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oh ok thanks. i'll go check it now.

bradhig wrote:Where was the ship that Cinderella was on going anyway?

Australia, if it had been discovered at the time. That's where "criminals" and such were sent.

Prudence wrote:

bradhig wrote:Where was the ship that Cinderella was on going anyway?

Australia, if it had been discovered at the time. That's where "criminals" and such were sent.

finally a straight answer thats what irrtates me when people beat around the bush.

What's Little Mermaid III about?

bradhig wrote:

Prudence wrote: Australia, if it had been discovered at the time. That's where "criminals" and such were sent.

finally a straight answer thats what irrtates me when people beat around the bush.

What's Little Mermaid III about?

Beating around the bush bothers me, as well.

I have no bloody clue what The Little Mermaid III is about, as the previews didn't tell anything. Pat, my younger sister, said it best: "That could be about ANYTHING! That could be about a rock in the ground!"

However, according to The Little Ariel Website and Forum (littleariel.com), it will be a prequel. Triton's wife will be involved. Apparently, her name was Athena.

So anyway....I just finished watching Cinderella III: A Twist in Time

And I can certaintly say that I enjoyed it. It's actually one of the better DTV's. The animation was pretty good and the story was really interesting. The climax was a real good one and that whole pumkin with Lucifer(trying not to spoil) thing was pretty action orientated. Its still no comparison to the original but of course what Disney sequel can do that? I don't think I would have wanted it to anyway since the original is a classic masterpiece.

The only thing I kind of didnt like was the song's...I like the song Gus and Jaq sing and Cinderella's song with it's reprise....but other then that the song's were kind of goofy.

Anyways Cinderella III will most likley get replayed in my DVD player...perhaps when I get Cinderella II I'll watch all of them in order one day, even though I hear Cinderella II: Dreams Come True kinda sucks...

Wrt Little Mermaid III, my understanding also is it's a prequel.

Also fired up Anastasia's climatic scene tonight to see how it compared to Cindy's. To be fair, Anastasia's budget was probably 4 times that of Cindy III, so Anastasia had a lot more 3D (though not as well blended in with 2D), and a ton of effects animation. Anastasia was more of a wrestler, and there was one funny bit where she so overjoyed her mate (Demetri) survived the battle, she whips her arms out with joy, accidentally whacking him in the head without knowing it, only to apologize a second later

jeremy88 wrote: Anyways Cinderella III will most likley get replayed in my DVD player...perhaps when I get Cinderella II I'll watch all of them in order one day, even though I hear Cinderella II: Dreams Come True kinda sucks...

I think it would be hard to compare this one to the original, since they are so different really. The only thing that I thought severely detracted from this one being excellent was the opening, including the opening song, which I felt seemed very direct-to-video in style; very kiddie targetted. I do have to give Cindy action hero props for this one, because of the whole thing where she breaks out of the coach and walks along the edge and stops it. That was Indiana Jones stuff there. It rocked though, and it made her hotter than ever, ha!

Anyway, I'm just posting to say that I plan to watch all three consecutively too, probably Sunday night, but tough to say (wanted to do it sooner, but I'm too busy), and that Cinderella 2 is best when you know what to expect. My opinion of it is that it is cute and entertaining, but only if you accept it for what it is: an anthology film. It's just three (or four? I forget) cute little stories, kinda like Belle's Magical World but better quality, about Cinderella and her friends after they moved into the palace. It's not like a big movie or anything, just some cute stories. I don't mind it, but it was false advertised. They should have called it "Mouse Mouse Tales" or something (been sayin' that since it came out). Didn't love the pop songs though. I really don't like pop songs in movies that take place long ago, unless it's a comedy or something, or you get someone really amazing to sing/compose them, but not bubblegum pop!

But, back to Cinderella 3, I really think this one could have gone to theaters, but they would have needed to make the opening of the film slightly less giddy cutesey. I still feel Bambi 2 was better, as I only had one complaint about that film (again, the modern songs), but both could have gone big screen, in my opinion, and were far more worthy of the big screen than Jungle Book 2 and somewhat more than Return to Neverland (which I generally liked, but had too many problems for a big screen release).

kurtadisneyite wrote:Wrt Little Mermaid III, my understanding also is it's a prequel.

Also fired up Anastasia's climatic scene tonight to see how it compared to Cindy's. To be fair, Anastasia's budget was probably 4 times that of Cindy III, so Anastasia had a lot more 3D (though not as well blended in with 2D), and a ton of effects animation. Anastasia was more of a wrestler, and there was one funny bit where she so overjoyed her mate (Demetri) survived the battle, she whips her arms out with joy, accidentally whacking him in the head without knowing it, only to apologize a second later

You've better be lucky your dvd player survived that ending might fry it.

After the dalek invasion I have new anastasia fanfic in mind the cybermen show up and so the does the doctor.

