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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:02 pm
by Goliath
ajmrowland wrote:I see where your coming from. I don't want to be constantly on the defense of a format from people who don't know enough about it to even be in a fight. I'm just here to talk about the movies I love, and that's how it should be. So what if someone says they're picking the movie up on blu-ray or DVD? It's the same film with most of the bonuses in common, so what's to complain about? The Pixar releases?
I (and others) complain about BluRay 'fans' who constantly clutter threads with comments rejecting the DVD versions of certain films; insist BluRay is the one and only format worth watching; insult other people by saying they don't care for films because they don't own a BD-player; insult others by saying they are misinformed/don't know enough about Blueray to have an opinion on it etc.

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:11 pm
by ajmrowland
Goliath wrote:
ajmrowland wrote:I see where your coming from. I don't want to be constantly on the defense of a format from people who don't know enough about it to even be in a fight. I'm just here to talk about the movies I love, and that's how it should be. So what if someone says they're picking the movie up on blu-ray or DVD? It's the same film with most of the bonuses in common, so what's to complain about? The Pixar releases?
I (and others) complain about BluRay 'fans' who constantly clutter threads with comments rejecting the DVD versions of certain films; insist BluRay is the one and only format worth watching; insult other people by saying they don't care for films because they don't own a BD-player; insult others by saying they are misinformed/don't know enough about Blueray to have an opinion on it etc.
Okay, my bad. I can think of many films that need an upgrade, though. I just watched a Bugs' Life and was surprised at how pixelated the old DVD is. The sacrifice that comes with having two encodes on the same disc.

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:26 pm
by Chernabog_Rocks
KubrickFan wrote:
I get defensive, because he's not just a reviewer. And because you use the same sarcastic smilies over and over. It gets annoying.
Well, I've never heard of him until now so to me he is just another reviewer who's apparently well respected. Also I'll roll my sarcastic eyes as much as I want and if I get dizzy from doing it that's my problem :lol: Besides, Junkie used to have the eyeroll at the bottom of many of his posts so I'm not the only one who's apparently used it over and over as well.

(Not trying to single you out in a negative way Junkie, but you were the first person to come to mind as a comparison :) )

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:34 pm
by CampbellzSoup
The Blu Ray is only 21 dollars at Toys R Us this week guys!

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:51 pm
by ajmrowland
CampbellzSoup wrote:The Blu Ray is only 21 dollars at Toys R Us this week guys!
Not on the website, though. I think I'll stick with the Best Buy offer of a $26 price with a free cup!

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:53 pm
by CampbellzSoup
ajmrowland wrote:
CampbellzSoup wrote:The Blu Ray is only 21 dollars at Toys R Us this week guys!
Not on the website, though. I think I'll stick with the Best Buy offer of a $26 price with a free cup!
I have the ad from the paper right here on my desk, it says Blu Ray 21.99 and you get a cup.

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:55 pm
by ajmrowland
CampbellzSoup wrote: I have the ad from the paper right here on my desk, it says Blu Ray 21.99 and you get a cup.
Maybe I'll take a look at that. Either way, I'm getting a good deal! :)

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:35 pm
by lighthousemike
ajmrowland wrote:
CampbellzSoup wrote:The Blu Ray is only 21 dollars at Toys R Us this week guys!
Not on the website, though. I think I'll stick with the Best Buy offer of a $26 price with a free cup!
just so youd know in store price and online price arent the same.

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:23 pm
by wallymatters
You idiotic people who don't see the obvious and oftentimes very dramatic PQ and AQ improvements in blu-ray compared to SD DVD...you should be embarrassed. Just because you can't afford the appropriate equipment is no excuse for being uninformed as well.

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:46 pm
by disneyboy20022
wallymatters wrote:You idiotic people who don't see the obvious and oftentimes very dramatic PQ and AQ improvements in blu-ray compared to SD DVD...you should be embarrassed. Just because you can't afford the appropriate equipment is no excuse for being uninformed as well.
Okay....not to start a war here....but

Is it just me or does calling people on the forums iditotic....scream to me as rule breaking in the code of conduct?

Can't wait for Tuesday...its my Birthday and Pinocchio Comes to DVD and Blu ray 8)

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:05 pm
by wallymatters
disneyboy20022 wrote:Okay....not to start a war here....but

Is it just me or does calling people on the forums iditotic....scream to me as rule breaking in the code of conduct?

Can't wait for Tuesday...its my Birthday and Pinocchio Comes to DVD and Blu ray 8)
I'm not concerned since it is my entire reason for coming here.

I especially like the fool who wrote the review for the website. Haha...in a review about the Pinocchio DVD...the ant-BD rant was longer than the review of the film and DVD. An obvious agenda and a complete lack of accurate information. What a joke...

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:07 pm
by SpringHeelJack
Uh-oh! Someone needs a nap.

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:52 pm
by disneyboy20022
wallymatters wrote: I'm not concerned since it is my entire reason for coming here.

