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Dr Frankenollie wrote:I've just noticed - you have two different films with the same ranking. You'll have to edit your list.

I've already contacted Prince Edward a couple of days ago and this was all rectified through PM.


I'll be adding the new votes tomorrow, but keep em coming, people!

The more votes, the better!

Khonnor wrote:I've already contacted Prince Edward a couple of days ago and this was all rectified through PM.

Righty-o.

Prince Edward wrote:1. Sleeping Beauty
2. Beauty and the Beast
3. Aladdin
4. The Little Mermaid
5. Pocahontas
5. The Hunchback of Notre Dame
6. Hercules
7. Cinderella
8. Alice in Wonderland
9. Mulan
10. Tarzan
11. Tangled
12. Peter Pan
13. Pinocchio
14. Bambi
15. The Emperor's New Groove
16. Treasure Planet
17. Robin Hood
18. Lady and the Tramp
19. Bolt
20. Winnie the Pooh (2011)

(Almost made it: The Lion King, The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, The Princess and the Frog. Perhaps some of them still will if I change my vote before the voting ends...)

Final list:
1. Sleeping Beauty
2. Beauty and the Beast
3. Aladdin
4. The Little Mermaid
5. Pocahontas
6. The Hunchback of Notre Dame
7. Hercules
8. Cinderella
9. Alice in Wonderland
10. Mulan
11. Tarzan
12. Tangled
13. Peter Pan
14. Pinocchio
15. Bambi
16. The Emperor's New Groove
17. Treasure Planet
18. Robin Hood
19. Lady and the Tramp
20. Bolt

Since I made a mistake and voted for 21 movies instead of 20, Winnie the Pooh (2011) loses my vote; )

1. The Little Mermaid
2. Sleeping Beauty
3. Tangled
4. Aladdin
5. Beauty and the Beast
6. The Lion King
7. Cinderella
8. The Black Cauldron
9. The Princess and the Frog
10. Pocahontas
11. Alice in Wonderland
12. The Hunchback of Notre Dame
13. Hercules
14. Peter Pan
15. The Rescuers
16. 101 Dalmatians
17. The Sword in the Stone
18. Mulan
19. The Emperor's New Groove
20. The Great Mouse Detective

1. The Lion King
2. Pocahontas
3. Mulan
4. Beauty and the Beast
5. Tangled
6. 101 Dalmatians
7. The Princess and the Frog
8. Pinocchio
9. Peter Pan
10. Aladdin
11. Fantasia
12. The Little Mermaid
13. Winnie the Pooh
14. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
15. Hercules
16. Lady and the Tramp
17. Atlantis: The Lost Empire
18. Cinderella
19. Bolt
20. Lilo & Stitch

Dr Frankenollie wrote:Here is my list, which has been slightly tweaked based on what I've gathered from the other lists (e.g. if something like my original #18 hasn't got many other votes, then I'll put it higher), and as some films are proving to be partially overrated, I've put some lower on the list than I otherwise would have. In some ways, this list is an uneven mixture of what DACs are my favourites, and what I consider to be the greatest.

That's an interesting way of doing it. Kinda cheating (:P) and it's supposed to be your favorites in the order they're your favorite, I thought, but you can do it however. I find it weird that if this is to include your favorites but also the ones you think are the greatest, and you usually seem to provide reasons why your favorites are also the greatest...some of your choices puzzle me.

Dr Frankenollie wrote:Where are the lists of UD's Big Three (Goliath, Lazario and Disney Duster)?

Uh, thanks, you can make it the big four, too, but is that the only time you've called us that?

This is so fun! And I love looking at other people's lists! Except when they don't have my most favorite film... : (

1. Cinderella 1950
2. The Little Mermaid 1989
3. Sleeping Beauty 1959
4. Rapunzel 2010
5. Pinocchio 1940
6. Bambi 1942
7. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs 1937
8. Fantasia 1940
9. The Black Cauldron 1985
10. The Hunchback of Notre Dame 1996
11. Hercules 1997
12. The Emperor's New Groove 2000
13. Beauty and the Beast 1991
14. Peter Pan 1953
15. The Great Mouse Detective 1986
16. Alice in Wonderland 1951
17. The Princess And The Frog 2009
18. Aladdin 1992
19. The Rescuers Down Under 1990
20. The Lion King 1994

Disney Duster wrote:That's an interesting way of doing it. Kinda cheating (:P) and it's supposed to be your favorites in the order they're your favorite, I thought, but you can do it however. I find it weird that if this is to include your favorites but also the ones you think are the greatest, and you usually seem to provide reasons why your favorites are also the greatest...some of your choices puzzle me.

Yeah, it could be seen as cheating, but it technically isn't breaking any of the rules. My favourites and the films I consider the greatest often cross over, but they're not always the same. In the case of the DACs for example, my favourite is probably Dumbo, but I think Fantasia is the greater film; nonetheless, Dumbo is the second greatest DAC. Similarly, The Little Mermaid is a better film than Aladdin, but I find Aladdin slightly more enjoyable.

