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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:07 am
by bambifan56
I think you need a certain degree of "cuteness", it really makes you fall in love with the characters and their personalities. The way we like Bambi makes is that much harder and emotional whenever his mother is shot. If we just do it going straight into it (which the book still made Bambi to look kind cutesy at first and a little more manly once he got older). Not saying you have to be over cute, but you have to make it so you have a connection with the characters, otherwise you lose your emotional attactment to them.
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:09 am
by Zoltack
No, because they don't want Adult Bambi's picture on lunch boxes, back packs, pogs you name it. They just want the cute cuddly little baby Bambi so when you see your child walking out the door to go to school you'll be like "uuuhhhh!" That's the main reason... merchandising. They'll probably have it on the flame thrower too. Be like "oh that's a cute flame thrower!"
You right but people would respect the characters more if they took the cuteness down a few notches. I mean making them overly cute makes them lose their dignity especially GP. It's not about being attached to the characters, you can relate to them by having respect. Respect is the key word here. Good characters in movie's, plays or what have you are respectable characters. There's a little logic for ya; I'm getting into my Critical and Logical Thinking class.
6 MORE FRICKEN DAYS YEAAHHHHHHH!!!!! Hopefully I get my racing seat brackets so I can install my racing seats and safety harnesses too. That would kick ass!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:43 am
by Isidour
Yep, those are the main reasons.
Definitelly would be nice to watch a Bambi movie from the very book itself, but just the ones who have read the bok would enjoy it, and just because now when you think Bambi,the first image in our mind is the Walt`s Bambi, and unfortunatelly not the Salten`s one.
Yes! just 6 for the DVD and JUST 16 TO WATCH IT IN THEATERS!!!!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:37 am
by Zoltack
You know now that I really think about it they actually do in a sense follow the book. I mean in the midquel Bambi seems to try really hard to please his father well that's true in the book as well. You remember the first meeting that they had where GP's like "Why are cring, can't you see you mother doesn't have time for you?" When I read that I was like "BURN!!!" So when Bambi meets GP again GP's like "Why aren't you crying for your mother?" and Bambi's like "Because I don't do that anymore, I'm not a baby." and so forth. Huh? HUH?!
I mean it doesn't follow it explicitly but the movie is somewhat influnenced by the book.
I actually got the crazy idea

that they should make a remake movie to Bambi. Call it Bambi: A Life in the Woods, if you get my drift and have the movie some what explicitly follow the book unlike the original. I mean have the actuall characters in the book and put them in the moive. Like Gobo, Karus, and what not. Then make a good effort to follow the plot. And of course we would get rid of Thumper and Flower and discover that Bambi's mother is the true teacher instead of his friends (who in the original movie taught Bambi his first word(bird)). I would want to watch it. Yeah, its a good book so it should make a good movie.
I mean they already did a boat load of remakes anyways so why not?
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:29 pm
by Roger Rabbit
Six days huh? Well, from what I've read here, it looks generally positive thus far.

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:39 pm
by DarthPrime
I watched the preview on the Bambi II site earlier today. Looks pretty good from what was shown in the preview. I will be picking this up sometime next week.
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:58 pm
by maxeythecat
Zoltack wrote:
I actually got the crazy idea

that they should make a remake movie to Bambi. Call it Bambi: A Life in the Woods, if you get my drift and have the movie some what explicitly follow the book unlike the original. I mean have the actuall characters in the book and put them in the moive. Like Gobo, Karus, and what not. Then make a good effort to follow the plot. And of course we would get rid of Thumper and Flower and discover that Bambi's mother is the true teacher instead of his friends (who in the original movie taught Bambi his first word(bird)). I would want to watch it. Yeah, its a good book so it should make a good movie.
I mean they already did a boat load of remakes anyways so why not?
What did I say in my previous post?
maxeythecat wrote:
Could you imagine someone creating an animated film of Bambi that was adapted and I mean REALLY adapted from the book with all those elements intact? I'm not talking about sensationalizing the violence in the book for the sake of it, I'm talking about a beautifully rendered, full on 2D animated movie that would retain the realism of the book and be a visual feast to the eye the same way Walt's version was except minus the cutesypoo. Draw the characters in a more natural manner till it looks like a moving painting rather than a "cartoon" and show that a film with mature content could be done sucessfully in a 2D environment. The mind boggles at the very idea, don't it?
Of course you'd have to make the characters appealing for the audience, but that can be done quite easily and still have a remarkable, grou-breaking film done in a way that's never been done in animation. I really think that this should be given some serious thought......if there was any way to salvage 2D's reputation as an art form and breathe some life back into it, a project such as this could be the one to do it. Opinions?
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:28 am
by Isidour
well, that definitelly would be an excelent idea, but it might have the same destiny that had Final Fantasy, which was very very revolutionary but not that knowed or accepted outside Japan
But...we are talking about Bambi and Disney n_n
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:12 pm
by maxeythecat
One reason that "Final Fantasy" failed so appallingly was because it was rendered in that "hyper reality" CGI style.........UGGH! All bells and whistles but no real sense of the characters being ALIVE. Flat, emotionless, expressionless, just like staring at a plastic doll sitting on a shelf for two hours. With all their skills and their technical hoo-hah they've managed to create the illusion of reality but they can't seem to instill it with the essence of life the way that a 2D animated film can. And that's what the heck I'm talking about.....create a 2D FILM, NOT A CGI!! Create a look that leaves no doubt in your mind that this is an animated feature but do it in such a way that you'd think you're watching a wondrous work of art coming to life.....something that would truly take your breath away.
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:40 pm
by Isidour
And I also spek of a wonderfull 2D animated movie indeed.
Is just that I couldn`t find another example

