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Wow----this was good.

The message was very clear from the beginning from Judy and Nick's stories to the strikes The message was done so powerful. I got emotional at Judy's blunder in her police conference that triggered Nick, along with baby Nick's backstory. I thought the villain was done very well. Not the best Disney villain, but still made sense with the message.

Judy was by far my favorite, I relate to her a lot with my ambitiousness and positivity and the overprotecting parents who talked to her out of her dreams and wanting her to get a safer spot. I didn't honestly see Rapunzel/Anna that much. I see her own personality about trying to change the world. I liked Nick overall. But, I didn't find him interesting at first. I think it was because I saw too much Flynn Rider in him, especially at the nude party. After the backstory, he then got more round and developed from that point on, especially with his breakdown. All the other characters were great. I wish we saw more of Finn. I thought he was hilarious.

I think this could honestly beat Dory and Moana for Best Animated Feature. An unexpected treasure with a powerful message

disneyprincess11 wrote:Wow----this was good.

The message was very clear from the beginning from Judy and Nick's stories to the strikes The message was done so powerful. I got emotional at Judy's blunder in her police conference that triggered Nick, along with baby Nick's backstory. I thought the villain was done very well. Not the best Disney villain, but still made sense with the message.

Judy was by far my favorite, I relate to her a lot with my ambitiousness and positivity and the overprotecting parents who talked to her out of her dreams and wanting her to get a safer spot. I didn't honestly see Rapunzel/Anna that much. I see her own personality about trying to change the world. I liked Nick overall. But, I didn't find him interesting at first. I think it was because I saw too much Flynn Rider in him, especially at the nude party. After the backstory, he then got more round and developed from that point on, especially with his breakdown. All the other characters were great. I wish we saw more of Finn. I thought he was hilarious.

I think this could honestly beat Dory and Moana for Best Animated Feature. An unexpected treasure with a powerful message

I do notice that this year, Pixar and Disney are handing all female main protagonists in their movies. I mean first there is Judy Hopps, Dory, and lastly Moana. And all three of them have no romantic subplot story at all.

Well, I just saw it. Wow. This was so finely crafted. Everything: the world, the characters, the themes...I was so engrossed in it all that I never wanted it to end.

Of course, the themes were really well done. My dad's a cop, so my mother saw the film as one grand love letter to the heroism of the police force. Meanwhile, I saw nuanced, mature criticism of the law system. I'm assuming that neither of us are wrong, and I love how the writers were able to be able to juggle multiple viewpoints so flawlessly. I can imagine that multiple future high school and college essays will be based around Zootopia. That's how much the writing can be explored.

The humor was great too, even if only the adults in the audience were laughing at half the jokes. My theatre was in stitches over the DMV scene (although I'm saddened that I was the only person in a full theatre to laugh at rabbits being "good at multiplying" and the "Let it Go" joke). The kids seemed entertained anyway (I'd like to note that my group seemed to be the only group without kids, unlike Inside Out last year when that was a full theatre with all adults). One little boy in my theatre outright yelled "I hope there's a second Zootopia!" right when the credits started and got some approving "yeah"s and claps from other audience members, which warmed my heart.

Frankly, I'm shocked that there is not more discussion about this film on this forum. I've never wanted to talk about a Disney Animation movie this badly. Definitely my favorite Disney Animation film since Lilo and Stitch (and Lilo and Stitch is one of my favorite Disney films anyway). I'm so happy that this film is doing so well, because as many people as possible need to see it.

Anyone who has watched this movie can rightfully say that "don't judge a book by its cover" has never been more accurate. I would say this film is the anti-Chicken Little,where instead of Disney trying so hard to be hip that they alienate people, they instead create a mature animal movie that addresses a very difficult and complex issue in modern society. They nail it so right that you can't believe it's coming from Disney, and not some adult dramedy.