Why do some of my choices puzzle you? I can justify all of them.

Disney Duster wrote:Uh, thanks, you can make it the big four, too, but is that the only time you've called us that?

Yes, it's the only time I've called the three of you that; it just appears that you three are the most frequent/entertaining/notorious members here.

Disney Duster wrote:4. Tangled 2010

I thought you disliked Tangled for lacking the 'Disney Essence'?

Dr Frankenollie wrote:

Disney Duster wrote:4. Tangled 2010

I thought you disliked Tangled for lacking the 'Disney Essence'?

Yeah, what the hell is that!?! Not too long ago we talked about how Tangled may have caused you to loose complete faith in Disney as a whole. You even just stated that today (or yesterday) in another thread.

I mean, this list is completely up to you and I'm in no way saying you're wrong... it's just that this seems to contradict most things you've been saying about Tangled for years.

I'm surprised at the surprise ( ) over Duster's ranking. It's always been clear he likes Tangled. He tries to "fix" it because he likes it.

Most of the ranking doesn't shock me. The Fab Four, of course, are winning. I'm shocked to see Aladdin winning though (from the public votes, maybe the PMs show a different story). Of course, some are over-ranked/under-ranked to me, but that's to be expected.

Yea, the reason that I'm so bothered by Tangled is it has stuff I like in it and I feel it has half the Disney Essence back that we hadn't had in a long time...but it is ruined by other things. I still don't own it. I'm trying to buy a version titled Rapunzel though.

Hehe, after editing my post now technically I didn't vote for Tangled...

Dr. Frankenollie, I'm glad you kept Dumbo first then. Your puzzling choices would be The Jungle Book, The Rescuers, The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr Toad, The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, The Great Mouse Detective, Alice in Wonderland, The Sword in the Stone, and The Three Caballeros OVER other films from the Disney canon. Those films aren't bad, I just mean in relation to the other films you could have picked or placed higher. It only makes sense to me in that they're your favorites. I also don't quite get why you and Goliath have The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh because you two don't seem like to like such heartwarming cuddly stuff.

1. Sleeping Beauty
2. The Great Mouse Detective
3. The Black Cauldron
4. One Hundred and One Dalmatians
5. Cinderella
6. Alice in Wonderland
7. The Rescuers
8. The Little Mermaid
9. Lady and the Tramp
10. The Sword in the Stone
11. The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad
12. The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
13. The Emperor's New Groove
14. Lilo and Stitch
15. Tangled
16. Treasure Planet
17. Fun and Fancy Free
18. Bambi
19. The Hunchback of Notre Dame
20. The Rescuers Down Under

Disney Duster wrote:Dr. Frankenollie, I'm glad you kept Dumbo first then. Your puzzling choices would be The Jungle Book, The Rescuers, The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr Toad, The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, The Great Mouse Detective, Alice in Wonderland, The Sword in the Stone, and The Three Caballeros OVER other films from the Disney canon. Those films aren't bad, I just mean in relation to the other films you could have picked or placed higher. It only makes sense to me in that they're your favorites.

I don't get why the choices you mention are puzzling. You say in relation to other films; what films have I neglected? Bambi is style over substance (although I still respect its animation and really like parts of it); Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King appear to be overrated on this forum, so I excluded them because I think other films deserve more votes; I haven't seen Mulan and Tarzan in full for some time so I can't accurately judge them; while I like Cinderella, I think its extreme amount of filler partially spoils it; and 101 Dalmatians is somewhat overrated.

In defence of the films you mentioned: The Rescuers is one of the most touching DACs and it has some of Disney's most well-developed characters and beautiful songs; The Jungle Book is a lively, well-animated film with great songs and an interesting philosophical side, showing us the pros and cons of different lifestyles in highly inventive ways; Ichabod & Mr Toad's two halves may not fit that well together, but the film (along with the other package DACs) is underrated, and I think it features some of Disney's most amusing, frightening and suspenseful sequences ever; Winnie the Pooh is a uniquely innocent, hilarious film with great characters; Great Mouse Detective is witty, exiting and features one of Disney's best villains; Alice in Wonderland arguably lacks heart but is full of great animation, music and great comedic characters (and if it is more-or-less a comedy, since when do comedies require 'heart'?); Sword in the Stone suffers from lazy and forgettable designs, but manages to delight, excite and features a great villianess and some memorable songs; and Three Caballeros, while being uneven in parts, is one of Disney's funniest films.

Perhaps Three Caballeros, Sword in the Stone and even Alice in Wonderland aren't as good as the aforementioned films I neglected, but all three are quite underrated and they deserve more recognition (hence why I included them on my list).

Disney Duster wrote:I also don't quite get why you and Goliath have The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh because you two don't seem like to like such heartwarming cuddly stuff.

I don't know about Goliath, but when it's done well, I love heartwarming cuddly stuff. Winnie the Pooh does it well, with charming characterisation, innocent yet hilarious dialogue/gags, and a couple of surprisingly bittersweet scenes. Also, the surreal "Heffaloomps & Woozles" scene is no "Pink Elephants on Parade", but is a terrific mixture of dazzling animation and entertaining music nonetheless.

