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DisneyFan09 wrote:But on the superficial side; Richard Madden is a cutie

Yes, he is.

In terms of what century this is, it's the 19th century mixed with the 1940s, which is how the animated film looked too. The animated film mixed eras, especially during the ball where it looked like they were from the 1940s. The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, etc all mixed eras as well. Also, it makes sense that Lady Tremaine and her daughters would be very fashion forward and dressed like they lived in the '40s.

As for the overall look of the film, to me it looks and feels like a magical Disney movie where anything is possible. I don't think I expected exact and literal recreations of sets and costumes from the animated movie. The costumes and sets seem to be inspired by the animated film, such as Anastasia wearing pink/purple, Drizella wearing yellow/green, Cinderella's mother's pink dress, the winding staircase inside Cinderella's manor/chateau, etc. If they were exact recreations, people would probably still complain.

As for why Cinderella again, I mean the same thing could be said about anything. Do we really need another Batman movie? Superman? Romeo & Juliet? Oliver Twist? Pride & Prejudice? Moses/Exodus/Ten Commandments? Jesus? The great thing about seeing the same thing over again is seeing how someone else adapted it. There's one Cinderella story but there are many ways to tell it.

As for Lily James, I haven't seen her in anything else besides Downton Abbey, but her character on that show is my favorite.

Yeah, maybe the animated films mixed eras a bit, but it sticks out way more in live action if you asked me.

The fact that we are discussing it already proves that. And again: LEOPARD PRINT?????

Anyone remember the Drew Barrymore Cinderella "Ever After"? I was very satisfied with that, even if it didn't have the magic element there.

Actually, this trailer reminds me a bit of "Mirror Mirror", that DREADFUL Snow White remake from a couple of years ago... also felt too colorful and a bit garish.

I think they've went back and added elements from the original Perrault tale. In that story, the stepfamily are said to be very fashionable and they cut a great figure in their kingdom's society and hierarchy, in terms of nobility, quality and high fashion, which was one of the reasons they were invited to the ball. Taking that into consideration, the costumes worn by Cate Blanchett and her "daughters" make sense. I'm loving Cate Blanchett's costumes honestly! They are everything and giving me life! She looks like she is decked out in haute couture and should be photographed by Vogue. Her appearance is like a fairy tale version of Meryl Streep's character in The Devil Wears Prada.

I don't think it's supposed to be a period piece like Ever After and The Slipper and the Rose.

In comparison to Mirror Mirror, that movie was a comedy and this seems more like a drama/romance, similar to Ever After but with magic.

Sotiris, I really like that poster with the white gown! It's gorgeous! Looking at it though, maybe the filmmakers wanted to stay away from Ella wearing too much white since she would be wearing a wedding gown by the end of the movie that would probably look too similar?

Glad you love it and what you guys said, Musical Master and PatrickvD! Agreed, it looks glorious!

I agree with you Prince Edward, if only Sleeping Beauty and Alice and Wonderland got this treatment instead of what we got for them. But hey, maybe someday they will do those this right way... And thanks for those great reads!

Yay Jay, like what you said!

WillytheDino, the original 1950 animated Cinderella seemed like she would be kind even without her mother’s advise and she does up to her stepfamily about being able to go to the ball.

tsom, I think Cinderella's father remarried that point in Cinderella's life because he was going away and he wanted her to be safe and happy and not alone before she got to find a husband...or perhaps so she wouldn't have to find a husband. And also, this is a fairy tale! It doesn't always follow history's rules...

Yes, Old Fish Tale, this looks sensational and yes, it looks like the stepmother did already smash the shoe! How terrible! My poor Cinderella! I wonder how she will overcome it, like the rest of you! And I guess the stepmother will be even smarter…and perhaps more wicked!

Thanks for the silver/white version of the Cinderella poster, Sotiris! But I must say, it looks to white to me and I prefer the original poster with the blue dress, even if it is not true to the original film. What I most like is Cinderella’s dress being a bluish silver, not just plain silver or white. In the original film sometimes it looks bluish silver.

