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I guess that it's now official that this movie have flopped at the wordlwide box office. No sequels, that's for sure, and Tron 3 is a victim as well.

"Tomorrowland took a nasty 58.2% drop off of last week for $13.8M over the three days and 3rd place. It's domestic cume is $63.1M. Overseas the film has opened in 88% of the available territories with just Brazil and Japan left and has $70M to show for it. That places Tomorrowland's worldwide cume at $133.2M, which is kind of a depressing turn of events for a film with such a hopeful message."
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4063&p=.htm

Oh my gosh where was the rest of this movie?

They didn't bother writing half the film. You can't try to show us an emotional farewell between a robot and a middle-aged man without showing us why we should care about that relationship.

This was really lazy writing on Brad Bird/Disney's behalf, and somewhat insulting if they thought they could get away with it.

Even the most obvious franchise film starts offers up a full movie, then sets up the sequel. Tomorrowland just wrote half the movie and left all the hard thinking for later.

I saw the movie today with my brothers and it is phenomenal, but really underrated.

By the way, please tell me I'm not he only one to notice these two things:

1) The fact they had "Walt Disney Pictures presents" at the start of the film (which is literally the first time they did that in four years)

2) The Iron Giant merchandise on one of the shelves in the 'Blast from the Past' store scene.

DisneyJedi wrote: By the way, please tell me I'm not he only one to notice these two things:

1) The fact they had "Walt Disney Pictures presents" at the start of the film (which is literally the first time they did that in four years)

2) The Iron Giant merchandise on one of the shelves in the 'Blast from the Past' store scene.

Nope, you're not the one. I smiled when I saw that at the beginning, along with "An A113 Production."

And that store was a wonderful compilation of Brad Bird's career. I also noticed The Incredibles action figures, Simpsons toys and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a Family Dog plush toy in there somewhere.

Disney Could Lose $140 Million on 'Tomorrowland' Flop
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/d ... ion-801244

"If you’ll remember, John Carter, from former Pixar director Andrew Stanton, initially had analysts predicting a loss between $100 and 150 million, though a later Disney earnings report put their loss at $84 million. Using that as the model it’s reasonable to believe Disney’s Tomorrowland loss won’t be as bad as people think it’s going to be right now, but also keep in mind that John Carter had the benefit of actually being pretty good, while Tomorrowland is exactly as crappy and pointless as everyone says."
http://uproxx.com/filmdrunk/2015/06/dis ... orrowland/

The movie was not so bad, though nothing memorable either.

Disney thinks hand-drawn films are too risky to make anymore, but they keep on dropping nine figures on sci-fi films that keep on tanking.

Ah well.

Avaitor wrote:Disney thinks hand-drawn films are too risky to make anymore, but they keep on dropping nine figures on sci-fi films that keep on tanking.

Ah well.

2009
The Princess & the Frog "2D Animation":
Domestic: $104,400,899 39.1%
+ Foreign: $162,644,866 60.9%
Worldwide: $267,045,765

2010
Tangled "CGI":
Domestic: $200,821,936 33.9%
+ Foreign: $390,973,000 66.1%
Worldwide: $591,794,936

If your a Disney Executive, what are you gonna invest in?

DisneyEra wrote:

Avaitor wrote:Disney thinks hand-drawn films are too risky to make anymore, but they keep on dropping nine figures on sci-fi films that keep on tanking.

Ah well.

2009
The Princess & the Frog "2D Animation":
Domestic: $104,400,899 39.1%
+ Foreign: $162,644,866 60.9%
Worldwide: $267,045,765

2010
Tangled "CGI":
Domestic: $200,821,936 33.9%
+ Foreign: $390,973,000 66.1%
Worldwide: $591,794,936

If your a Disney Executive, what are you gonna invest in?

Yes, but hand-drawn animated films aren't as expensive to make as CGI movies or big budget sci-fi films.

DisneyJedi wrote:

DisneyEra wrote: 2009
The Princess & the Frog "2D Animation":
Domestic: $104,400,899 39.1%
+ Foreign: $162,644,866 60.9%
Worldwide: $267,045,765

2010
Tangled "CGI":
Domestic: $200,821,936 33.9%
+ Foreign: $390,973,000 66.1%
Worldwide: $591,794,936

If your a Disney Executive, what are you gonna invest in?

Yes, but hand-drawn animated films aren't as expensive to make as CGI movies or big budget sci-fi films.