Disney Duster wrote:4. Rapunzel 2010

What the f--- ????!!!!

This makes as much sense as it would if I had put Home on the Range at no. 1.

Disney Duster wrote:I also don't quite get why you and Goliath have The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh because you two don't seem like to like such heartwarming cuddly stuff

Oh? Would I be a fan of Disney's if I didn't like "heartwarming cuddly stuff"? Most Disney films contain that in one form or another. The original Winnie the Pooh shorts (Honey Tree and Blustery Day) are just so wonderful because of the rich characterizations (especially Winnie and Rabbit) and the many memorable, delightful songs, which are among the best Disney have ever done. And even the 'Heffalumps and Weezles' sequence alone makes it deserving of a spot in the Top 20.

Oh, and The Rescuers should be in everybody's top 10. The only thing I am disappointed in, is that vastly overrated films like Beauty and the Beast and Lion King end up in place 1-5 so often.

Dr Frankenollie wrote:

Disney Duster wrote:Uh, thanks, you can make it the big four, too, but is that the only time you've called us that?

Yes, it's the only time I've called the three of you that; it just appears that you three are the most frequent/entertaining/notorious members here.

i'm not entertaining to you?



btw duster, are you going respond to my pm?

Super Aurora wrote:i'm not entertaining to you?

You can be...

You, Disney's Divinity and enigmawing could make it the Sensational Six.

Disney Duster wrote:4. Rapunzel 2010

Disney Duster wrote:

Dr Frankenollie wrote:Here is my list, which has been slightly tweaked based on what I've gathered from the other lists (e.g. if something like my original #18 hasn't got many other votes, then I'll put it higher), and as some films are proving to be partially overrated, I've put some lower on the list than I otherwise would have. In some ways, this list is an uneven mixture of what DACs are my favourites, and what I consider to be the greatest.

That's an interesting way of doing it. Kinda cheating.

I wouldn't say it's cheating, but it is quite restrained

Disney Duster wrote:I also don't quite get why you and Goliath have The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh because you two don't seem like to like such heartwarming cuddly stuff.

I'd say that most of the DACs are heartwarming, but there's something to be said for Pooh's innocence and vibrancy

Goliath wrote:The Rescuers should be in everybody's top 10. The only thing I am disappointed in, is that vastly overrated films like Beauty and the Beast and Lion King end up in place 1-5 so often.

Well Beauty and the Beast is in my top five, but The Rescuers is in my top ten, and The Lion King isn't on my list

Okay, I'm not sure if I'm completely happy with this. There are a few movies I haven't seen in a while and I probably won't get around to re-watching them before the end of the month and a few I don't have.

But anyway:

1 Beauty and the Beast
2 The Little Mermaid
3 Brother Bear
4 Tangled
5 The Princess and the Frog
6 Meet the Robinsons
7 Aladdin
8 The Fox and the Hound
9 Bolt
10 Treasure Planet
11 The Black Cauldron
12 Tarzan
13 The Lion King
14 The Sword in the Stone
15 Alice in Wonderland
16 Atlantis: The Lost Empire
17 Cinderella
18 Mulan
19 The Great Mouse Detective
20 The Rescuers

Just out of interest, are you going to evaluate the results by giving each rank a value (eg #1 is 20, #2 is 19, #20 is 1), then dividing each titles totaled values by the number of people who voted and the highest number wins (Title value / voters = winner). If you do do it this way and find that some have the same value (depending on whether they have been voted for et cetera), you could evaluate them with another system. For example, if there are three with the same value, which rank higher more often (Mode - X title was voted at #4 12 times, Y title only 10 times).

Also, are you doing this via a spread sheet? Done right and all you'll have to do is copy and paste the results, with the right formulas the spread sheet will do the work.

Now, now people...let's not "attack" each other's movie opinions. You can vote however way you want to. So far, there have been a few private votings...and it's still very interesting.

Although the Top 5 is not really a surprise...things might still change around, when more people will vote....so come on guys (and girls), keep m coming!

1) Aladdin
2) Pinocchio
3) The Lion King
4) Bambi
5) The Little Mermaid
6) Hercules
7) Alice in Wonderland
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
9) Meet The Robinsons
10) Peter Pan
11) mulan
12) Sleeping beauty
13) Beauty and the Beast
14) The Aristocats
15) Pocahontas
16) The Princess And The Frog
17)The Jungle Book
17) Bolt
19) Tangled
20) Tarzan

1. 101 Dalmatians
2. Lady and the Tramp
3. The Hunchback of Notre Dame
4. Tarzan
5. Hercules
6. Lilo and Stitch
7. Tangled
8. Beauty and the Beast
9. The Lion King
10. Bambi
11. Aladdin
12. The Little Mermaid
13. The Emperor's New Groove
14. Pocahontas
15. Fantasia 2000
16. Pinocchio
17. Sleeping Beauty
18. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
19. The Black Cauldron
20. The Rescuers