Lord-of-sith, I must admit some of the film does look garish to me…. The stepsisters were ugly in the original film but had better clothes and hair and better dresses, they didn’t look as ugly as they do in this film (except they were uglier physically). Even the stepmother’s dresses are kinda ugly. I also prefer the way the stepfamily looks in Disney’s Into the Woods, but in that one they are supposed to be “beautiful of face” and their costumes were based on clothes from the 1700’s, when I and many feel clothes looked the most beautiful. Like the Fairy Godmother’s dress in this film. Though I find the original 1950 animated film’s Cinderella dress to be a mix of the 1700’s and 1800’s and to be the best, most beautiful dress ever!

I agree with you and think the CGI does need to look more realistic though…

I think the girl playing Cinderella, Lily James, is doing a much better job than the girl who played Alice, at least from what I remember because I only saw Disney’s 2010 live-action Alice in Wonderland once. If you find this Cinderella actress boring, well, a lot of people find Disney’s original animated Cinderella character boring.

And I don’t think this is camp at all. It all looks serious and emotional to me! And I didn’t think Maleficent was campy either…especially not Angelina Jolie’s acting.

And I think Helena Bonham Carter is fantastic to see as the Fairy Godmother MeerkateKombat and lord-of-sith! So what if she’s not the same as the original or all grandmotherly. She’s fun and sounds caring to Cinderella, too.

Aw, Atlantica, I was hoping you would like this trailer… This film does take many things from the original, though. Cinderella’s blonde hair, blue and brown rags, blue dress (because in the original it looks blue at some moments and I don’t know if it is really silver or blue…even though I think it’s silver…), her hair partially up, above/atop her head for the ball, the mice, Lucifer, Cinderella’s horse Major, the dress-ripping scene, the fairy godmother's hooded cloak in her disguise, some of the other character’s names and hair and clothes colors.

MeerkatKombat, yes, I wish that they didn’t film in already made buildings…but you know, it could be like the Painted Hall is a real place that these people lived in, just like future monarchs lived in palaces made by people before them, you know?

And some people find even Disney’s original Cinderella character bland and boring.

I agree DisneyFan09 the CGI should be less obvious and be more realistic to fit in. I like what you think of Walt’s Cinderella though. And like tsom said, we should enjoy seeing what other people’s interpretations of old stories and characters and designs will be like, just like multiple productions of Shakespeare and other classics or just other really good pieces of entertainment.

Marce82, people talked about what eras the Disney animated classics were set in before this discussion. The original Disney film does have designs I prefer, but I like that this will be like the animated film by mixing the 1940’s with the 1800’s, and I think also the late 1600’s and the 1700’s. The original Disney film really looked very 1700’s to me… And yes, leopard print is a bit extreme and other choices are as well, but I can accept it and I like it. The film does not look like and will not be like Mirror Mirror at all. That film (and it’s trailer) was full of mostly just trying to be light and funny. This trailer shows emotion, seriousness, smarts, and beauty. I admit some of it does look garish, but only some, and only a little.

tsom, I think the late 1600’s and the 1700’s were definitely also mixed into the Disney version. One of the background artists said they tried to make the architecture like that from the reign of Louis XIV, who reigned from the 1600's to the 1700's. And also, somewhere either Kenneth Branagh or Sandy Powell said that this is supposed to be like a period piece. Perhaps they said, "but a fantasy version" or something like that. I forget where I read it...sorry. But I also agree, the stepmother's first dress, black and green (or black and gold, it looked black and gold in the trailer), is amazing, and I also love her ballgown! And since you mentioned Meryl Streep, don't you think she would have made an awesome live-action Lady Tremaine?

So anyway, I think this film looks and sounds like it will be tremendously great, and a wonderful dream come true.

The special effects look amazingly good except the CGI of the pumpkin and animals should be more realistic, but ah well. The colors and designs are sometimes garish, especially the stepfamily. The stepmother looks good in her first two green dresses, but her other two look like they have bad colors, and personally I think she needs to have the colors the original stepmother did, those purples, purplish reds and purplish blues. The stepsisters are supposed to be ugly, but here they just made pretty actresses look ugly in their choices of make-up and hair and clothes, which is brilliant, but they look too ugly, they should look better like in the original animated film. I hate almost all the flower patterns in all the costumes of this film, though. And the Fairy Godmother’s beggar look looks a little too ugly, too. And it doesn’t look like they gave her a very good “old woman” make-up job.

I like that the stepsisters for the ball look like little whores. In the original film, their bustle gowns, long curly hair and feathers in their hair might have been to make them look like the whores from the 1800’s, so this might fit right in with that!

