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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 8:54 pm
by Starion
I love the cover art too! The colors are pretty.
DisneyStore.com is now taking pre-orders for the Brother Bear DVD and VHS. Disney is offering four nice lithographs, a collectible pin and a Rutt & Tuke Mini plush. The pin features Koda sitting on the ground. I wish Disney would offer a Kenai and Koda plush instead.
I like the lithographs.
The first features Rutt and Tuke, the second: Kenai and his two brothers, the third: Kenai and Koda in front of a waterfall. Koda is holding a salmon. The last lithograph shows Koda talking to Kenai. The artwork is well done. The colors in the lithograph look bright and sharp.
I'm guessing that the local Disney stores will take pre-orders of Brother Bear after The Lion King 1 1/2 or Spy Kids 3-D: Game Over are out.
Link:
http://disney.store.go.com/DSSectionPag ... _Id=155145
Later
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 9:04 pm
by Mermaid Kelly
OOOOH

cool! thanks!!!!!!!

I love those lithos!
I agree though, a Kenai and Koda plush would have been better, oh well!
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 9:42 pm
by goofystitch
I just pre-ordered my copy through Disneystore.com and decided to get the set with the plushes and pin. I am a huge Disney Pin collector, but this pin is a bit disapointing. It's so plain looking. I wish they would have done it better, like the pins that came with "Finding Nemo" and "Sleeping Beauty." I, personally, am glad that the plushes are Rutt and Tucke. They where my two favorite characters from the film.
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 2:52 pm
by Mermaid Kelly
I am still undecided whether or not to get the plushes and pin.
I don't know!

Arrgh!
Oh well, I'll decide in the next few days

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:59 pm
by Joe Carioca
Good news, people! "Brother Bear" will be seen on DVD the same way it was seen in theaters. There is a paragraph in the official home page which says: The original theatrical presentation utilized two different aspect ratios. The film opens here in 1.85:1 then transitions to 2.35:1.
I'm very glad they are keeping the integrity of the movie! In theaters, the effect was wonderful. Of course it won't be the same on TV, but the spectator will get the idea.
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:48 pm
by Joe Carioca
It seems Disney did the right way and windowboxed the picture, to aproximate the thatrical experience. There is a screen before the movie starts which states:
<img src="
http://home.comcast.net/~rasalas/bear1.jpg" width="612" height="344">
Visit
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum ... genumber=2
for some nice screen caps.

CAN'T WAIT!!!

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:51 pm
by AwallaceUNC
I haven't yet seen BB. How is this going to look on a widescreen TV?
-Aaron
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:51 pm
by 2099net
OK then Joe. I've got my hat and humble pie ready. Can I at least put some spicy sauce on before eating them?
Excellent news

and I'm shocked Disney would do this (but delighted)
Actually, this is making me wonder if the UK with the single disc, will get the 2.25 transfer or not?

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:58 pm
by Joe Carioca
2099net wrote:OK then Joe. I've got my hat and humble pie ready. Can I at least put some spicy sauce on before eating them?
As you wish, Netty!
Well, it will look like this on a widescreen TV:
First 24 minutes (windowboxed and letterboxed):
<img src="
http://home.comcast.net/~rasalas/bear2.jpg" width="612" height="344">
After the "transformation" scene:
<img src="
http://home.comcast.net/~rasalas/bear4.jpg" width="612" height="344">
On regular TV sets, the top and bottom bars will be bigger. The side bars will remain the same.
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:18 pm
by MickeyMousePal
Great pictures!
I can't wait to get it on March 30.
Just three more weeks!

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:20 pm
by PatrickvD
wow, that sounds great! and looks great too. The idea will be nicely preserved this way

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:33 pm
by Mermaid Kelly
interesting........I don't know what to think of this.....well first of all, don't Disney dvds come in anamorphic widescreen (the one where the bars are not so big on a normal tv)? And also, this bar around the whole thing will really shrink the picture.

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:40 pm
by Eeyore
Mermaid Kelly wrote:interesting........I don't know what to think of this.....well first of all, don't Disney dvds come in anamorphic widescreen (the one where the bars are not so big on a normal tv)? And also, this bar around the whole thing will really shrink the picture.

This is a *good* thing. Don't complain, you're seeing the movie the way it was meant to be.
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:51 pm
by Loomis
Joe Carioca wrote:2099net wrote:OK then Joe. I've got my hat and humble pie ready. Can I at least put some spicy sauce on before eating them?
As you wish, Netty!
Well, it will look like this on a widescreen TV:
First 24 minutes (windowboxed and letterboxed):
That is fantastic, Joe! Exactly what I was hoping for in this release. Makes up for the lack of a commentary

(Well, one with humans anyways).
And it is always nice to see 2099net eating humble pie.
Mmm.....pie.
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:18 pm
by becko
I'm really glad to hear this, because as ashamed as I am to admit this, I didn't get the chance to see this in theatres, so I'm happy this effect will be preserved on DVD. Its also a sign to me that at least 1 person at Disney knows what they are doing, it gives me hope for future releases.
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:30 pm
by Joe Carioca
Well, that is why they are using two discs... if you want the un-original version minus big black bars, just pop up the first disc.
Besides, the producers were surely involved in the making of the disc, and they wouldn't let Disney do anything bad with it.
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:38 pm
by Joe Carioca
Mermaid Kelly wrote:interesting........I don't know what to think of this.....well first of all, don't Disney dvds come in anamorphic widescreen (the one where the bars are not so big on a normal tv)? And also, this bar around the whole thing will really shrink the picture.

Actually, anamorphic widescreen serves to shrink the bars (or completely desapear with them) on widescreen TV sets. If you have a regular 4:3, you will see the big bars - but if you select the "16:9 widescreen" option on your DVD player set up, the picture will look streched.
Besides, if you don't want big black bars around the picture, the first disc will have a pan-and-scan version of the movie - but you must know it isn't the original version and that you will loose a good deal of the picture. Here are two screen caps comparing both versions:
Original version - 2.35:1 aspect ratio (disc 2)
<img src="
http://home.comcast.net/~rasalas/bear7.jpg" width="612" height="344">
Pan-and-scan modified version - 1.66:1 aspect ratio (disc 1)
<img src="
http://home.comcast.net/~rasalas/bear8.jpg" width="612" height="344">
Hope it helps.

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:18 pm
by Squirrel
I'm glad they'll preserve the theatrical aspect ratio. And those pictures do look great. I can't wait for the DVD!

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:54 pm
by yoda_four
I for one am sticking to the OAR, cause that zoom on the Pan&Scan version is harsh! Hopefully Home on the Range DVD will be given the same quality and care as Brother Bear got. Glad to see Disney doing something right!

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 8:47 pm
by Ballzo
I have yet to see, but why is this movie presented in window and letter box. Could somone please explain. Luke said something to the effect that "there is no way to preserve the original aspect ratio" How did they do it in the theatres?