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Re: What Fairy Tales Should Disney Do?

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:44 am
by Ariel'sprince
Disney Duster wrote:
Ariel'sprince wrote:So she fight Narrisa becouse Narrisa captured Robert? well,at least she fight her :D (by the way-does she finds out that the statue she made is Robert? or is it a spoiler?).
Yea, Narissa goes after Robert. Giselle doesn't realize her statue was Robert, but thanks to you, I relaized the statue wears the same jacket Robert wears at the ball (and it's based off the one Beast wears in Beauty and the Beast!).
Oh,allright,at least she fight :D in the picture you posted i saw that Narrisa kidnappted Robert.
That's sad she dosn't know that it's his statue.
And how's the troll have Snow White's,Cinderella's and Aurora's dresses? i think i saw Belle's blue dress and Mulan's pink dress and Ariel's shells but that's it.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:49 pm
by BelleGirl
I don't know the exact title, but there is a Hans Christian Andersen fairy tale about 12 princes turned into swans and their young sister has to break the spell.
Another good Andersen story is 'The tinderbox'. That one is full of action!

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:42 pm
by UmbrellaFish
BelleGirl wrote:I don't know the exact title, but there is a Hans Christian Andersen fairy tale about 12 princes turned into swans and their young sister has to break the spell.
Another good Andersen story is 'The tinderbox'. That one is full of action!
That's one of my favorites! I think it's called the Seven Swans. Not quite sure, but it's one of H.C. Andersen's best in my opinion.

Re: What Fairy Tales Should Disney Do?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:24 am
by Lazario
Disney Duster wrote:
Lazario wrote:And - why are you so anti the package feature idea? Just personal preference? Because, why would we want to wait forever for each movie to come out when we could get them all together? :?
Well, Rapunzel's already being made into an animated feature, intended as a classic with CGI animation made to look and move more like hand-drawn animation.

I just feel the other tales should get the same treatment. But your idea of a package feature isn't bad if they can't figure out a way to make each one into a good full-length movie. You could replace Rapunzel with Little Red Ridinghood.

But one probelm is, if they ever feel they ran out of ideas for feature films, because they won't do original stories forever, and the full-length fairy tale is a tradition for them, they'll never be able to fall back on any of the fairy tales they've already done in the package feature.
I can't believe I forgot Little Red Riding Hood (that's the way I care to spell it).

Regardless of how Disney sells and structures their films for production, and what people think of the ones out now... these new films just aren't cutting it anymore. They're all stretching the format and aren't delivering enough to make them worth watching anymore, except by people who don't care about real quality. More than 50% of each of Disney's new movies are pure filler. So, cut down the length of the movies and now there's not so much filler. The pure meat and bones of the story remains, enough room for decent character establishment and enough jokes to keep it fresh without making it long and boring.

And I really don't want to see these great, classic stories have to wait until the tired Disney writers finally get around to them - just to have them put in cliched, played-out trendy jokes and gags that have worn out their welcome. I just want to see some really good movies come out. So... really, how would it hurt? Just because some people have a thing against the package features, these should all end up inferior feature-length films instead of one potentially superior package film?

I guess the package / anthology film is just a thing of the past. Sad, really.

Re: What Fairy Tales Should Disney Do?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:34 am
by Disney Duster
Well, I wouldn't say that I'm anti or against the package films, unless it's down to either for or against, and I'm against it being done to all those fairy tales. I wouldn't mind some, since Disney had some in their Silly Symphonies which were shorts, but why would you make them package films just because they've been making mediocre movies these days? You don't think they'll get back into the swing of things?

Like I said, if they can't figure out a way to make them into good movies, okay, package them. But if they see potential and think of enough good ideas within a short enough time, they should really try for some classic animated fairy tales again.

And I think your opinion (and admitedly, most everyone else's) that the recent feature films arn't good is a pretty lame reason not to make the tales into features. By that logic, since their crappy movies of late have been based on anything but fairy tales, they either shouldn't make movies at all OR try the fairy tales!