I think all the actors are great. I think Helena Bonham Carter is perfect for the role. She’s expressive and fun, but warm and caring.

I’m glad Cinderella and the Prince will not just dance but also go out into the palace gardens as they fall further in love just like in the original. I like her wings! They look like butterfly wings which fits the butterfly theme! But I wish they looked and moved more like real fairy wings instead of like they are just a part of her costume, from all I can tell in the trailer.

I’m sad it looks like Major the horse won’t be the coachman, but a goose or swan instead. And I don’t like that Bruno the dog won’t be the footman, instead of those two footmen who look like they might have been transformed from lizards, even though that is more true to the original fairy tale. Actually, it looks like Bruno won’t be in the film at all and that makes me sad, too.

I’m glad that Kenneth Branagh knows that the scene of the transformations before the ball was Walt Disney’s favorite piece of animation and tried to match that magic with this film…and that it looks like he is succeeding! Even though I will always think the original is the best!

I really, really wish Cinderella had her bustle/poofy material at the sides of her waist on her ballgown, like in the original film, but oh well, her ballgown's still very beautiful, and in a way perfect.

But one of the biggest things that bothers me about this is the scene of the naming of Cinderella. Drizella calls her “Cinderwench”, which fits because Drizella wears yellow and in the original fairy tale, the meaner stepsister who dressed in yellow called her “Cinderwench”, and that stepsister’s name was Javotte, and in the French dub of Disney’s original Cinderella, they call Drizella Javotte. But then in the trailer Anastasia calls her “Dirtyella” and Drizella calls her “Cinderella!” That may be messing with the characters. If Drizella is the meaner stepsister, Anastasia would be the nicer one, and the nicer one in the original fairy tale is the one who called her Cinderella instead of Cinderwench. Cinderella is a much nicer, prettier name, that’s why the nicer one called her that. So I think the scene should have gone with Drizella calling her “Cinderwench” and Anastasia calling her “Dirtyella. Cinderella!”

Disney Duster wrote:But one of the biggest things that bothers me about this is the scene of the naming of Cinderella. Drizella calls her “Cinderwench”, which fits because Drizella wears yellow and in the original fairy tale, the meaner stepsister who dressed in yellow called her “Cinderwench”, and that stepsister’s name was Javotte, and in the French dub of Disney’s original Cinderella, they call Drizella Javotte. But then in the trailer Anastasia calls her “Dirtyella” and Drizella calls her “Cinderella!” That may be messing with the characters. If Drizella is the meaner stepsister, Anastasia would be the nicer one, and the nicer one in the original fairy tale is the one who called her Cinderella instead of Cinderwench. Cinderella is a much nicer, prettier name, that’s why the nicer one called her that. So I think the scene should have gone with Drizella calling her “Cinderwench” and Anastasia calling her “Dirtyella. Cinderella!”

And did you notice how Drizella gasped when the stepmother tore Ella's dress?

Old Fish Tale wrote:

Disney Duster wrote:But one of the biggest things that bothers me about this is the scene of the naming of Cinderella. Drizella calls her “Cinderwench”, which fits because Drizella wears yellow and in the original fairy tale, the meaner stepsister who dressed in yellow called her “Cinderwench”, and that stepsister’s name was Javotte, and in the French dub of Disney’s original Cinderella, they call Drizella Javotte. But then in the trailer Anastasia calls her “Dirtyella” and Drizella calls her “Cinderella!” That may be messing with the characters. If Drizella is the meaner stepsister, Anastasia would be the nicer one, and the nicer one in the original fairy tale is the one who called her Cinderella instead of Cinderwench. Cinderella is a much nicer, prettier name, that’s why the nicer one called her that. So I think the scene should have gone with Drizella calling her “Cinderwench” and Anastasia calling her “Dirtyella. Cinderella!”

And did you noticed how Drizella gasped when the stepmother tore Ella's dress?

I don't know why I get the feeling that Drizella might be a tad nicer than Anastasia in this version. Not only because of the Cinderwench/Cinderella thing (I noticed it as well), but during the dress-tearing scene, when Lady Tremaine said "It would be an insult to take you to the palace dressed in these old rags," Drizella looked sort of worried/concerned at what her mother said, while Anastasia looked more devious. Then Anastasia approached Ella in a "I'm going to get you" way, and when Tremaine tore Ella's sleeve, Drizella gasped.

