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yendor wrote:"Robin Hood" is nowhere near the class of films like "Cinderella" and "Song of the South."

That is NOT a fact, no matter how you put it. Stop being so arrogant and get off your high horse!

stitcharielbeast wrote:aww please argue I love reading arguments...... I made this thread so people could argue I'm sorry I'm evil

I think there's enough arguing/debate already. no need for another!

but just to add, the Sleeping Beauty SE is almost like a PE. I don't know what more they can add!

RJKD23 wrote:but just to add, the Sleeping Beauty SE is almost like a PE. I don't know what more they can add!

A third disk baby!

DisneyKid, despite your protestations, Robin Hood is NOT a classic film. Believe me, if the Disney organization held it in high regard --the same regard as Cinderella and Song of the South--you'd see it getting the Platinum treatment. It isn't. Nuff said.

Rod (still on his horse)

yendor wrote:DisneyKid, despite your protestations, Robin Hood is NOT a classic film. Believe me, if the Disney organization held it in high regard --the same regard as Cinderella and Song of the South--you'd see it getting the Platinum treatment. It isn't. Nuff said.

Rod (still on his horse)

No. If it would've sold lots of copies of home video in the past it would get the PE title.. Disney doesn't choose what equals "classic". They choose what equals money! Get your facts straight before arguing in such an arrogant way!

i'm happy with the platinum line. I don't think i'd change it really...except i would've made Sleeping Beauty a PE instead of a SE, but who hasn't said that... I like all the disney movies for what they are, and i think we should all respect each one for what it's done and not judge each other for liking one more than the other. For instance... The Lion King was a huge success and i agree that it's not at the top of my list for favorite disney movies but i appreciate what it's done, and even though the story line may be common the music is classic! you can't beat elton john and hans zimmer! Robin Hood is a classic in it's own right as well, not really as popular now as is has been in the past, but still a classic. I'm excited to see Song of the South now, i mean after all this controversy! the only problem is... will disney advertise this well enought to make the public away it exsists? i mean outside of us in the forum and the other disney fanatics, do people in the public know about this film? i can see it's release being risky in many different ways.

Song of the South!

Ballzo wrote:Song of the South!

I think the Platinum line is only meant for animated classics and the other thing is that it's going to be released in the future, which is a very good thing for you who live in the US and for me who can import it. ^^

I don't really understand the fuss about Robin Hood, but if it couldn't be a PE I could consider it as a SE, I mean I don't think it's that bad and unclassic as people say.

So, DisneyKid, it's all about money, huh? And that's the only reason why something's included as a Platinum? Well, according to your friend Jayden, "Robin Hood" was an incredibly successful animated post-Walt hit. Using your logic, it would be a shoe-in for a Platinum. But guess what? It's not a Platinum.

Gee, there goes your logic.

Rod

DisneyFan 2000 wrote:

RJKD23 wrote:but just to add, the Sleeping Beauty SE is almost like a PE. I don't know what more they can add!

A third disk baby!

and then every other PE should have a 3rd disc! stop getting ideas from PotC "lost disc"

As for whant i think they should make all the disney movies to PE no matter if it is a bad movie or a semi good movie!

yendor wrote:DisneyKid, despite your protestations, Robin Hood is NOT a classic film. Believe me, if the Disney organization held it in high regard --the same regard as Cinderella and Song of the South--you'd see it getting the Platinum treatment. It isn't. Nuff said.

Rod (still on his horse)

I never said anything about Robin Hood...

As my favorite Disney film period is the Walt Era, I´d release those animated features as follows. A lot of those edition-wishes have been released by the disney studio (or are in planning stage), but there are still some changes I´d make:

Platinum Editions:

Snow White (released)
Pinocchio
Fantasia
Dumbo
Bambi (released)

Cinderella
Alice in Wonderland
Peter Pan
Lady And The Tramp
Sleeping Beauty
101 Dalmatians
The Sword In The Stone
Jungle Book


Special Editions:

Saludos Amigos
The Three Caballeros
Make Mine Music
Fun And Fancy Free
Melody Time
Adventures Of Ichabod And Mr. Toad

+ SE of movies with animated sequences:

Song Of The South (I don´t know how much material they have for the extras, so a SE is maybe the better way)
So Dear To My Heart
Mary Poppins (released)

Treasure Tins of the following movies:

Reluctant Dragon (released)
Victory Through Air Power (released)
Winnie The Pooh (with the 1977 feature + the single animated featurettes from the 1960s and 1970s


from the post-Walt-era I´d release only the box office hits as platinums (e.g. Little Mermaid, Beauty And The Beast, Aladdin), the others should get a SE treatment (e.g. Aristocats, Robin Hood, Rescuers, Black Cauldron)

People, some of you are listing every classic that's not as Platinum as ones that should be. Hello! If every one of them was a Platinum, there would be no point in this line of DVDs. All of the "popular" Disney films that aren't Platinum will and have gotten some type of Special Edition treatment. What would be my own personal choices of the Platinums?