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:53 am
by Aladdin from Agrabah
I'd like to see Disney make Oddysey, Jason and the Argonauts, a more adult and complicated story based on the Redcap and the Princess and the Pea, Cleopatra, a story about the Vikings, The three Musketeers, Les Miserables, Alexander the Great, a story about the French Revolution, the Snow Queen, an animated adaptation of "Sound of Music" or even "The King and I" and Zorro. That's all for now. :D

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:15 pm
by BelleGirl
Aladdin from Agrabah wrote:I'd like to see Disney make Oddysey, Jason and the Argonauts, a more adult and complicated story based on the Redcap and the Princess and the Pea, Cleopatra, a story about the Vikings, The three Musketeers, Les Miserables, Alexander the Great, a story about the French Revolution, the Snow Queen, an animated adaptation of "Sound of Music" or even "The King and I" and Zorro. That's all for now. :D
A story about the French revolution? They could use 'A tale of two cities' as a base.
'The princess and the pea' seems to me to short for a full-lenght feature.

If they make an animated version of " The sound of music", can they use the Oscar and Hammerstein songs?
"The king and I": there already is an animated version (has anyone seen it?)

If Disney is going to adapt a story like "Les miserables", the film should be considerably longer than the standard 80 minutes.

Most important: how can animation be employed to add that little bit extra to stories that could also be done well in live action? (like the talking tree in Pocahontas for instance?)

Re: What Fairy Tales Should Disney Do?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:30 pm
by Lazario
Disney Duster wrote:why would you make them package films just because they've been making mediocre movies these days? You don't think they'll get back into the swing of things?
Disney? No. Because Disney used to have their own way of doing things, they used to be very unique, distinguished, special. Now, you can't tell the difference between a new Disney movie and anything else family oriented any studio puts out. The magic alone used to clearly differentiate Disney products from other studios. But the magic is long gone. There are no new Disney traditions or that make the schlep worth it, if I can make that analogy. We might as well be having this discussion about all the studios combined. Which Studio will be making the next fairy tale film?

Disney Duster wrote:And I think your opinion (and admitedly, most everyone else's) that the recent feature films arn't good is a pretty lame reason not to make the tales into features. By that logic, since their crappy movies of late have been based on anything but fairy tales, they either shouldn't make movies at all OR try the fairy tales!
Sorry. I know it's depressing, but I've lost almost all my faith in people like Disney to make great movies. They seem to make, by and large, more headweigh with their endless series of sports dramas. And that's proving to be as important to Disney as their animated movies. Do either of these trends seem to be doing much to further their reputation? And the individual movies themselves- are they just all a bunch of jokes and tears? Or do you honestly remember any of the characters? Does anything they do anymore have any impact at all?

But the fairy tales have endless appeal. I think it's like Disney returning to what they do best. My suggestion that they make them into a package feature is just my way of suggesting that they make each one as short as they can so there's less chance they'll screw it up by putting in fart jokes or trendy one-liners with phrases like "pwn" and "sweeeet!" and "bawm chikka wawowwow." And whatever garbage Disney inevitably sticks into their movies to keep them in competition with whatever other new studio project is making a run with more money.

Re: What Fairy Tales Should Disney Do?

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:17 am
by BelleGirl
Lazario wrote: But the fairy tales have endless appeal. I think it's like Disney returning to what they do best. My suggestion that they make them into a package feature is just my way of suggesting that they make each one as short as they can so there's less chance they'll screw it up by putting in fart jokes or trendy one-liners with phrases like "pwn" and "sweeeet!" and "bawm chikka wawowwow." And whatever garbage Disney inevitably sticks into their movies to keep them in competition with whatever other new studio project is making a run with more money.
Lazario,

Can you name examples of farth jokes (other than Pumbaa in 'The Lion King') in recent Disney animation? In which movie do you hear things like "bawn chikka wawowwow"?
Two fairy tales are upcoming now and I do hope they won't contain any of these sort of 'Schrek' jokes or over-the top sidekicks.
I think Disney shows ambition with 'Rapunzel' in applying CGI in an new manner. Hope that their ambition also shows storywise.