Your right. They can make new 2D animated features for like $30-$50 million & actually turn a profit but to the executives, that's not enough. They want features making $500 to a Billion! Since the end of the Renaissance, no 2D feature at WDAS has made over $300 million, the closest being Lilo & Stitch with $273 million. Also with Frozen & BH6 being the highest grossing animated features of their respected years & winning back to back Best Animated Feature Oscars, why would they go back to 2D? They've been on a roll with their CGI films post Tangled.

To me I wish this was the next 2D film from WDAS

But there is no way the executives would green light a 2D feature like this, even on the cheap in this post Frozen era. It wouldn't bring in enough $$$.

DisneyEra wrote:

Avaitor wrote:Disney thinks hand-drawn films are too risky to make anymore, but they keep on dropping nine figures on sci-fi films that keep on tanking.

Ah well.

2009
The Princess & the Frog "2D Animation":
Domestic: $104,400,899 39.1%
+ Foreign: $162,644,866 60.9%
Worldwide: $267,045,765

2010
Tangled "CGI":
Domestic: $200,821,936 33.9%
+ Foreign: $390,973,000 66.1%
Worldwide: $591,794,936

If your a Disney Executive, what are you gonna invest in?

Not another Tomorrowland or John Carter.

So Disney won't invest in hand drawn films (which are very inexpensive if done right and could easily turn a profit) because they're "too risky", but they continue to make big budget sci-fi/action films that are even riskier and hardly ever make back their budget.

No offense, but I think Disney is being very hypocritical.

DisneyJedi wrote:So Disney won't invest in hand drawn films (which are very inexpensive if done right and could easily turn a profit) because they're "too risky", but they continue to make big budget sci-fi/action films that are even riskier and hardly ever make back their budget.

No offense, but I think Disney is being very hypocritical.

I know right?

DisneyEra wrote:
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But there is no way the executives would green light a 2D feature like this, even on the cheap in this post Frozen era. It wouldn't bring in enough $$$.

Whoa! I'd go see that movie!

Press release (and the Blu-ray is jam-packed!!!):

https://www.facebook.com/dvdnewsflash/p ... 00816775:0

"Disney Invites You to a World of Epic Adventure and Imagination

TOMORROWLAND

From the Director of “The Incredibles,” Blast Off with this Family Adventure on Blu-ray™ Combo Pack, Digital HD and Disney Movies Anywhere (DMA) October 13

With Exclusive Bonus Including Deleted Scenes, Casting Tomorrowland, Brad Bird Production Diaries, and More

SYNOPSIS: Dreamers Wanted…Disney invites you to an incredible world of epic imagination where anything is possible. Buckle your seat belt, as the director of The Incredibles takes your family on an action-packed thrill ride.

Join former boy genius Frank (George Clooney), optimistic, science-minded teen Casey (Britt Robertson), mysterious Athena (Raffey Cassidy) and the brilliant David Nix (Hugh Laurie) in a world of pure Disney imagination. Tomorrowland transports you on an inspiring and magical journey of wonder and adventure to a place where if you can dream it, you can do it.

CAST: George Clooney as Frank Walker (“Gravity,” “Up in the Air”), Britt Robertson as Casey Newton (“The First Time,” “The Longest Ride”), Raffey Cassidy as Athena (“Snow White and the Huntsman,” “Dark Shadows”), Hugh Laurie as Nix (“Monsters vs. Aliens,” TV’s “House M.D.”), Tim McGraw as Eddie Newton (“The Blind Side”)

PRODUCERS: Brad Bird (“The Incredibles,” “Ratatouille”), Jeffrey Chernov (“Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol,” “Star Trek Into Darkness”), Damon Lindelof (TV’s “Lost,” “Star Trek Into Darkness”)

DIRECTOR: Brad Bird

WRITERS: Screenplay by Damon Lindelof and Brad Bird; Story by Damon Lindelof, Brad Bird & Jeff Jensen

RELEASE DATE: October 13, 2015

PRODUCTS: Digital HD/SD, Disney Movies Anywhere (DMA), Blu-ray Combo Pack, DVD and On-Demand

BONUS: Digital HD/SD*, Blu-ray Combo Pack & Disney Movies Anywhere (DMA)

· Remembering the Future: A Personal Journey Through Tomorrowland with Brad Bird

Discover everything there is to know about the making of Tomorrowland through Director Brad Bird's perspective.

· Casting Tomorrowland

Join Brad Bird, Damon Lindelof, George Clooney, Hugh Laurie, Britt Robertson, and Raffey Cassidy as they discuss the making of Tomorrowland.