Disney's Prince Eric's Choices
101 Dalmatians 101 Dalmatians
Aladdin Aladdin
Bambi Bambi
Beauty and the Beast Beauty and the Beast
Cinderella Cinderella
The Jungle Book The Jungle Book
Lady & The Tramp Lady & The Tramp
The Lion King The Lion King
The Little Mermaid The Little Mermaid
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs Pocahontas

Wow, what a coincidence! I'm 9 for 9! I'm happy with this line, as you can see. I am still doubtful about the final four additions. Disney has been pretty lowdown about those. I would however, substitute Sleeping Beauty for Mulan. So even with 14 titles, 12 have a special place in my heart. It's perfectly understandable why they didn't use my choices, because there would be too many films from the 90's.

Disneykid wrote:

yendor wrote:DisneyKid, despite your protestations, Robin Hood is NOT a classic film. Believe me, if the Disney organization held it in high regard --the same regard as Cinderella and Song of the South--you'd see it getting the Platinum treatment. It isn't. Nuff said.

Rod (still on his horse)

I never said anything about Robin Hood...

I think he mixed up your name with DisneyFan 2000s!!

yendor wrote:So, DisneyKid, it's all about money, huh? And that's the only reason why something's included as a Platinum? Well, according to your friend Jayden, "Robin Hood" was an incredibly successful animated post-Walt hit. Using your logic, it would be a shoe-in for a Platinum. But guess what? It's not a Platinum.

Gee, there goes your logic.

Personally, I don't think Robin Hood should be a Platinum, just because I really can't picture it as that. However, I think they should make it into a fabulous 2-Disc release, compared to the weak 1-Discer.

yendor wrote:DisneyKid, despite your protestations, Robin Hood is NOT a classic film. Believe me, if the Disney organization held it in high regard --the same regard as Cinderella and Song of the South--you'd see it getting the Platinum treatment. It isn't. Nuff said.

Rod (still on his horse)

If you're talking to DisneyFan 2000, how rude to mess up his/her nickname!
I would definetely say that's not so sophisticated (talking about sophistication).

From what I understand, Jayden isn't saying Cinderella doesn't deserve PE, he just says he'd like others to be PE's instead of Cinderella because he likes other movies more (kicking Cinderella out of the PE's), and there isn't room for every movie to be a PE; as said before, it be pointless to create a PE collection if you include every movie. AND AGAIN it's just a damn opinion!!!
And yet again, just because a movie is not a PE, it doesn't mean it isn't held with high regard by Disney; there just isn't room to make every outstanding movie a PE. I bet Walt Disney himself would have put Sleeping Beauty in the PE himself, even though it's not one.

SailorEric wrote:just because a movie is not a PE, it doesn't mean it isn't held with high regard by Disney; there just isn't room to make every outstanding movie a PE.

THANK YOU! That was the perfect answer to these silly fights...

the whole problem with the PE is that Disney themselves changed the original aim to release only! the 10 best-selling home video titles:

"The Platinum Collection was originally comprised of Disney's 10 best-selling home video titles. In May of 2003, Disney announced they would be adding Pinocchio, Fantasia, Peter Pan, and Sleeping Beauty to the Platinum Collection for a total of 14 titles. The Platinum Edition releases are even superior to their Collector's Edition releases for new movies, devoted to the ultimate video and audio, and a plethora of extras" (from the UD release types)

As the PE are something extra special, everyone chooses (if he/she had the choice) his/her favorite animated feature to be PE. That´s natural. Some like me prefer the Walt era, some others the 90s, some prefer all classics to be PE, cause they probably love all classics... it´s just a wish. And sometimes wishes are illogical or seem illogical to others, that´s natural, too.

There was a time here in Germany when Disney released every animated feature as a masterpiece on home video. It was just a marketing strategy to say to the consumer: this is something extra special...

To me it´s the same with those release types: it´s just a Disney marketing strategy (I´m studying business administration myself). So if Disney knew that a PE treatment would garantee extra cash, they´d release even Make Mine Music as a PE (with all extras, silly games etc.)!

e.g. those Gold Collections: what´s so golden about them?

...just an opinion.

Can we stop with the Robin Hood hate already?

I'm personally dying to see it again after such a long time.

The pretty cool thing is that almost all Disney DVDs over here are about $15, except for special editions like Aladdin, Bambi, Mulan etc which are like $20. Of course they are national (Mexican) releases with different cover art in a different language, but you still get the English audio track. Also, there's plenty of titles available. I remember seeing various Disney Treasures, Robin Hood, Aladdin I, II and III, Beauty and the Beast II, Robin Hood, The Sword and the Stone, The Fox and the Hound, The Three Musketeers, some Winnie Pooh stuff, Mulan I and II, Pocahontas, Alice in Wonderland, Lion King 1, 1.5 and II, Hercules, Atlantis... I know there's some others I forgot. However, there's some hard to find ones like Sleeping Beauty that were special editions.