As much as we might wish to, we cannot tell Disney what movies to make or how to do it. Or do you know a way to contact them? :)

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:02 am
by Super Aurora
BelleGirl wrote:
Aladdin from Agrabah wrote:I'd like to see Disney make Oddysey, Jason and the Argonauts, a more adult and complicated story based on the Redcap and the Princess and the Pea, Cleopatra, a story about the Vikings, The three Musketeers, Les Miserables, Alexander the Great, a story about the French Revolution, the Snow Queen, an animated adaptation of "Sound of Music" or even "The King and I" and Zorro. That's all for now. :D
A story about the French revolution? They could use 'A tale of two cities' as a base.
'The princess and the pea' seems to me to short for a full-lenght feature.

If they make an animated version of " The sound of music", can they use the Oscar and Hammerstein songs?
"The king and I": there already is an animated version (has anyone seen it?)

If Disney is going to adapt a story like "Les miserables", the film should be considerably longer than the standard 80 minutes.

Most important: how can animation be employed to add that little bit extra to stories that could also be done well in live action? (like the talking tree in Pocahontas for instance?)
It wasn't good. The story was bit ruin with over top mascot sidekicks, and a klumsy sidekick villian, and even the bad guy was pathetic. It tried too hard be disney.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:13 am
by Gobi-1
I'd like to see Disney make an animated version of Shakespeare. Twelfth Night would be good.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:25 pm
by slave2moonlight
Little Red Riding Hood is my fave fairytale, and I'd like to see Disney do a serious, 2D animated take on it, like their other fairytales (in other words, not something Shrek inspired like Hoodwinked).

I've also always wanted to see them to a great Puss in Boots animated film taking much inspiration from the live-action Christopher Walken version.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:34 pm
by Siren
Just read this one

Ivan, The Firebird, and the Grey Wolf

originally from Russia. It sounds like a cool story.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:32 pm
by merlinjones
Hansel and Gretel
Rapunzel
The Snow Queen

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:30 am
by Maria
What about a Disney animated Harry Potter??? :D :D :D

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:45 pm
by akhenaten
i want disney to do something from indonesia..malaysian folk tales are often depressing and oppressed and we have our version of cinderella with a magic swing that's local to the malaysian and indonesian culture..but i want disney to do something that deals with the ancient buddhist/hindu kingdoms of java...something set in borobudur...that would be great..with the music and costumes.... we also have stories of princess that lives in the sky who often gets stuck in mortal world when they go down to bath in waterfalls..and magical wizards and cursed princes

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:52 pm
by Barbossa
Gulliver's Travels
Jason and the Argonauts
Robinson Crusoe

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:02 pm
by blackcauldron85
akhenaten wrote: we also have stories of princess that lives in the sky who often gets stuck in mortal world when they go down to bath in waterfalls..and magical wizards and cursed princes
Can you tell us more about that, or show us a link to where that story is? Please?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:25 pm
by gdSTUDent
“Goldilocks and the Three Bears” is one I’ve wanted to be made by Disney for years.

I think they could come up with a cute story like Goldilocks is an orphan or a runaway and the three bears become her new family or show her how important family is and encourage her to go back home. The possibilities are endless but I would want it to be serious and not turn into another Shrek or Hoodwinked.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:28 pm
by akhenaten
blackcauldron85 wrote:
Can you tell us more about that, or show us a link to where that story is? Please?

i dunno if there are online links to it.but i have the books. i collect lots of fairy tales n folk tales books especially from my region. it comes in handy when i wanna make animated projects..example being hailibu is from mongolia.

anyway ill try to upload some of the pictures with a story summary soon.

but i would advice anyone not to read inuit folk tales..theyre just bizzarre! and i found out Tanana is actually a region up north. now i know
where disney got the name. :D

here's some links to malaysian/indonesian folktales i could find so far.
http://www.aaronshep.com/stories/R01.html
http://www.sabrizain.demon.co.uk/malaya/melaka3.htm
http://www.pglthemovie.com/
http://www.pglthemusical.com.my/

this is one of my fav stories..the book i have contain beautiful drawings indonesian style. its got a sad ending that can be adapted pocahontas style into animation...ill scan the book soon

http://info-iklan1.blogspot.com/2007/12 ... wulan.html
http://jinguj.deviantart.com/art/childr ... b-72001696

:D