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Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:41 am
by estefan
thelittleursula wrote:The Blu-ray opens with trailers for The Little Mermaid 3D, Monsters University, and Planes, followed by a Pinocchio anti-smoking PSA.
My DVD of Pinocchio also opens with that ad. Really redundant, when the movie itself has a scene that shows the dangers of smoking.

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:09 pm
by toplaycool22
The Hunchback of Notre Dame is released so late because the film is not popular. It has a fan base, but not as strong as Lion King or Beauty and the Beast. People may say "oh it will be part of the Disney classic collection or diamond edition someday" Probably not since critically, it is rather mixed since Disney did not handle mixing Victor Hugo's themes and the Disney cliches very well.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:44 am
by Marce82
GreatGreg:

Not sure what the super 8 thing in mono has to do with anything. Actually, many walt-era films include the mono track to please purist who dont want the tampered...ahem... converted track into surround....

As for image quality: quite simple. Take your beloved HD image, and blow it up to the size of a movie theater screen...see how good it looks. THen compare that to the image quality from FILM in the same size....

And Swillie. Of course im serious. Im not that big on image quality, so I dont have a projector... nor do I want a blu ray player. But I do know serious film collectors, and their collections are in film reels.... they dont run to best buy to buy the latest home-video gadget the industry jams down their throat....

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:03 am
by Vlad
I have mixed opinions about this title. I read the review, and the only element that was praised was the picture quality of the original. I saw the screencaps, and they do look very nice, but I gotta say, I'm awfully disapointed about the bonus features. I really don't know if it's worth buyinf just because of the restoration. I am not even remotely interested in the sequel (it falls in the category of really bad sequels, along with Cinderella II and Pocahontas II), so yeah, this is a real dilemma.

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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:07 am
by GreatGreg
I invite you and your antiquated friends to visit a local Best Buy or Fry's Electronics to see what modern technology is capable of.

I really don't want to get into this discussion because I am skeptical that you are serious about using film as a home video format not to mention the technical and financial drawbacks of the medium.

The arguments you present are simply uneducated responses.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:26 am
by SWillie!
Marce82 wrote:And Swillie. Of course im serious. Im not that big on image quality, so I dont have a projector... nor do I want a blu ray player. But I do know serious film collectors, and their collections are in film reels.... they dont run to best buy to buy the latest home-video gadget the industry jams down their throat....
So, what happens when a newer film is not available as a film strip, and is only available digitally? Then it's not considered a "real" film? :roll:

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:12 am
by Disney_freak
Sicoe6256 wrote:I have mixed opinions about this title. I read the review, and the only element that was praised was the picture quality of the original. I saw the screencaps, and they do look very nice, but I gotta say, I'm awfully disapointed about the bonus features. I really don't know if it's worth buyinf just because of the restoration. I am not even remotely interested in the sequel (it falls in the category of really bad sequels, along with Cinderella II and Pocahontas II), so yeah, this is a real dilemma.

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It is true, the sequel is horrible. The bonus features are lacking a lot too. On the contrary if you like this film and you watch it enough its definitely worth it. The DVD's picture was so horrid, this should be the biggest difference Disney has ever made between formats.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:09 pm
by Marce82
GreatGreg: Could you be more condescending? Or arrogant?

Im not advocating for film to be used as the general format for home video. I am saying that this is what collectors use... and maybe something arrogant people who wont shut up about "picture quality" in HD might want to consider...

I actually find your views uneducated. Its like thinking CDs or MP3s have better audio quality than a vinyl record. Anyone who has compared the two mediums from a good player knows the truth.

In the meantime, I invite you to go to yr local Best Buy, and buy whatever crap the industry tells you to buy, and spit out whatever crappy, promotional info they made you believe.

SWillie: most films are still transferred on to reels these days for mass distribution. But a collector would probably be faithful to a films original format: if something was shot digitally and exhibited that way in their original theater run, collectors would probably want that.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:11 pm
by Vlad
Disney_freak wrote:
It is true, the sequel is horrible. The bonus features are lacking a lot too. On the contrary if you like this film and you watch it enough its definitely worth it. The DVD's picture was so horrid, this should be the biggest difference Disney has ever made between formats.
Yeah, the DVD was quite horrid in terms of picture quality. I also saw some screencaps on Bluray.com, and some sequences from the restored film on YouTube. I already ordered the German version from Amazon.de Luckily, it comes with no sequel.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:22 pm
by thelittleursula
ProfessorRatigan wrote:I don't see why anyone would want to skip this. From what I understand, the transfer is straight from the CAPS files. The improvement from the atrocious picture quality of the DVD alone is worth the purchase.

Plus, I fear if this doesn't sell very well, Disney will continue to assume Hunchback is unpopular and never give it a chance again in the future. Or any merchandise, etc.
This.

Though since the update is lacking, the chances of it all of a sudden becoming popular enough to gain it a chance in the future is small.

Which is sad, because it is a wonderful movie.

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:59 pm
by Barbossa
Would've been nice to have digital copies with these new releases that came out today; Hunchback, Brother Bear, Mulan, but sadly no.

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:57 pm
by DisneyJedi
Hey, um... Anyone mind doing a VHS-DVD-Blu-ray comparison thing please? I know the Blu-ray has more depth than the DVD (knew it, technically, after seeing the clips on IMDB months ago).

So.... Comparison, if you please?

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Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:21 pm
by The_Iceflash
PatrickvD wrote:
gardener14 wrote:^My understanding of Luke's revies is that they used the old dvds right down to the old previews, but with gray top surfaces
As in... coming soon: Treasure Planet! :lol:
and Coming Soon To Video and DVD. rotfl

On the bright side, I never owned or watched the Hunchback DVD. I last owned it on VHS. Now I can say I have the Hunchback Gold Collection DVD! :D The picture is kinda crappy on it though. The menu looks awful as well. I was shocked at how bad it looked.

Re: Hunchback finally being released!!

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:28 pm
by Disney_freak
Another bonus to having the old DVD is that the bonus features that are not featured on the blu-ray, are featured on the DVD because they were both 1 disc DVDs.