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Prudence wrote:
True, but how is this funny?

"Knock, knock."
"Who's there?"
"Nobody."
"Nobody who?"
-absolute silence, since it's "nobody."-

That's hilarious!
I can laugh at anything (in elementary school and middle school, a kid, who knew that I'd laugh at anything, used to say "Tom Ato ate a tomato", and I thought it was funny).

Just like there is no end to you

Lazario wrote:

memnv wrote:stop your dam winning already

?

It's quite obvious to me. You either win a lot in dam-making contests or in some card game called "dam", and memnv is tired if!

memnv wrote:So I am curious what movie is Blades of Glory the same as

Every other comedy in which two people who hate-or-have-little-to-no-respect-for each other must team up to accomplish a goal and realize they can at least tolerate the other to reach the goal. Then, over time, they find they like each other and become good friends. And in the romantic-comedy formula of this plot, they naturally decide to have sex and become a couple.

From the last 20 years, movies with that type of plot:
Dirty Dancing - Johnny and Baby initially don't care for each other, but Baby volunteers to learn Penny's dance moves for a dance thing at a hotel. The two argue and fight, but eventually grow to like and love each other.

Newsies - David and his brother Les become Newsies to help bring money to the family. Jack Kelly and his gang are Newsies because that's all they have in life. When Pulizter decides to charge the Newsies more for the papers they sell, David and Jack must work together with Newsies throughout New York City to protest and strike. They end up friends and Jack considers them his family.

Toy Story - Woody's jealous and doesn't care for Buzz, but when they are lost and end up at Sid's, they have to work together (and with Sid's toys) to get back to Andy. And, of course, they become buddy-buddy.

One Fine Day - When Melanie's son and Jack's daughter miss a class field trip, the two decide to take turns watching them, while attempting to do their jobs at the same time. Over that "one fine day", they grow to like each other.

Mulan - Mulan joins the army as a man so her father doesn't have to. She becomes a great soldier, earning the respect and friendship of fellow soldiers and her captain, all of whom did not like her before. And, of course, when she's a woman again, she and Shang get together.

The Emperor's New Groove - Kuzco is a self-centered king who decides he'll destroy Pacha's village to make way for a water park. When Yzma turns him into a llama and he ends up at Pacha's home, the two must venture back to the palace to turn him back into a human. And of course, they become friends.

Remember the Titans - black football players and white football players in Virginia must learn to work together as a team to win games, and over the course of training camp, they grow to like each other as friends.

Legally Blonde - Elle Woods decides to chase after her ex-boyfriend Warner, and applies to Harvard to become a lawyer. She makes it in, and nearly no one takes her seriously, especially Vivian, Warner's new girlfriend. When Elle, Warner, Vivian, and a few others become interns (I think) for another lawyer and represent a client charged with murder, Elle and Vivian eventually find some common ground, and they become friends.

Shrek - Shrek finds himself stuck with Donkey, they go on some quest to rescue Princess Fiona, by the end of the picture, they're all happy happy joy joy together, and Donkey even has a lady dragon friend.

Freaky Friday - mother Tess and daughter Anna disagree and argue on everything. But when they switch bodies, they must learn to tolerate/understand/like and be each other in order to switch back.

The Family Stone - Meredith Morton is immediately not well-liked by the Stones, and she doesn't seem to have a soft spot for them either. But she's engaged to oldest son Everett, and they have to spend a Christmas together. They make it through, and both sides end up liking each other (though there's a bit of shuffling in who's marrying who).

Mr. and Mrs. Smith - a hitman and hitwoman marry each other as a cover, but when both find out the other's secret, they try and kill each other before realizing they do love each other. Then they gotta kill everyone else who's trying to kill them.

She's The Man - Viola pretends to be her brother Sebastian in order to join a rival soccer team and beat her school's soccer team. At first the school doesn't accept "Sebastian", but she/he quickly becomes popular and within the team, she/he becomes good friends with Duke. And when she/he is back to being just she, she and Duke get together.

Yours, Mine, and Ours - the North and Beardsley kids hate each other and hate that their parents decided to merge their families and get married. They first plot to break up the parents, but realize how much the parents love each other, and how much they've learned to like and love each other too.

Escapay

Escapay wrote:And in the romantic-comedy formula of this plot, they naturally decide to have sex and become a couple.

