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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:07 am
by blackcauldron85
Rudy Matt wrote:By the way BC -

I love The Black Cauldron. Do you have a home theater sound system?
I enjoy reading your posts all through the Disney On-Line Community (Jim Hill, etc.)
And I especially appreciate your links in threads to outside information. You're a one-person daily info-bomb!
Keep it up!
<3 Thank you! And nope, I don't have a home theater system. Why, does it sound extra-awesome with one? Probably...
yamiiguy wrote:BBFC:

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/AVV271870

MUSICANA [Additional material FANTASIA 2000]
Video - 8m56s
Online - 8m56s

Maybe BD-Live then?
OH MY GODDDDDD!!!!!!!!!! My mind is blown- SO EXCITED now! This best not be BD-Live only then...heck, it best not be Blu-ray only. Damn you, Blu-ray, don't make me caveeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:48 am
by Rudy Matt
blackcauldron85 wrote:
Rudy Matt wrote:By the way BC -

I love The Black Cauldron. Do you have a home theater sound system?
I enjoy reading your posts all through the Disney On-Line Community (Jim Hill, etc.)
And I especially appreciate your links in threads to outside information. You're a one-person daily info-bomb!
Keep it up!
<3 Thank you! And nope, I don't have a home theater system. Why, does it sound extra-awesome with one? Probably...
One of the major selling points of The Black Cauldron and Super Technirama-70 was the six-track dolby sound mix. Front-stage stereo effects are extremely aggressive, almost Fantasia-esque, as the sound follows characters around the front speakers. For the Horned King, his voice takes on an omnipresent quality, as his voice rumbles from all the front and rear channels. His first scene is a doozy, as he talks to his collection of rotting corpses and his voice fills the room.

Yeah, The Black Cauldron in 5.1 is a whole lot of fun. If you haven't seen it in 5.1, you really haven't seen it. Swooping Gwythaints and Bernstein's tub-rattling score, aggresive stereo panning, aggressive rear channel use. You owe it to yourself to bring the disc over to a friend's house if they have a proper HT.

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:07 pm
by ajmrowland
^Sounds about as good as The Lion King's DVD.

well, you make it sound that way. :P

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:21 pm
by Wonderlicious
blackcauldron85 wrote:
yamiiguy wrote:BBFC:

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/AVV271870

MUSICANA [Additional material FANTASIA 2000]
Video - 8m56s
Online - 8m56s

Maybe BD-Live then?
OH MY GODDDDDD!!!!!!!!!! My mind is blown- SO EXCITED now! This best not be BD-Live only then...heck, it best not be Blu-ray only. Damn you, Blu-ray, don't make me caveeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Isn't Musicana the world-music package feature that was being developed in the early 80s? :o I think that it will probably be available both online (via BD-Live) and on Blu-Ray (and maybe DVD). Is that how BD-Live works? I'm such a n00b... :scratch:

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:24 pm
by ajmrowland
^That's not necessarily how it works, unless the BD-Live version gets some sort of edge, it's rare to see something that's also on the disc.

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:03 am
by yamiiguy
Wonderlicious wrote:
blackcauldron85 wrote: OH MY GODDDDDD!!!!!!!!!! My mind is blown- SO EXCITED now! This best not be BD-Live only then...heck, it best not be Blu-ray only. Damn you, Blu-ray, don't make me caveeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Isn't Musicana the world-music package feature that was being developed in the early 80s? :o I think that it will probably be available both online (via BD-Live) and on Blu-Ray (and maybe DVD). Is that how BD-Live works? I'm such a n00b... :scratch:
Usually BD-Live features are not available on the disc. Usually BD-Live includes new trailers, scheduled chats with a member of the cast/crew and general bonus features that they couldn't fit on or didn't put on the disc.

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:27 am
by ajmrowland
^*Ahem*^^

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:28 am
by blackcauldron85
Wonderlicious wrote:Isn't Musicana the world-music package feature that was being developed in the early 80s?
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :pink:

And so I shouldn't feel bad if it is BD-Live only, since not everyone with a Blu-ray player can utilize that, right???

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:36 pm
by miniroll32
Oh this great... and their BD Live is only available in the United States and Canada.

Thanks Disney.

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:09 pm
by Disneykid
Maybe I'm missing something, but why is everyone assuming this will be available via BD-Live only? The BBFC classification makes no mention of that, and the only thing we've heard about BD-Live in regards to these releases is how it'll be used to store archival material from the Anthology DVD set. There was never anything on Musicana on that set, so I'm just about positive that it'll be appear on the actual disc supplements. Now whether that will be shared between DVD and BD is another story...

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:09 pm
by tlc38tlc38
I think when this eventually does come out it's gonna be like poof there it is and then poof it's back in the vault. I think they know only true fans of Disney will buy this and they never planned on promoting it very much.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:52 am
by ajmrowland
Disneykid wrote:Maybe I'm missing something, but why is everyone assuming this will be available via BD-Live only? The BBFC classification makes no mention of that, and the only thing we've heard about BD-Live in regards to these releases is how it'll be used to store archival material from the Anthology DVD set. There was never anything on Musicana on that set, so I'm just about positive that it'll be appear on the actual disc supplements. Now whether that will be shared between DVD and BD is another story...
The BBFC classification mention the Online runtime for this feature. That's why we're assuming BD-Live's involvement(even if it's not exclusive).

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:57 am
by Rudy Matt
ajmrowland wrote:^Sounds about as good as The Lion King's DVD.

well, you make it sound that way. :P
The Black Cauldron soundtrack is a more overt use of directional sound. The Lion King can certainly shake the walls, but The Black Cauldron is more eccentric and in your face along these lines.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:47 pm
by MJW
I've been thinking a lot about Fantasia lately, so I pulled out my Fantasia and Fantasia 2000 VHS tapes to watch them over the last few nights. I don't even own the DVD's, but I am really excited for the Blu-ray release! The visuals are stunning even on VHS tape, Blu-ray has got to be mind-blowing!!

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:18 am
by Scamander
Fantasia and Fantasia 2000 are now listed on amazon.de and available for pre-order. They'll be released on November 4th here, also they'll contain only one blu-ray disc each. Let's hope they don't cancel the third disc on the US-release, too.

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:39 am
by Sotiris
Scamander wrote:Fantasia and Fantasia 2000 are now listed on amazon.de and available for pre-order. They'll be released on November 4th here, also they'll contain only one blu-ray disc each. Let's hope they don't cancel the third disc on the US-release, too.
Also, the site "Planeta Disney" has confirmed that the films will be released on the 3rd of November 2010 in Spain.

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:48 am
by tlc38tlc38
The amazon.de listing says that Fantasia's running time is 114 minutes and the 60th anniversary edition was 125 minutes.

It lists Fantasia 2000 as 71 minutes and the regular dvd has a running time of 74 minutes.

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:36 am
by blackcauldron85
^ Is that due to PAL speedup/slowdown/whatever?

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:18 pm
by miniroll32
No - it could be minus the Intermission, if they decided not to include that in the total with it being a title card.

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:31 pm
by Rudy Matt
Or not the Road Show Version.