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unprincess wrote:ohh Disney better be careful with this one, knowing how much they like to mash cultures. I hope they are aware that although Brazil is part of Latin America it is not a Hispanic(Spanish speaking) one and has a very distinct culture. But hopefully with LMM there, he will help keep this in mind...

Agreed. Disney has gotten away with mashing up cultures for their other projects like Frozen, Elena of Avalor, and Moana to the point that they don't seem to know how to do anything else and it certainly won't work here.

I wonder if they might employ magic realism for this film.

I kind of hope the title changes, and yet another part of me likes the title, Encanto. They said the meaning is "charm," but at first I thought it meant "I love," which for some reason I liked. I also like the inverse of the past few plots where the princess is an outsider because she has powers; now she's an outsider because she doesn't have any.

I admit though, the story is a bit of a letdown like Sotiris said. I was hoping we could get another romance-based fairytale set in "olden times." I guess we'll never get another film even vaguely like that again? This is pretty disappointing. I think Raya just usurped it as the film I'm looking forward to the most based on that sparse synopsis.

While my heart lies with princesses and fantasy, I am excited to see the studio explore new things (after Raya and this one, I’m actually eager for some more animal films and non-fantasy films just to mix things up. I read up on Fraidy Cat recently and how I wish Ron and John were directing that at Disney right now). I’m happy the story is set in Brazil and not some Brazil-like kingdom or country... I’m so bored with that at this point and it seems like a lazy cop out. I’m excited to see how the Disney artists interpret actual Brazil, either the Brazil of the past or the present.

It will be interesting to see what her “Princess” costume looks like— because Disney’s first lead Latina is 100% going to be added to the line right? If the movie is contemporary, would they really dress her up in street clothes the whole flick? Could she be the first “normal” Princess? Hmm... we’ll see... but I doubt it, costume street clothes won’t sell like a costume Princess dress.

I hope in the end she still has no supernatural powers, because I’m over the Superhero Princess trend, too.

I hope she's not a princess. Imo one of the most regressive things that could happen is making every female character a "princess" whether she is or isn't one. We need more "regular" human characters like Alice, Lilo, Moana (who really shouldn't be a princess considering in her film she indignantly claimed she wasn't one), Judy (being a bunny rabbit aside), Raya, etc. Disney needs to get over trying to shoehorn every female character they have into the princess phenomenon.

I like the idea of a contemporary film set in Brazil especially because that's such a rich setting that hasn't been explored by Disney. If the whole story is about how her family has powers and she doesn't I hope the ending isn't a cop-out with her gaining powers as well. It would be more meaningful if she finds it in herself to love herself for who she is and that she ultimately doesn't need powers. The same way Onward showed that sometimes there are things you simply can't have in life no matter how much you want them and that's okay.

DisneyFan09 wrote:While I`m glad that we`ve finally recevied an official announcement about it

Well, not really an official announcement. Disney hasn't said one word about this project nor have the trades said anything, so I'm still waiting for a reputable source to make an announcement before getting excited.

unprincess wrote:ohh Disney better be careful with this one, knowing how much they like to mash cultures. I hope they are aware that although Brazil is part of Latin America it is not a Hispanic(Spanish speaking) one and has a very distinct culture. But hopefully with LMM there, he will help keep this in mind...

Lin-Manuel Miranda is Puerto Rican, though. I don't know how much of an expert he is in Brazilian culture.

It's funny, though. I was actually reading about Carmen Miranda a while back and when she was making it big in the US, the reception towards her in Brazil was very mixed. She was accused of, as you said, mixing the cultures of different Latin American countries, although the fault was also largely on the American producers who stereotyped her. Her first Hollywood movie was even called "Down Argentine Way."

It would be neat to see Disney make an animated movie set in Brazil, though. I've wanted to see them give Jose Carioca a starring role for years, as he's one of my favourite (and most underrated) Disney characters and deserves the chance to shine.

I think the gold standard for animated movies set in Brazil belongs to the "Rio" movies, though. It helps that the director is Brazilian and they employed Brazilian songwriters like Sergio Mendes, so there was an authenticity there. I remember Carlos Saldanha saying in an interview that while he enjoyed "The Three Caballeros" and "Saludos Amigos", he always felt they represented an American point-of-view of his country. With "Rio", he wanted to show Brazil from the perspective of a Brazilian.

I was gonna mention Rio, the depiction of Brazil is one of the few things I liked about the thing. I know LMM isnt Brazilian but I figure he'd at least be aware if they shoehorn elements that are more Hispanic culture in nature. Also Im sure they will have at least a couple of creators involved who are actually Brazilian b/c at this point you cant make an animated film of a certain culture without input from creators from said culture without getting called out on it.