One big thing that I like about this movie is that they address the dangers of institutional racism which can be at times more dangerous and harmful than aggressive racism. I know some people think the third act fallout is cliche, but it serves a purpose to show that even under all her talks of being progressive, Judy still has some racist hangups. Most movies both children and adult go the obvious route of addressing racism by showing open discrimination in society. At one time, Zootopia was going to go that route too where predators were mandated to wear shock collars. However, they got rid of that because of the fact that the creators wanted a world where the viewers could root for and I agree with that notion.By making it a dystopian society for predators, it becomes a depressing movie where you see a main character oppressed by a system that puts him down. In the final film, they make it so that it's a place that everybody would want to live in because of the ideals it stands for, but underneath the mask it's a very flawed society that a lot of issues to address. The final version of Zootopia feels more like a modern society that is dealing with multicultural issues, and intermingling of people from different walks of life. Where the early drafts were a society that could fit more into dystopian fiction, final film Zootopia hits home about how even in a so called civilized society old prejudices can still pop up. However, at the end of it all Zootopia says that change starts with everyone when they rise up against bigotry.

Byron Howard answers the questions most frequently asked by fans:



Source: https://twitter.com/ByronPHoward/status ... 0877557760


Art book review. Contains photos and a video:

http://www.parkablogs.com/content/book- ... f-zootopia


More how to draw videos. I have to say I find it a bit strange that they teach us how to draw the characters by hand when the film is in 3D:

How to draw Nick Wilde with Co-director Byron Howard
How to draw Flash with Art Director of Characters Cory Loftis
How to draw Benjanmin Clawhauser Art Director of Characters Cory Loftis

Well it would be weirder if they tried to teach us how to sculpt a 3D model of them.

"so now if you'll just open your copy of zbrush we can get started"


Of course, I personally would love that but we all know that's not going to happen.

Kyle wrote:Well it would be weirder if they tried to teach us how to sculpt a 3D model of them.

"so now if you'll just open your copy of zbrush we can get started"

Well, that's true.

I saw this last weekend and was very happy with it. Definitely a huge step up from Big Hero 6 (bland and average) and Frozen (enjoyable but messy). I will say that the "message" was a bit on the nose at a couple of points, but I wouldn't call it super preachy either. It could have ended up feeling like an after-school special, but it didn't--it was really genuinely touching and full of heart, and for the most part was done really well in that respect.

But that aside, this movie was just so much fun. The cityscapes were really imaginative and beautiful--just great worldbuilding--and all of the sight gags and jokes were clever and genuinely funny. (And so many Easter Eggs!) The character animation was also impressive, and the voice cast was really great (though that is something that WDAS and Pixar are usually pretty good at).

Congrats on reaching the half billion $$ mark Zootopia
http://variety.com/2016/film/news/zooto ... 201733763/

Imagine a giant poster of this in your room

According to this site, along with a few others, Zootopia will be released on DVD, BD/DVD/DC & 3D/BD/DVD/DC June 7th, 2016.

DisneyEra wrote:Congrats on reaching the half billion $$ mark Zootopia
http://variety.com/2016/film/news/zooto ... 201733763/

Looks like a sleeper hit! (Remember that? )

ce1ticmoon wrote:

DisneyEra wrote:Congrats on reaching the half billion $$ mark Zootopia
http://variety.com/2016/film/news/zooto ... 201733763/

Looks like a sleeper hit! (Remember that? )

Yep, just like Snow White was dubbed Disney's Folly, The Lion King was the B-Team Movie & Frozen was Tangled with Snow.

To be fair, "sleeper hit" can be defined as a film that is an unexpected success. I certainly was not expecting this film to nearly outgross Wreck-it Ralph so quickly.

Plus, it's an unexpected success with critics as well. I remember how many posters on this forum said that they weren't very excited to see Zootopia, and that Moana would be the more hype-worthy film. I don't think anybody expected "one of the best Disney movies ever" just by glancing at Zootopia's premise or one of the trailers. Disney executives probably knew that they had made a gem that would end up defying audience expectations.

Yes, a sleeper hit is usually an unexpected success, but usually is not something that comes out of the gate running. It builds its success and popularity over time. Zootopia opened bigger than any previous WDAS film, so it really can't be considered a sleeper hit in any traditional sense of the term. It's just a big hit, period.

A lot of people here assumed it perhaps indicated their lack of confidence in the movie, but maybe it actually represented their confidence in how positively people would react to the film? (I'm saying "they" since I can't remember who actually said it.) Either way, it was still a really weird thing to say... a sleeper hit can really only defined as such after the fact.

I was just being facetious anyway. I just found it funny that the one film they deem will be a "sleeper hit" starts off bigger than any of their previous films. And in March, no less. (Though to be fair, a lot of movies have been finding success lately in months that are not traditionally considered to be big box office months.)

