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Posted: **Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:47 pm**

I wonder how Charming will avoid dying from the poison he ran into. I hope he does survive

Also it seems Henry might turn against Emma and side with Pan. This should be interesting

Posted: **Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:58 pm**

Breathe and read the whole article and don't pass out

Marilyn Manson Joining 'Once Upon a Time' Cast

Once Upon a Time's journey into the dark recesses of Neverland has gotten pretty scary already, what with an evil Peter Pan running around. Now it's about to get a whole lot creepier: ABC has confirmed exclusively to Rolling Stone that rocker Marilyn Manson will be joining the cast of the show in November. Manson will voice Shadow, a character whose voice will give life to the very essence of Neverland.

"We've always been enormous fans of Marilyn Manson," show creators and executive producers Eddy Kitsis and Adam Horowitz told Rolling Stone. "We wanted to cast someone with the vocal ability to make our skin crawl."

This season on Once Upon a Time follows Emma, Rumpelstiltskin, Regina, Captain Hook and the rest of the Fairytale Avengers in Neverland as they look for Henry while battling the evil Peter Pan. The Shadow has appeared a few times already this season, and he's not quite the mischievous, fun-loving character who appeared in the classic Peter Pan tales. This version of Shadow is more interested in kidnapping and soul-stealing – and with Manson's voice added to the mix, he should become a skin-crawling part of Neverland.

Manson's most recent album, Born Villain, was released last year.

I don't think I have words to describe what I'm feeling, because my mind can't decide what to think and stay thinking............ I'm at a loss for words here......

Posted: **Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:46 am**

Never would've expected that...

But it's not necessarily a bad choice, I guess.

Posted: **Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:35 pm**

Disney's Divinity wrote:Never would've expected that... But it's not necessarily a bad choice, I guess.

I don't think it's a bad thing. However when I just read the headline by itself, I was hesitant. I'm okay with him voicing, I would have found it to be even more odd that he would physically been in the series.

Posted: **Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:27 pm**

Does Disney have plans on doing merchandise out of the series?

Posted: **Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:07 pm**

I actually didn't approve of what Neal did to his Rumple I thought he was actually going to change. Sadly, he's just like his father and for that he may have brought Rumple's dark side again and created his undoing. I think he'll regret tricking his father like that

Also is Belle a figment of his imagination?

Posted: **Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:18 pm**

DC Fan wrote:Does Disney have plans on doing merchandise out of the series?

Do they do merchandise for many ABC shows?

Posted: **Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:22 pm**

disneyboy20022 wrote:I actually didn't approve of what Neal did to his Rumple I thought he was actually going to change. Sadly, he's just like his father and for that he may have brought Rumple's dark side again and created his undoing. I think he'll regret tricking his father like that

Also is Belle a figment of his imagination?

Oh, the sweet sweet irony if that is the case. I didn't think more or less of it than any character arc that magically appears to suit the episode. It doesn't help that the first thing he sees of rumple is himself being attacked.

And Belle is a figment of Rumple's imagination

Posted: **Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:24 pm**

ajmrowland wrote:
DC Fan wrote:Does Disney have plans on doing merchandise out of the series?
Do they do merchandise for many ABC shows?

Here's Merchandise from the ABC Store Website

http://www.cafepress.com/onceuponatime

And here is the main ABC Store where you can pick your favorite show on the left and it displays some merchandise from Marvel's Agents of Shield to General Hospital and many others

http://abctvstore.cafepress.com/

EDIT. Your Spoiler is showing. Might want to adjust that.

Posted: **Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:30 pm**

disneyboy20022 wrote:
ajmrowland wrote: Do they do merchandise for many ABC shows?
Here's Merchandise from the ABC Store Website

http://www.cafepress.com/onceuponatime

And here is the main ABC Store where you can pick your favorite show on the left and it displays some merchandise from Marvel's Agents of Shield to General Hospital and many others

http://abctvstore.cafepress.com/

EDIT. Your Spoiler is showing. Might want to adjust that.

Oooooooo......looks good!

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:25 am**

Thank you.

However, I should have been more specific. I was talking about dolls and different kind of stuff.

...not just mugs and t-shirts (by the way, they should have much more variety anyways).

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:43 am**

Guys, need your help.

After Mulan´s reaction when she was about to confess to Aurora...there´s this debate on a forum of mine, saying that in fact, Mulan fell in love with Aurora.

However, I replied that: Even though this series is targeted towards adults using freely the Disney characters in the end THEY ARE DISNEY CHARACTERS ON A DISNEY CHANNEL. As such, Disney won´t allow to use their characters on a "polemic" position.

...Not to mention that Mulan has Li Shang.

What do you think?

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:58 am**

When some of the 'Swan Queen' shippers got upset when Jennifer Morrison said 'Absolutely not' to the prospect of Regina and Emma having a relationship in that way, Adam and Eddy said that may be in the future for some of the characters from Once, just not those two.

Take from that what you will.

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:25 am**

But, do you really think Disney will allow that with these characters?

Especially their beloved Disney Princess line?

Personally, that would upset me. Not that I have anything against gays, lesbians and bis? But because the characters don´t have these tendencies (the same way if they were to portray in another media Batwoman as straight I wouldn´t go for it). But also, because it´s REALLY lame that Mulan happened to be the one who´s lesbian. Too cliché. Go for the warrior ("manly") type and no just a regular woman.

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:13 am**

I think you have to separate this from the Disney Canon.

'Once' is based on Fairytales; it just so happens that ABC, a Disney production company, is making the show. Therefore they can take costume inspirations, locations, and especially names of these iconic characters and make them work for the show. It isn't directly linked into the Disney Animated Classics.

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:43 am**

I know that.

But in the end they´re still based on the Disney characters.

Didn´t Silvermist just appeared on Once Upon a Time in Wonderland? Silvermist: an entire Disney creation.

Plus, as much as these series are targeted at adults there have to be children that watch them with their parents; heck! Even Lana Parrilla that she does so in her house.

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:08 pm**

The writing on this show is so inconsistent within it's own world, that it's little more than a fantasy soap opera. So in the end, who really cares, because there is nothing wrong with making THIS Mulan bisexual or lesbian. They are clearly only inspired by, and not representatives of their animated counterparts.

And what does children watching this have to do with anything? Are you afraid little girls are going to be scarred by seeing a woman confess her love to another woman? If children are watching Once Upon A Time, they are already seeing a lot more mature content than that.

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:07 pm**

I'm confused, did Mulan love Phillip or was she going to confess her love to Aurora? I'm so confused.

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:40 pm**

She is quite clearly a lesbian. Suggesting that this is inappropriate for a children's show is DISGUSTING, especially when Once Upon a Time already has plenty of "adult" themes. This is 2013.

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:20 pm**

I think we have to see more of their relationship to come to any concrete conclusions anyway; we haven't seen them for a HUGE chunk of time, so there will be some backstory there.

As far as we are concerned, the last time we were shown anything to do with Mulan's affections, they were aimed at Phillip.

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