I was also hoping for "another romance-based fairytale set in "olden times.". Sadly this seems to be set in present times, which is very disappointing as is the fact i won't be set in a fairy tale kingdom but regular old brazil , But who knows it might be god anyway

I was just hoping for something more fantasy based, But on the bright side isn't another talking Animal comedy(which we get tons of from other studios. So that's good !

Sotiris wrote:I think it's safe to say they'll make up a kingdom and/or country that's going to be an hodgepodge of various Central and South American countries, cultures, and eras, just like they did with Moana and Elena of Avalor.

I AM COMPLETLY fine with them "making up a kingdom with a various Central and South American countries, cultures, and eras" Dosn't bother me at it's a fantasy movie after all

Sotiris wrote:I hope you're right, but the fact it's based on a real country instead of a fictional one inspired by the region like Moana and Raya were makes me believe it will be set in modern times and it will be about a superhero family.

I prefer" fictional one inspired by the region"

I won't lie, the concept of the protagonist not having powers while her family does reminds me of a couple of recent popular anime with a similar concept, My Hero Academia and Black Clover.

Avaitor wrote:I won't lie, the concept of the protagonist not having powers while her family does reminds me of a couple of recent popular anime with a similar concept, My Hero Academia and Black Clover.

The Concept sounds very much like the movie Sky High !

I hope this one stars Cloris Leachman too !!!

DisneyFan97 wrote:I was just hoping for something more fantasy based, But on the bright side isn't another talking Animal comedy(which we get tons of from other studios. So that's good !

Yeah, this. But in regards to what UmbrellaFish said, this doesn’t really sound like a princess film, so for them to veer away from princess films after this would be a disappointment considering Frozen was the last one we really had? I was hoping this would be more along the lines of TP&TF, Tangled, and Frozen, but they nipped that in the bud immediately with that synopsis. I wanted a film with royalty, a prince, a nice dress (at least at the end), music, and so on. The working title being “Latina princess film” made me think that’s what we might be getting, but I guess not. At least the film will feature music and magic at least? I’m still looking forward to it, but I think Raya’s story sounds more interesting even though this one has the advantage of being a musical.

estefan wrote:Well, not really an official announcement. Disney hasn't said one word about this project nor have the trades said anything, so I'm still waiting for a reputable source to make an announcement before getting excited.

Whoops! Sorry...

rodrigo_ca wrote:Much more welcoming to my Brazilian eyes than something along the lines of Rio. Fantasy? In Brazil? AMAZING. The title sounds cute, too.

In Spanish one of the meanings of the word "encanto" is also enchantment or spell, is it the same in Portuguese, rodrigo_ca? If it is, maybe that's another hint that the movie is about magic and not about superheroes. Though, I think farerb is right and the fact that they mentioned "magical powers" and not "superpowers" already proves that. Anyway, regardless of what type of powers they are and what period the movie is set in, I personally find the concept interesting and I like the Brazilian setting. Part of Saludos Amigos and The Three Caballeros takes place there, but there hasn't been a WDAS film entirely set in Brazil.

estefan wrote:Disney hasn't said one word about this project nor have the trades said anything, so I'm still waiting for a reputable source to make an announcement before getting excited.

Yes, we'll have to wait for official confirmation to know for sure if this is true. I think it probably is, but Disney doesn't want to confirm it yet given that it's still early and the story could change.

DisneyFan97 wrote:

Avaitor wrote:I won't lie, the concept of the protagonist not having powers while her family does reminds me of a couple of recent popular anime with a similar concept, My Hero Academia and Black Clover.

The Concept sounds very much like the movie Sky High !

I knew it reminded me of something! You're right, it's very similar to Sky High! Though, it seems what the protagonist will lack here are magical powers instead of superpowers, and probably not many people remember that movie. I didn't know about those two anime titles before, but I've read their synopses on Wikipedia and their concepts sound similar too. However, in both cases, all or most of the population have magical powers, while here it seems it's only the main character's family who have them.

I really hope this has nothing to do with superheros. Maybe they are a family of sorcerers or magicians which would be cool. Maybe it will be about an indigenous family that live in the Amazon? Lots of interesting possibilities.

Looks like it's going to be officially announced any day now. Lin just teased it on Good Morning America! (Also, official clarification that the movie is in Colombia, not Brazil)

https://twitter.com/Lin_Manuel/status/1 ... 1003591680

Makes more sense with LMM involved that the film will be set in a Spanish-speaking country.

I wonder what kind of Latino Americans or any person of Spanish/Latin descent will Disney cast for this. I would love love love to see Rachel Zegler (Puerto Rican) to be the lead in this!! I already can't wait to see her as Maria.

Colombia??

Don´t get me wrong, I´ve got nothing against Colombia. But I just can´t see how magic is perceivable with that nation. So it means that it´s going to be a modern setting.

Lol I thought DisInsider might get the title wrong, but the whole country???

I feel sorry for any Brazilian people who got excited about a Disney film set in their country.