As for the Cinderwench, we didn't really see who said the name. We only assume it's Drizella. For all we know, Anastasia could've said "Cinderwench. Dirtyella," while Drizella came up with "Cinderella!"

I feel bad for the actress playing Drizella. Her name is not listed on the poster, but Anastasia's is. Sophie McShera does such a great job on Downton Abbey, and it would be cool for her to get some recognition.

Disney's Divinity wrote: Yes, he is.

Great minds think alike You have a good taste, haha.

Disney Duster, did you see the picture below? Lady Tremaine's dress looks similar to the animated one, albeit an updated version.



Also, I notice that the ball is an international affair! I spotted a woman in traditional African attire in the picture below. They must've invited all the royals in the world. I love it!

Marce82 wrote:Actually, this trailer reminds me a bit of "Mirror Mirror", that DREADFUL Snow White remake from a couple of years ago... also felt too colorful and a bit garish.

I liked that film. Better than the Kristen Stewart effort.

Disney Duster wrote:MeerkatKombat, yes, I wish that they didn’t film in already made buildings…but you know, it could be like the Painted Hall is a real place that these people lived in, just like future monarchs lived in palaces made by people before them, you know?

The painted hall belongs to the old naval hospital at Greenwich so its not a palace which slightly annoys me. Lord Nelson lay in state there. It is very grand and quite breathtaking so I do understand why it is used so much. My main problem is I live 10 minutes away and I go there nearly every week so I know it really well. It is quite fun to go up there and watch filming which I'm close enough to do often. Seen quite a few big movies being filmed. Had a mental health assessment there one of the days they were filming Thor.
I did once upon a time think about getting married in the Painted Hall, if it wasn't so expensive...

I re-watched the trailer for yet another time and still love it and am so excited...

Yea Old Fish Tale and tsom, maybe this time Drizella will be the nicer one, which I don't like because it doesn't follow the original film or the original fairy tale. In the original film Anastasia was about as mean as the others, just not quite as much, so Drizella was the meaner one. And because she and Lady Tremaine were meaner, I thought for a while that Lady Tremaine's outfits should have matched Drizella's in color more than Anastasia's, except for the fact that the stepmother's purples, purplish blues, reds, purplish reds, and pinks are more attractive than yellow and green (in my opinion) and she has better taste than her daughters. But for this film, now that she is wearing colors similar to Drizella, now it doesn't make sense to me yet again because Anastasia, who wears pink, is the meaner one just like her mother! The meaner ones should share the similar colors! And I know green is the complementary color of red, so the stepmother's green colors should look good with her red hair, but I really think the the yellowish green and greenish yellow colors look bad on her.

But that picture, tsom, with Ella attending her sleeve, does give her the colors I want, similar to the original film colors! See, they don't clash with her red hair, they look beautiful! All the rest of her costume colors should be like that. But I don't think that costume looks like the original animated one in anything other than color. Except that it comes up to her neck...? I can't tell. And where did you find those two lovely pictures?!

MeerkatKombat, now I see why it may not make sense for the nobility of the film (is that who it is?) to be in the painted hall. Is it the fencing scene that is in that hall? I do wish they had a more appropriate room for whatever scene the hall's in. If they must, build a set for it.

I don't like it. It feels overly sentimental and cheesy, and it's not helped by that kitschy and anachronistic production design in the slightest. It looks so... sterile. I'll reserve full judgment until I see the finished film, but so far the only two things that still keep me interested in it are Cate Blanchett and Kenneth Branagh.

Someone mentioned it looks like Mirror, Mirror and I have to agree. But at least that one didn't take itself seriously and had fun with its premise. What is it with Disney and their current live-action fairytale adaptations, they just have to overdo everything. A little subtlety goes a long way, Disney.

Disney Duster wrote:I re-watched the trailer for yet another time and still love it and am so excited...

I'm glad you are excited. I know this your favourite film and I hope it is everything you want to be. I really hope it does the Disney Cinderella legacy justice. Apart from a few misgivings I do think it is a great trailer and will probably make a great fairy-tale film even if it does look at first glance they might be playing it safe. That being said, we all complained when they did Maleficent and changed the story!