This is easily the best written DAC to date. Most Disney movies get by on the strength of their songs, visuals and side characters, but this is one where not only the main character is well developed, but the entire society (including the supporting cast) she inhabits is too. I'm also glad Disney was confident (or maybe apathetic?) enough to allow a movie so open about its message and occasionaly frightening to get released.

I wasn't really looking forward to this one, even just a few days before the movie's release. I was happy to be proven wrong about how good the movie truly was.

I finally saw the film this last week and was really disappointed with it. Instead of that classic Disney touch that entertains and has a hidden/lighter message, it felt more like SJW propaganda. The message was very heavy and in the audience's face. I did not appropriated that. I also felt like it dealt with some very adult subjects that were not appropriate in a "Disney" film. Lastly, I really get annoyed at many of the modern "Disney" films that always takes at least one swipe at classic Disney. I really feel like the modern, 21st Century company is trying to bury most of their 20th Century past, and that doesn't sit well with me.

Honestly, while I realize that these CG Disney films are technically counted as part of the DAC, they really feel like they came from a completely different animation studio. That's not just due to the animation, but very much due to the writing. The tone has changed.

milojthatch wrote:I finally saw the film this last week and was really disappointed with it. Instead of that classic Disney touch that entertains and has a hidden/lighter message, it felt more like SJW propaganda. The message was very heavy and in the audience's face. I did not appropriated that. I also felt like it dealt with some very adult subjects that were not appropriate in a "Disney" film.

LOL, of course you did. Should we be surprised?

This is a movie with near unanimous support amongst both audiences (95% on RT, 8.4/10 on IMDB) and critics (99% on RT, 78% Metacritic). No, not every single person on planet earth likes it, but trying to paint this box office smash as "un-Disney" because it doesn't fit your very narrow definition of what counts as Disney entertainment is ridiculous.

Plus, if subtly telling kids that stereotyping and prejudice split people apart counts as "SJW propaganda" then I worry for your children. It truly is an issue that should be directly handled in kids' films rather than skirted around. Sugar coating things only trivializes prejudice. Kids' media often examines outdated depictions of racism (like, mid-20th century or before) because it's easier to get material from those eras. However, Zootopia dares to be honest about modern society. After all, racism is not dead. Pointing that out to children so that they can learn to treat everyone with respect should not be frowned upon. If I ever have kids, I'll totally be willing to use Zootopia as a teaching tool. The lesson doesn't even have to be about racism. Just don't judge or belittle anyone based on looks.

Also, is The Hunchback of Notre Dame not classic Disney? It has a message that's quite similar to Zootopia's, and I'd argue that it's no less subtle about it. I mean, it actually uses humans.

Tangled wrote:Plus, if subtly telling kids that stereotyping and prejudice split people apart counts as "SJW propaganda" then I worry for your children. It truly is an issue that should be directly handled in kids' films rather than skirted around. Sugar coating things only trivializes prejudice. Kids' media often examines outdated depictions of racism (like, mid-20th century or before) because it's easier to get material from those eras. However, Zootopia dares to be honest about modern society. After all, racism is not dead. Pointing that out to children so that they can learn to treat everyone with respect should not be frowned upon. If I ever have kids, I'll totally be willing to use Zootopia as a teaching tool. The lesson doesn't even have to be about racism. Just don't judge or belittle anyone based on looks.

Also, is The Hunchback of Notre Dame not classic Disney? It has a message that's quite similar to Zootopia's, and I'd argue that it's no less subtle about it. I mean, it actually uses humans.

I think milojthatch is trying to say is about not saying things and morals out loud in the movie, and rather suggest them through the more traditional visual tricks like in the old disney movies (red colors, green colors for bad guys...etc).

But still I'm with you Tangled, Hunchback is way more "in your face" than Zootopia. Frollo said oud loud gypsies are all thieves, and called an orphaned child Quasimodo referencing the fact that he is deformed, yeah that was subtle

If you represent things in a movie and sugarcoat them or give them a brief pass like "aand we talk about this stuff, ok, the end", the moral the kids take home is that is not important enough and I think Zootopia deals with those issues in a great way and is less in your face than "classic Disney Films" such as Hunchback.

Heck I watched it a couple of years ago and I was amazed of how brutal and sincere was about racism, stereotypes, authority abuse, and being the different one for how conservative the company is.