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Farerb wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:18 am
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Nice posters They look more dimensional as opposed to 2D.

Those posters are lovely and I'm very excited for this movie to come out. I got to appreciate that Disney is finally trying to do something a bit different with their animation style and backgrounds in comparison to their previous films. Also, it's pretty interesting that they hired different songwriters for the movie; I thought either the Lopezes or Alan Menken would be involved, but I'm hopeful that Julia Michaels and Benjamin Rice will do a very good job with the music.

I agree, it's nice to see them venturing outside the box visually. And also doing so with something new and visually appealing, whereas Strange World also was out-of-the-box, but the design was ugly for me, unfortunately. I think the look of this film or older films like the Mary Blair / Eyvind Earle work, the art design of Pocahontas, Aladdin, Hercules, Mulan, etc. is a good way of looking at how to break out-of-the-box of the more basic designs of the Lasseter area, in a way that's incredibly pretty.

I do like Julia Michaels in other contexts, so I am trying to go in with a positive expectation. Hopefully she at least can be on par with maybe Pasek & Paul, as far as their songs tend to have a feeling of pop radio more than Broadway, and since she's more of a pop / radio figure, I'd be satisfied with that at least although of course I'd have liked something more Broadway. Best case scenario is if she turns out something on par with Phil Collins' Tarzan or Elton Johns' TLK--although I'm not crazy enough to think that would be the case, but it would be nice if it happened and anything is possible.

"Walt Disney Co. is reviewing its schedule of film releases through the rest of the year and may delay some titles because striking actors won’t help promote the pictures, according to people familiar with the matter.

The discussions are at an early stage, but could impact films including Poor Things, Next Goal Wins, Wish and Magazine Dreams, which are all slated for release this year. Any changes will depend on the outcome of the review, said the people, who asked not to be identified discussing internal matters."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-24/disney-weighs-delaying-some-2023-movie-releases-amid-strikes

Delaying the movie may be damaging, as Disney is known for its Thanksgiving release and Wish SCREAMS "Thanksgiving/Christmas movie". The actors strike is a poor excuse to delay the film, they act as if Wish is a Live Action Movie, please I think 70% of moviegoers dont even know or care who voices in animated movies. They also have to skip their typical March position due to the final Spiderverse (although i think its getting delayed) so a Summer release would be ok. But if Wish has troubled production ala Frozen2, then PLEASE DISNEY DELAY IT AS MUCH AS YOU WANT FROZEN 2 WAS BAD

I don't think that Wish had a troubled production since they're supposed to complete the animation soon.

The Disneynerd wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:32 am They also have to skip their typical March position due to the final Spiderverse (although i think its getting delayed) so a Summer release would be ok.

Beyond the Spider-Verse is most certainly getting delayed. 1) the second movie was delayed a few times; 2) one voice actress confirmed in early June 2023 that she hadn't recorded any lines for the movie. If the voice acting hasn't been finalized, then the animation isn't complete and probably can't be completed in under a year if they keep the March 2024 slot.

I think the rumor mill (nothing official) is that Sony is waiting for Across the Spider-Verse to be released on digital before announcing the 3rd film will be delayed.

As it relates to Disney/Wish - I don't know how much the strikes effect animation, but I'm supposing production is finished or able to be finished without drawback.

I think Disney would be fools to delay the release when they already have the Thanksgiving slot locked. They should feel safe doing so, financially. Elemental while it had a poor opening weekend, has positive word of mouth and is a contender to make half a billion dollars this year. (Also Elemental became the highest grossing Pixar movie in South Korea.)

North African with south europeans ancesters...what an invent.
If they wanted to do that they could hace done a history based on the times where arabian were living at the same time in Spain. It would have had more sense than this bullsh*t

That description allows them to hire Afro-Latinas to play Asha. What a farce!

Thumper_93 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:54 pm North African with south europeans ancesters...what an invent.
If they wanted to do that they could hace done a history based on the times where arabian were living at the same time in Spain. It would have had more sense than this bullsh*t

I just created an account because I've been reading this forum just for the Wish post (it's the only place that posts updates on the movie)

But I'm tired of people like you, I'm spaniard (you're probably not) and Al Andalus was literally the mix between amazigh people and iberians (and many other groups like West African slaves sadly, jewish people aka west asians, arabs and other groups)

So I don't get what's your problem, Asha is an example of how people in the peninsula looked and still look

Pokenonbinary wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:19 pm

Thumper_93 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:54 pm North African with south europeans ancesters...what an invent.
If they wanted to do that they could hace done a history based on the times where arabian were living at the same time in Spain. It would have had more sense than this bullsh*t