I especially like the fool who wrote the review for the website. Haha...in a review about the Pinocchio DVD...the ant-BD rant was longer than the review of the film and DVD. An obvious agenda and a complete lack of accurate information. What a joke...
So you came and signed up for a forum just to cause trouble?? :lol:

And again with the personal attacks...calling the Site Admin Luke a fool? I mean didn't you get what he was saying....Disney Sent all the sites a Blu ray to review and didn't ask or clue them in to what they would be getting....I mean they didn't even just give an option.....So I would be pretty upset with the company if they said they were sending me a dvd but instead send a Blu ray...Disney didn't let the Site Admin reviewer Luke in this case any warning that it would be a Blu ray and they wouldn't be sending a DVD.....

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:06 pm
by Rudy Matt
So, who's picking up Pinocchio tomorrow?

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:44 pm
by wallymatters
disneyboy20022 wrote: So you came and signed up for a forum just to cause trouble?? :lol:

And again with the personal attacks...calling the Site Admin Luke a fool? I mean didn't you get what he was saying....Disney Sent all the sites a Blu ray to review and didn't ask or clue them in to what they would be getting....I mean they didn't even just give an option.....So I would be pretty upset with the company if they said they were sending me a dvd but instead send a Blu ray...Disney didn't let the Site Admin reviewer Luke in this case any warning that it would be a Blu ray and they wouldn't be sending a DVD.....
...and? It's one thing for a general member here to not upgrade, but a site admin who is reviewing copies? It's an excuse and a poor one at that. That review was downright silly. I would encourage Luke to join the discussion over at AVS with folks who actually know what they are talking about. The blu-ray release came with the only DVD needed for a review of the film itself. Instead, he created an opportunity to bash something he has no knowledge of.

All of the Disney BD releases have had vastly superior PQ and AQ to their DVD counterparts. Those who have chosen not to upgrade or have been unable to upgrade to the proper HT equipment seem...bitter.

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:57 am
by David S.
I originally wasn't going to reply to this, or was going to say something sarcastic, but... I'll try to be diplomatic.
wallymatters wrote:
The blu-ray release came with the only DVD needed for a review of the film itself.
UD reviews have always been meticulously thorough in their review of the bonus features, which would not have been possible to do with just Disc 1. Therefore, his comments were perfectly valid.
Those who have chosen not to upgrade or have been unable to upgrade to the proper HT equipment seem...bitter.
"Proper HT equipment"? You mean like 100 dollar cables?

No thanks, I'd rather spend that money on more DVDs and CDs, or trips to various locations, or any number of hobbies I have.

Not everyone has the same approach to watching movies. Personally, I watch movies for the emotional journey they take me on, not to obsessively scrutinize the transfer looking for detail and flaws. And "High def" is not going to make the jokes funnier or the touching scenes more touching.

If the more technical approach is more what you are into, more power to you, but I'm happy with my current setup. All that matters is, my DVDs look and sound good TO ME on MY television.

The bottom line is, I CAN afford all that high-end, elite techie equipment, and CHOOSE not to buy it. Therefore, I am not "bitter" that I don't have it.

Speaking of "bitter", it sure seems like a lot of the techie crowd is bitter that there are those of us who are happy enough with DVD that we feel no compulsion to get Blu-Ray. Why does it bother you so much what Luke wrote? To the point where you signed up for this forum (by your own admission) just to complain about it and make personal attacks against Luke and forum members? Why do you care what he, or anyone else, chooses to buy or not buy?

Live and let live, man.

Speaking frankly, a lot of you are coming across as a bunch of snobs.

Note - I am not attempting to speak here for anyone else who is satisfied with DVD, these are just my thoughts.

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:39 am
by CampbellzSoup
...what 100 dollar cables?

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:51 am
by David S.
I've seen cables advertised in a Best Buy circular being touted as "necessary in order to get the full benefit of viewing Blu-Ray on a Hi-Def 1080 display". They cost 129 dollars, with a longer version listed as 149. I'm sure the hard-core techno-equipment crowd knows how to get a better deal on these type of cables, but my point stands that it is possible for people like me to enjoy my movies without having to have all the "latest and greatest" high tech equipment.

For those into that scene, good for them. But it's silly for any of them to turn their nose up at those of us who aren't.

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:08 am
by Rudy Matt
David S. wrote:I've seen cables advertised in a Best Buy circular being touted as "necessary in order to get the full benefit of viewing Blu-Ray on a Hi-Def 1080 display". They cost 129 dollars, with a longer version listed as 149. I'm sure the hard-core techno-equipment crowd knows how to get a better deal on these type of cables, but my point stands that it is possible for people like me to enjoy my movies without having to have all the "latest and greatest" high tech equipment.

For those into that scene, good for them. But it's silly for any of them to turn their nose up at those of us who aren't.
I spent $18 on my HDMI cable.

So, anyway, who's picking up Pinocchio tonight?

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:39 am
by KubrickFan
Wait, so almost everyone in this argument hasn't even seen the new Pinocchio Blu-Ray/DVD, apart from some screenshots? Then how can you tell if it is better or not?