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Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:41 pm
by Kyle
pinkrenata wrote:Whoa whoa whoa. What's the deal with the hairy red guy??!!
What about him? it was part of the gag of that shot.

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:06 pm
by TsWade2
Kyle wrote:
pinkrenata wrote:Whoa whoa whoa. What's the deal with the hairy red guy??!!
What about him? it was part of the gag of that shot.
That guy was been tricked by Dr. Facilier. :lol:

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:14 pm
by cms382
PatrickvD wrote:
cms382 wrote:The townspeople in BatB may look worse but at least they look like a crowd and not cel layers on a background.
They kinda do in the awful restoration actually.
:lol: well that's certainly true. Some of those scenes were low-contrast for a reason!

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:19 pm
by estefan
I think the award for the worst crowds in a Disney animated film belongs to The Hunchback of Notre Dame:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvNMEuedsJk[/youtube]

Either some of them are static or are obvious CG people made to move in strange cycles. I know this is 1996 and so, the technology was still being worked on, but I see no problems with the wildebeests stampeding towards Simba in The Lion King. Even the directors comment on the low quality of the crowds in the audio commentary.

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:38 pm
by pinkrenata
TsWade2 wrote:
Kyle wrote: What about him? it was part of the gag of that shot.
That guy was been tricked by Dr. Facilier. :lol:
Okay, I vaguely remember now. I've only seen TPATF once or twice. I was thinking maybe he was an example of background animation gone horribly wrong!

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:03 pm
by Semaj
The Five Stages of Death

Denial (2003-2004): "No, Disney animation can't be dead. It's just hibernating." :|

Anger (2005-2007): "FUCK DISNEY! THOSE IDIOTS KILLED THEIR OWN HISTORY!" :x

Bargaining (2008-2011): "If we go to see The Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh more than once, Disney will HAVE to bring hand-drawn back for real!" :ears:

Depression (2012): "I can't believe there are no more hand-drawn features." :cry:

Acceptance (2013): "Tangled was great, and I loved Wreck-it Ralph! I'm sure Disney has a bright future with their CGI features." :)

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:19 pm
by TsWade2
Semaj wrote:The Five Stages of Death

Denial (2003-2004): "No, Disney animation can't be dead. It's just hibernating." :|

Anger (2005-2007): "FUCK DISNEY! THOSE IDIOTS KILLED THEIR OWN HISTORY!" :x

Bargaining (2008-2011): "If we go to see The Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh more than once, Disney will HAVE to bring hand-drawn back for real!" :ears:

Depression (2012): "I can't believe there are no more hand-drawn features." :cry:

Acceptance (2013): "Tangled was great, and I loved Wreck-it Ralph! I'm sure Disney has a bright future with their CGI features." :)
Do we have to go through this again? :roll:

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:59 pm
by PatrickvD
Semaj wrote:The Five Stages of Death

Denial (2003-2004): "No, Disney animation can't be dead. It's just hibernating." :|

Anger (2005-2007): "FUCK DISNEY! THOSE IDIOTS KILLED THEIR OWN HISTORY!" :x

Bargaining (2008-2011): "If we go to see The Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh more than once, Disney will HAVE to bring hand-drawn back for real!" :ears:

Depression (2012): "I can't believe there are no more hand-drawn features." :cry:

Acceptance (2013): "Tangled was great, and I loved Wreck-it Ralph! I'm sure Disney has a bright future with their CGI features." :)
This gets a big LIKE from me. I've accepted it. Times change. People have moved on and so have I.

It's okay. It's not like the great classics are gone. They're still there. As beautiful as they always were.

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:22 pm
by TsWade2
PatrickvD wrote:
Semaj wrote:The Five Stages of Death

Denial (2003-2004): "No, Disney animation can't be dead. It's just hibernating." :|

Anger (2005-2007): "FUCK DISNEY! THOSE IDIOTS KILLED THEIR OWN HISTORY!" :x

Bargaining (2008-2011): "If we go to see The Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh more than once, Disney will HAVE to bring hand-drawn back for real!" :ears:

Depression (2012): "I can't believe there are no more hand-drawn features." :cry:

Acceptance (2013): "Tangled was great, and I loved Wreck-it Ralph! I'm sure Disney has a bright future with their CGI features." :)
This gets a big LIKE from me. I've accepted it. Times change. People have moved on and so have I.

It's okay. It's not like the great classics are gone. They're still there. As beautiful as they always were.
Well, hand drawn can't die. :(

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:28 pm
by SWillie!
I believe that would put you in the denial phase, then. ;)

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:32 pm
by Marky_198
And Tangled was not great. Quite generic CGI, the look of plastic dolls moving if you ask me.

There is another way to go in animation, and I am still waiting for it to happen.......but I look forward to it.

Edit: I saw this documentary about recent CGI films and they said that they needed extremely exaggerated features for the characters, because if they kept it normal it would look too "real", like human beings.
It comes to a point now that I can't even see if a character is supposed to be human or not, the character designs are that disturbing. Gigantic eyes, square heads, or looking like aliens or animals or something in between.
Hopefully they can go back to very realistic/human looking characters with the "paperman" evolution.

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:44 pm
by TsWade2
SWillie! wrote:I believe that would put you in the denial phase, then. ;)
Very funny. I just hope Kathleen Kennedy will be the next CEO so we can have hand drawn back.

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:51 pm
by Marky_198
This really is the lowest point in animation history.
WTF is this supposed to be? An alien coming out of a spaceship in a Nickelodeon tv series?
thelittleursula wrote:
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Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:34 pm
by TsWade2
I know this is not necessary, but here's the petition to save hand drawn animation if anyone is interested.

https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/ ... e_petition

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:00 pm
by UmbrellaFish
I've known for about a year now that Disney was finished with 2D, but I'm not depressed. For the first time in a long time, Disney is making must-see movies again. Quality movies.

Besides, an entire medium can't just die-- especially one utilized in such cherished endeavors as Disney movies 1937-2004. It'll be back, in spurts maybe, but Winnie the Pooh is not Disney's last hand-drawn movie.

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:02 pm
by SWillie!
Not sure if Marky is trolling or not.... >.>

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:40 pm
by Elladorine
PatrickvD wrote:This gets a big LIKE from me. I've accepted it. Times change. People have moved on and so have I.

It's okay. It's not like the great classics are gone. They're still there. As beautiful as they always were.
:thumb:

SWillie! wrote:Not sure if Marky is trolling or not.... >.>
Probably not. :milkbuds:

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:15 pm
by DisneyJedi
Umm.... I'm pretty sure hand-drawn animation is far from dead at Disney, but....

https://www.change.org/petitions/disney ... mation-die#

Share this with everyone you know.

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:18 pm
by TsWade2
DisneyJedi wrote:Umm.... I'm pretty sure hand-drawn animation is far from dead at Disney, but....

https://www.change.org/petitions/disney ... mation-die#

Share this with everyone you know.
But I already post that link. :P

I'm praying to God that Kathleen Kennedy will be the next CEO of Disney. Early, I know.

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:02 am
by qindarka
Kathleen Kennedy isn't the messiah. There is a good chance that if she is appointed, nothing will change, it's not like the company president is the supreme overlord, the are beholden to shareholders and are responsible for profit above all else. I'd encourage you not to hope for too much from her.