Disney Duster wrote:MeerkatKombat, now I see why it may not make sense for the nobility of the film (is that who it is?) to be in the painted hall. Is it the fencing scene that is in that hall? I do wish they had a more appropriate room for whatever scene the hall's in. If they must, build a set for it.

Yes, dead on, it is the fencing scene. As I said its a small niggle but mostly because I know the place so well its hard for me to not be instantly taken out of any film anytime I see it.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/t ... ney-750772 This is good news. Lets hope this reflects cinema turnout.

Mooky, all Disney films are very sentimental! Critics criticized Walt Disney for his films being sentimental!

MeerkatKombat, I gotta say that even though I enjoyed Maleficent I don't think it was a very good movie and I hope this will be way better than that... But thank you, for what else you said, and the article! What great news!

Disney Duster wrote:Mooky, all Disney films are very sentimental! Critics criticized Walt Disney for his films being sentimental!

Yes, but not eye-rollingly cringeworthy like this. I repeat: subtlety.

Exhibit featuring costumes & props from the movie. Interesting character and plot descriptions accompanying each photo.

http://news.moviefone.ca/2014/11/24/dis ... nagh-2015/

Disney Duster wrote:Aw, Atlantica, I was hoping you would like this trailer… This film does take many things from the original, though. Cinderella’s blonde hair, blue and brown rags, blue dress (because in the original it looks blue at some moments and I don’t know if it is really silver or blue…even though I think it’s silver…), her hair partially up, above/atop her head for the ball, the mice, Lucifer, Cinderella’s horse Major, the dress-ripping scene, the fairy godmother's hooded cloak in her disguise, some of the other character’s names and hair and clothes colors.

Oh I know, I'm so sorry Duster, I was thinking of you the whole time I was watching it ! I don't think those really are similarities though ? Her dress and hair, and her work clothes, are nothing like the original ? At least, in my opinion any way. The names are the main / only similarity to me. The dress ripping is a plot point, so has to be included, no ? If everything was identical to the animated film, that would be a bit silly, but at least take something from it ? Look at Maleficent for example, how she was dressed was superb ! Clearly taken from the film but adapted. Aurora was totally unlike the film which was a disappointment to me at least. Ella here could be wearing any gown (looks quite like Christines 'Think Of Me' costume from the Phantom film) ? Even the iconic Cinderella castle! Sleeping Beauty castle was at least featured (though not with the pinkish hue from the film/parks).

I don't know, I'm not trying to be a negative nelly at all, and I don't want to rain on your parade at all Duster, but I've watched it a lot and get absolutely nothing from the trailer.

Love reading all reactions to the trailer here

Atlantica wrote: I don't know, I'm not trying to be a negative nelly at all, and I don't want to rain on your parade at all Duster, but I've watched it a lot and get absolutely nothing from the trailer.

I have the same mixed feeling. It sometimes doesn't look like the adaption of the animated movie at all. Still, I'm really looking forward to it. Ever since I was a little child, this fairytale has been special to me and I've must have read every version I could find. Disney's was special to me because it gave some more depth to Cinderella herself and I loved the movie for it's simple yet elegant rendition.

This movie however seems to rely more on the old lush fairytale books, were the castle was all gold and grandeur(the castle looks like a mix of Versaille and Schönbrunn in this) and people were dressed like french aristocrats (the fairy godmother in this is). The first time I watched the trailer I was like: wooo hello Nanny Mcphee part 3. All the colors just popped out….But like people said, it's a fairytale in it's own world, so I like they didn't go dark on this one.

Well Mooky we just disagree then.

Fantastic, wonderful find tsom! I loved all those pictures and descriptions! Really cool to know how the stepsisters will uniquely be. And I loved seeing Drizella in yellow and blue, not just yellow and green (she had a little blue on her ballgown in the original). And this film will have the same bells that rang for Cinderella in the original! But all those pictures were amazing!

Atlantica, I understand. It's okay. And I was disappointed with Aurora's costume not being like the original, too. However, I wouldn't say the castle was very much like the original film's either.

Toky, I love what you said. But I also love the grandeur that this alternate take, this just re-imagined version of the original, will have. And yes, I love that this will be colorful, like the original, not dark. Cinderella's fairy tale is special to me also and I read or saw almost any version I could find when I was a child, too.

The trailer still gets me excited every time I watch it!