children's book by cartoonist Berkeley Breathed (known for his "Bloom County" comic strip), "Mars Needs Moms" is a tone-deaf animated disaster."
ColeSmithey.com

"The skill level of this motion capture animation is getting better all the time. So Mars is accomplished at every level. But the three most important things in movies are story, story, story."
Hollywood Reporter

"With originality an alien concept, the film proves to be the equivalent of sci-fi-cinema training wheels."
Village Voice

"Feels like an amalgamation of other animated films' styles and storylines, assembled by a marketing department bent on hitting a demographic sweet spot rather than artists following their muse."
Sarasota Herald-Tribune

"Mars Needs Moms is so rambunctious that it snuffs out much of the story's potential charm and pathos."
Screen International

Seth Green, Digitally and Sonically Erased From 'Mars Needs Moms

http://blog.movies.yahoo.com/blog/851-s ... ds-moms?nc[/u]

disneyboy20022 wrote:Seth Green, Digitally and Sonically Erased From 'Mars Needs Moms

http://blog.movies.yahoo.com/blog/851-s ... ds-moms?nc[/u]

That was a really interesting article. I wonder why Seth is still shilling for the movie. Maybe it was a mutual decision or something....