· A Great Big Beautiful Scoring Session

Famed composer Michael Giacchino invites Disney legend, Richard Sherman to join him in an informal visit to the Tomorrowland scoring stage, told through the personal lens of Michael’s brother, documentarian Anthony Giacchino.

· The World of Tomorrow Science Hour - Hosted By Futurologist David Nix (Blu-ray and DMA Exclusive)

Believe it or not but Nix used to host a children’s television program about science. Now watch the recently discover outtakes from the show.

· Animated Short: The Origins of Plus Ultra

An animated story of how Tomorrowland came to be.

· Brad Bird Production Diaries

Diary Entry #1 – “The First Day” (Blu-ray and DMA Exclusive)

Diary Entry #2 – “Tomorrowland vs. the Weather” (DMA Exclusive)

Diary Entry #3 – “NASA”

· Blast from the Past Commercial

Go back in time and watch this original commercial for the Blast from the Past store.

· Deleted Scenes with Filmmaker Intro

Deleted Scene 1 - Joking on the Eiffel Tower

Deleted Scene 2 - Young Casey vs. The Volcano

Deleted Scene 3 - Doomsday Living Room

Deleted Scene 4 - As Originally Written Casey The Downer

Deleted Scene 5 - What Happened to Tomorrowland

Deleted Scene 6 - What is Tomorrowland

Deleted Scene 7 - Great Big Beautiful World World’s Fair (DMA Exclusive)

Deleted Scene 8 - Frank Walker age 10 (DMA Exclusive)

· 4 Easter Eggs

*Digital bonus offerings may vary by retailer

DVD:

· Brad Bird Production Diaries

Diary Entry #3 – “NASA”

· Blast from the Past Commercial
Go back in time and watch this original commercial for the Blast from the Past store.

FEATURE RUN TIME: Approximately 130 min.

RATING: Feature Film: PG in U.S.; PG in CE; in CF

ASPECT RATIO: Blu-ray Feature Film = 1080p High Definition / 2.20:1
DVD Feature Film = 2.20:1

AUDIO: Blu-ray = 7.1 DTS

DVD = 5.1 Dolby

LANGUAGES: English, French & Spanish
SUBTITLES: English SDH, French & Spanish"

Absolutely ridiculous how hard they're pushing DMA on this. Especially with putting all the World's Fair related deleted material as digital exclusives.

BRAD BIRD DISCUSSES TOMORROWLAND BACKLASH, THE NEED FOR POSITIVE FUTURES
http://nerdist.com/brad-bird-discusses- ... e-futures/
[via AnimatedViews.com]

I just rewatched this in the comfort of my own home, and I finally figured out what's "off" to me about this film. Before, I, like Brad Bird, simply shrugged off most tof the film's critics as cynical people who missed the point of the film's message completely. However after watching it with a more focused mind and thinking about the plot some more, I realized how poorly the conflict was handled. The conflict shouldn't be this black-and-white. Hugh Laurie and George Clooney--I mean Nix and Frank--have very negative outlooks towards the world, yet only one of them is treated like the villain. Frank is spared because Casey and Athena inspire him to change and save the world. Meanwhile, Nix is treated like a stereotypical Disney villain despite having the same reasons as Frank to be cynical. Sure, Nix could have tried to help people when the world was going to end, but that's a redeemable decision to make when all hope seems to be lost. You shouldn't murder someone for being cynical in a Disney film targeted at children. That's no way to solve a problem that could easily be overcome with a few persuasive words towards Nix. I was expecting Casey to try to kindly talk to him after he got crushed, at least. But, nothing happened. No redemption or even an "I'm sorry for losing hope".

This is a movie that's supposed to teach the next generation about optimism and change. They should have shown that change can even happen in hopeless, seemingly-irredeemable places, like Nix's character.

I tried watching this film last week, but.... and I actually never do this, I turned it off. I found it to be completely unwatchable. The whole style of the film felt off.... as if the movie was in on something... and I was just missing it.

The acting, writing, the stakes, nothing felt genuine or thrilling. An epic misfire in my opinion. I turned it off right after a bunch of policemen were needlessly killed off. Such unnecessary violence in a movie that overall feels so childish.

Pirates remains an anomaly when it comes to live-action adaptation of Disneyland rides. I'd throw Tomorrowland on the pile of The Haunted Mansion and The Country Bears.

And I like Brad Bird. Let's hope the experience has humbled him a bit. He came across incredibly cocky in recent years.

Blu-ray.com review for Tomorrowland: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Tomorrowl ... 21/#Review

And DVDizzy.com's review: http://www.dvdizzy.com/tomorrowland-2015.html