Hmm, I always wondered what Kuzco and Pacha did after the credits rolled!

Lazario wrote: Why would I? He's not.

I understand why a lot of people have that opinion. Most of his films don't require much acting ability; they're more goofy than anything. However, as I said before, he does a great job in Stranger than Fiction. I highly reccomend it if you haven't seen it yet.

But, of course, it's still all a matter of opinion.

Prince Ali wrote:Most of his films don't require much acting ability; they're more goofy than anything.

Oh, this isn't about "goofy." That's not the problem. Look at the characters! They're all exactly the same. Each and every one he plays in these "goofy" occupational comedies. Just with a slightly different accent, barely different dialog, and a different supporting cast. And the jokes are all exactly the same- one-liners that aren't insults to someone else but rather a joke about the person saying them, observational humor (the same observations! Every time), and sound effects. Someone has to say "enough already!" But it's not over. They're just going to keep coming and coming and coming.

But, of course, it's still all a matter of opinion.

Not when it's this obvious. Like "the sky's blue." Everyone who sees color and sees correctly sees a blue sky. Is that a matter of opinion? No it's not.

close minded as ever

Memnv - did I ask you what you thought?

Yet I did suggest that you QUIT invading my discussions with other people. Can you comprehend simple English?

Are you hard-headed? I think you are - so what right do you have to call me closed-minded?

Lazario, I am not here to fight with you, but again if you are in a forum everyone has the right to make comments, If you dont want people to comment talk about it in private. Also read Lukes post in the selective service thread about trying to make rules. Again I dont care what you think, I am not here to fight with you. BTW I lieke whatyou wrote in the Batman Thread

Lazario wrote: Um... they are all exactly the same. They are killing the mainstream comedy. There is most definitely something wrong with that. If the same movie is made 40 times in 8 years, it's not funny anymore.

The death of film quality is not fun. It's a very bad thing. Did you not see The Wild? A Disney family film forcing fart and low-blow gross-humor jokes just to keep up with these sorts of ultra-unfunny crass SNL comedies. You think that's the last time these sorts of movies are going to keep making all other movies dumber? I'm not overthinking anything. Audiences today are just underthinking, and it's rubbing off on people like you. You must resist the urge to just brush it off like it doesn't mean anything. I mean- look at what you're doing... You're giving me guff and letting them completely off the hook. That's what they want you to do. Don't you see how they're manipulating you? They know if they can get movies like these to dumb people down, they'll attack all the smart people until they're all gone, and the writers won't have to work anymore. They'll just do what a South Park episode has already shown that these Dodgeball / Blades of Glory / Ricky Bobby writers do - put ideas in a tank and let animals pick them out by random. The characters in these movies are all the same! The humor in the movies is all the same! How can people laugh at the same joke 100 times in the same month?

People like me? Clearly, you don't know much about me and my interest in film in general. My tastes are quite varied, and the fact that I get great pleasure from the humor of films like Dodgeball doesn't mean I can't watch and enjoy smarter films right after. I'm not that easy to manipulate, believe me, and just because someone can laugh at films about dumb guys doesn't make them dumb viewers.

If you think these films are bringing about the "death of film quality," you just need to try avoiding them and going to other films, because that is totally ridiculous. There are plenty of quality films out there, and if they're not making as much money as these or getting as much attention as these, maybe it's time to accept that what you like isn't what everybody else likes. Whether or not these movies are "funny anymore" or funny at all is a matter of opinion. Clearly, many people find them funny, over and over and over. That's why people buy them on DVD. As far as them all being copies of each other, all being exactly the same, I disagree that they're as repetitive as you say. Sure, they're going to have similarities, they run a certain style of comedy and use a lot of the same casts, but plenty of differences exist between them, allowing for very different jokes, morals, etc..., even if they are in a similar style/plotline. But if that style is a whole new sub-genre, as you seem to title it (occupational comedies), then you should just avoid occupational comedies. Again, just because you don't like them doesn't mean they need to stop. Obviously, many people love them, and it's not just because they're all stupid and you're not.

Most films fall into a certain genre and sub-genre, and most films can be compared easily to other films within their genre or sub-genre. However, those supposedly "completely original" films are still out there, if you want to seek them out. I'd hate to live in a world where only the movies that you like are allowed (or movies that I like, or anyone else).