I just created an account because I've been reading this forum just for the Wish post (it's the only place that posts updates on the movie)

But I'm tired of people like you, I'm spaniard (you're probably not) and Al Andalus was literally the mix between amazigh people and iberians (and many other groups like West African slaves sadly, jewish people aka west asians, arabs and other groups)

So I don't get what's your problem, Asha is an example of how people in the peninsula looked and still look

I'm spaniard so inform yourself before talk. Spaniards doesn't look like Asha. Even her hairstyle is not common on Spain so I don't know what are you talking about. Asha IS another afro american character dressed with an invented gown made to have another black princess. She doesn't look spaniard, she doesn't look arabian and she doesn't have any inspiration on the Al Andalus period so please, make yourself a favor and investigate more.
She is a missed chance of an interracial princesa with a beautfiul mix of cultures. This "new country" that they created should have been inspired in Toledo where 4 cultures lived together for a long time.

When do you guys think the next trailer will come out? Some say it will come out when Haunted Mansion is released and they will play the trailer in theater.

Thumper_93 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:26 pmI'm spaniard so inform yourself before talk. Spaniards doesn't look like Asha. Even her hairstyle is not common on Spain so I don't know what are you talking about. Asha IS another afro american character dressed with an invented gown made to have another black princess. She doesn't look spaniard, she doesn't look arabian and she doesn't have any inspiration on the Al Andalus period so please, make yourself a favor and investigate more. She is a missed chance of an interracial princesa with a beautfiul mix of cultures. This "new country" that they created should have been inspired in Toledo where 4 cultures lived together for a long time.

Black spaniards exist and existed, I never said all spaniards are black or biracial, the movie literally shows that Rosas is a very diverse island with all kinds of people (even east asian people, like in real life where it is documented that a small number of east asian people migrated to Spain during that time)

You talking about her hairstyle is just antiblack, and she's not african american,

Dejar de llamar afroamericanos a todos los negros (y mulatos) que veis, por dios ignorantes

reee9948 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:14 pmWhen do you guys think the next trailer will come out? Some say it will come out when Haunted Mansion is released and they will play the trailer in theater.

I think the full trailer is coming this week, maybe even tomorrow, the Marvels trailer came out by surprise without any promo

Oh, good, I hope the full trailer really is that soon, very excited to see more of this one (hopefully good things).

To me it just looks like a fantasy version of Spain in the same way that Raya was a fantasy version of south east Asia.

Some Spanish vibes, some Moroccan and/or North African vibes. Designed to offend nobody and therefore bound to offend everyone for some reason.

The culture war is exhausting but it must rage on, I guess.

PatrickvD wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:56 pm To me it just looks like a fantasy version of Spain in the same way that Raya was a fantasy version of south east Asia.

Some Spanish vibes, some Moroccan and/or North African vibes. Designed to offend nobody and therefore bound to offend everyone for some reason.

The culture war is exhausting but it must rage on, I guess.

The kingdom of Rosas is not like Kumandra from Raya, that was a mix of many many SEA countries with totally different cultures (that felt lazy)

Rosas is based in Spain, more exactly in the Al Andalus period, that culture is real, its not fake for the movie, of course it has moroccan vibes, they colonized Spain for 800 years.

It's like saying that Encanto has Spaniard vibes, of course it has, colombian culture is deeply based in spanish culture from the colonization

Yeah except Colombia is real? I don’t get that comparison.

I still think it boils down to the same thing. Sure Wish appears to be more specific in terms of the cultures/ time period it is referencing than Raya or example, but it’s still a big mix. The Iberian peninsula has been home to many kingdoms, cultures and peoples. It’s so abstract you can see in it whatever you want.

For me that’s fine. But apparently nothing can exist out of the realm of this woke debate. That’s all I’m saying. I just see a cute, albeit lazily designed, princess. Others refer to her as African American because black = woke.

Whatever man.

In 4 months the movie will be released and they haven't released their first trailer yet. I'm sure it will be released when Haunted Mansion is, but if it doesn't then I'm gonna to be really worried here. They did little to no marketing for Strange World and did bad marketing for Elemental. I know they are releasing merchandise for the movie, but it seems that a lot of people aren't aware that this movie even exist and some says that the teaser didn't make them interested in the movie saying that the animation looks like a ps2 game.

Since it's their 100th anniversary movie, I'm sure that they want to do a lot of marketing, but with the actor strike, I'm not sure if they can do that anymore. I really hope this movie doesn't bomb in box office because this is the only recent Disney movie that catches my interest. I really like the vibes of the movie and I hope that they can make more of it, but if the movie fails in box office, they will have to make more sequels to make up for the lost money.