I wanna see more but I don't think anymore sequels are coming.

Can anyone post more pics from 'Enchanted Tales'? It would be wonderful to see what all the fuss is / isnt about!

On the music side of things, people were complaining that there would not enought nods to the first films score, especially "Bibbidi...". Well, I was watching the 8 minute preview (again) and noticed that they do infact have a tiny, tiny peice of music that is in fact "Bibbidi.."!

Its the scene where Anastasia is having the slipper fitted to her foot, right after Stepmother makes it bigger. The music goes quiet, then suddenly when the Paige - man says "It fits!", Bibidi can clearly be heard it the backround!

Check it out!

But I agree, they should have made use of the first movies score and songs.

i didn't hear anything
but it is possible

also ,can someone post a clip from the movie or the enchanted tales clip on youtube?
i would love to see that.

Atlanticaunderthesea and Flanger-Hanger, thank you for thinking of me, once again! I do have the DVD...I have watched it...but I don't want to post my thoughts yet. I'm going to critique this thing to the bone, saying everything I liked and didn't like, and how I would have done things. I'm even thinking of starting a whole new thread devoted to my review and what I would have done, like my re-write of Cinderella II. Of course, NO WAY would I completely re-write III like I did II, because III had so much good in it! The thing is, the movie itself is a very good one, in my opinion, it's just that it had plot points from The Little Mermaid and other films when they could have tried to avoid that! So I will get back to everyone later... But still, for a basic opinion, I LOVED most of what I watched. The ending just felt anti-climactic because of what happens to Lady Tremaine and Drizella. And perhaps I am the only one, but I liked "Perfectly Perfect". I would have done it differently, with more reprises and a lot more speaking inbetween, but I liked it...

As for Anastasia's singing, yea, she only played the fife in the original film, but I can see how people would still not be happy with her good singing since she was tone-deaf with the fife, and being tone-deaf prevents you from being good at any music, correct?

Tsom, it's true that she could just be saying her feelings and they make it a song, but since people sing in real life, and Cinderella and the Prince sang "So This is Love" to the waltz that was really playing, I think the ideas of actually singing and simply expressing thoughts through song are too blended. I think Anastasia's speaking voice actress should have just sung, which would not sound good, but it would at least be believable and she could even talk-sing or half-sing it. It would be bearable since she doesn't sing for very long at all.

I, too, was wondering where the heck you were, Disney Duster. As soon as I finished watching the film for the first time, I came to this thread expecting you to have already posted, and was shocked when you didn't. I'm looking forward to your detailed critique of the film. It wouldn't surprise me if we have a lot of the same praises and concerns.

Oh, wow Disneykid, thanks! Man, UD makes me feel so worthy, so...noticed! Anyway, my review will be super long, but I will try to designate parts that people have already talked about, and not dwell on those. Your critique was great, and I enjoyed reading it. It's strange, I actually enjoy reading other people's opinions, but I think everyone does, unless they haven't seen the movie. Since you said you actually looked forward to my own review, I'll actually give feedback to yours:

Yes, the animation was beautiful and fluid, and most of my problems with it were just that Lady Tremaine didn't look right a lot, or at least, to me. But Cinderella was perfection, and I agree with you that for some reason when she smiled, or her face lit up, that was especially beautiful and it looked very on-model to me. Some of the animation looked perfectly perfect!

Anastasia...well, I thought she could have been a bit meaner to Cinderella. In the original, when Cinderella comes downstairs, you can hear her try to tell the Duke that she's of no importance. However, she could have just been following her mother and sister, and perhaps now is just the time when she breaks away from them. So, I wasn't perfectly happy with her turnaround, but I can't think of too many ways to do it better, so it's not a big problem for me, actually. But I agree that she was not turned around suddenly or completely.

The score was good, did give atmosphere, especially in the climax, all like you said, and I'll add that it evoked the original a lot, in my opinion. But they really should have had some eerie versions of the old favorites, like an evil Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo (without words, just background music, as Lady Tremaine could not know the whole spell). As for the songs themselves, well, you're right, I don't think the visuals matched "Perfectly Perfect", which should have at least had some moments with violins and classy dancing music for when the happy couple are re-enacting there night at the ball. As for the "forgettable" songs "At The Ball" and "More Than A Dream", I had "More Than A Dream" in my head, and I loved that melody, while echoes of "At The Ball" rang through my mind. But they aren't masterpieces, of course, and perhaps I merely remembered them from the 8-minute sneak peek and the web sites's background music.

As for the characters, yes, I thought Cinderella was totally herself, just "modernized". Since Prince Charming had nothing in the beginning, almost whatever they gave him would have been legit, and I loved him. My problem with him was mostly that his voice was different, which perhaps couldn't have been avoided, though I noticed him speak in ways that reminded me of his original voice...

I'm so glad you got to see what you wanted in this sequel, a nicely animated version of the coach going through hills and trees, and all action-packed! I don't know what my favorite part of this movie was, but that was obviously one of them.