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:34 pm
by so it goes
I watched Bambi II today and was not really impressed with it at all. I was actually a bit dissapointed.
While the animation wasn't too bad, I just don't feel it the captured the charm of the first one. Which I guess is to be expected from a dtv sequel though.
My big problem was with the action scene with the dogs, the first one that is. They tried to get the same look and feel as the action from Bambi but I feel they just did not pull it off. While in the original the colors where beautiful, here they just looked cheap to me, like they where trying to copy the original with out really needing too.
Another thing I didn't like was that it was just too formulaic. No big surprises here, just your average kids movie. Which, I guess is the problem. Unlike Bambi which easily appeals to all ages, Bambi II seemed geared just to the kids. While it wouldn't hold my attention for a second viewing it has all the things kids seem to like. Actually, I'm just assuming kids like them because it seems the same plot points and story are spread among so many kids movies. In other words, there is nothing original here.
On another note, on the screener at my work they have a preview for Bambi II and while in the corner where they tell the release date and what not they have it as Bambi II but in the video itself they call it Bambi and the Great Prince of the Forest, which I found weird because didn't they get rid of that name months ago? Also a lady that I work with really liked it, she watched it twice, maybe not even with her kids.
Anyhoo, those are my thoughts and comments on Bambi II, not for me but I'm sure it will find it's audience.
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:47 pm
by Zoltack
How are you guys getting copies of the movie without it being released yet? Did y'all down load it or something? Or did you go to a special screening or something? Something? Cuz I would most definitely like to know. Even though I can easily wait 5 more days before I get my copy.
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:03 pm
by so it goes
I work in a video store and we get the new releases in on the wednesday of the week before, so the employees have almost a week to watch new movies before they are actually released. Thats how I saw it early, I can't answer for anyone else though.
this is my 50th post, dope!
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:24 am
by maxeythecat
I cannot tell a lie..........I found it whilst walking thru the park and a little birdy dropped it in my lap. And if that ain't the truth I hope I get hit by a streetca.....hm?
Uh-oh.........*******crashcrashbangboombangsoundofmetalbeingcrushedlikeasardinecan****arrrrrrgggghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
screener
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:43 am
by bambifan56
Yea my buddy at Blockbuster got a screener like 3 weeks early..it sucked to watch though because at the bottom it had that "THIS IS A SCREENER---IF YOU HAVE COME INTO CONTACT WITH THIS AND ARE NOT THE CORRECT PERSON PLEASE CALL 1-800-555-4804 (Something like that)" and it flashed the whole stinkin' movie, so, that sucked.
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:08 am
by Zoltack
You should of called that number someone answers and says "yeah this is the FBI we're coming to arrest you now... have a nice day!" I mean do they think we're a gulli-bull or a gulli-calf. ssssshheah!

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:03 pm
by Isidour
well, in case they got busted copying this DVD, the attorney could argue that they had full knowledge that copying that DVD was an illegal act and instead of being an honorable aand respectable citizen and dial the number to report it, they decided to make business with it...
I know, its stupid but it`s your law, not mine
Glad to live in México, baby!
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:37 pm
by Tascar
Isidour wrote:well, that definitelly would be an excelent idea, but it might have the same destiny that had Final Fantasy, which was very very revolutionary but not that knowed or accepted outside Japan
But...we are talking about Bambi and Disney n_n
Just wanted to clear it up. I'm almost sure that Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within bombed either as hard or harder in Japan where you had even more die-hard Final Fantasy fans tearing the movie apart. It's not accepted in Japan.
I doubt this will be Bambi II's fate though (sadly). Kids these days will just watch just about anything and their parents will buy just about anything too.
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:56 am
by GhostHost
Zoltack wrote:You thought Bambi was intense??? Yes it has it's tense moments but certainly not enough to be rated R. Go watch Underworld: Evolution... you'll get my drift, I mean seeing how we're talking about intense movies...
I have not seen Underworld:Evolution, would it be intense to me?
No, probably just a stupid movie. Blood and guts do not make a intense movie. Bambi the book may be darker, I need to read it. Still, Bambi is much more violent and intense than the current PG rated fare like Lilo and Stich and Atlantis The Lost Empire.
confirm..
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:51 am
by bambifan56
I just recieved shipping conformation from walmart.com, I should recieve Bambi II on Monday (it's being shipped from Arkansas)..