I never noticed the fonts at the end matched the original's fonts at the beginning! I'll have to check that out!

I didn't mind the slapstick, and honestly...I laughed, when I usually don't...then again, it was late at night. Actually, I think one of the best scenes was the slapstick-filled dance between Anastasia and the Prince.

As for the King and Duke not noticing Anastasia looked super different from Cinderella...well, perhaps my belief is suspended, but I went along with it...I didn't even think of it, actually. Good job for picking that out.

Cinderella meeting the hypnotized Prince was just a weird scene. I can't really figure it all out, but yes, her giggling was a bit much. But, in the original she didn't realize she was with the Prince, and when she found out she was so shocked. I think his royal status kind of...made her nervous, and people laugh when they're nervous. I didn't think it was as bad as you thought, and something nice was when Jennifer Hale laughed, it sounded so much Illene Wood's laughing, and I loved that.

SPOILERS READ THIS WITHOUT WATCHING THE MOVIE AND YOU MAY EXPLODE:
Yea! Your idea for a beast coming out of the vortex would have been a much better idea. Seriously, I could have accepted a lot of bizarre things if they made the end more exciting and original! Reflecting what the person throws at you so it hits them was okay, since it's a pretty basic idea, but it certainly has been done with magic like a bajillion times, especially in television. To expand on your beast idea, I had previously thought that Lady Tremaine might make Lucifer a giant cat monster, and the Prince would ride on his horse to fight him. I was hoping they wouldn't do that because that would be way too Sleeping Beauty, but seriously, I would have taken that over what really happened because it would have been more exciting! And your "lame" comment keeps making me laugh every time I read it. It's funny because it's TRUE! Trying to kill Cindy and the Prince would make much more sense and be much more exciting. I actually didn't think about it but you are so right, killing is almost the only thing that fits because she tried to kill Cindy in the coach. I will talk about the possible better endings in my full critique...I'm sorry this is so long as it is!

Oh yea, and Bruno, Major, and the other mice should have been at the party at least. Someone here mentioned they should have been at the party, too. It would have been cute to see Major trying to help with decorations and he has them in his mouth, or something. And why wasn't Cindy riding Major, was he too old?

The seeming lack of magic rules is something I for some reason failed to notice, or at least that "Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo" was not always said. Yet, in the original, sometimes the Fairy Godmother made a ryhme, like "For instead of a horse, why the coachman of course!" and then say "Bibbidi Bobbidi Boo". But she made Major rise in the air while she was merely rhyming, so was it the ryhme that did it or just putting Disney dust under him? Also, it's small, the pumpkin lit up without saying a ryhme or "Bibbidi Bobbie Boo", when she just pointed at it saying, "A pumpkin."

The rules of magic could have played a very important, and possibly less predictable or more climactic ending than the one given to this sequel, which I will further discuss in my review.

I know that seemed like my critique and review...but it wasn't. I'll let you know, I will certainly be repeating a lot of what I said here, if you still want to read it. Since part of why you said you wanted to read my review was to see what we agreed and disagreed on, well, I guess I kind of already did that. I'm just going to go really in-depth and bring up a lot more. I'm going to get into technical stuff like more wand rules and re-animation from the original, but if you didn't want to read my super long critique, I would understand. You don't even have to give me much feedback or anything. I just want to get my own feelings out, and all of them, since this sequel was/is so important to me.

slave2moonlight wrote:I have for a long time been worried that the horse that was Cinderella's friend in the first one died or something! He wasn't even in part 2!

OMG! If you were really worried, I think they were just lazy and didn't think to use him.

Ok I saw the speacial sneak peek of Aurora's kingdom of kndness trailer, and while the animation isn't great, I don't see what's the big hoo-ha about with the song or music. Sure not operaic like in the begining when she first enter the forest, but it's nice any way.

Now one hope i have which probably won't happen: If only they get rid of that ugly-ass dress she wears when dancing with Philip.

My mom bought me the DVD for my birthday! (I'm not supposed to know, but well, I was there ). I am so happy! I won't have to cross my policy of one Disney DVD a month!

i finally found a clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hFbovh7TIc
i love the song

Disney Duster, I too wondered where you were. Before, I was thinking that on Tuesday, you would have been the first one on this board to write a review, but I was wrong. Then I began to worry when I didn't see your thoughts on the movie as the days went by. If this was not your review, then I can't possibly imagine how long the real review will be! But, I can't wait to read that one.

I too liked Perfectly Perfect. I haven't seen the movie yet (even though I'm a big Cinderella fan) but I've seen clips of the first 1 minute of the film and I like the song and how the movie was introduced. I liked how the happy couple was introduced too. It seemed that Cinderella and her Prince did live happily ever after.

*SPOILERS for those who haven't seen the movie yet*

Well, this movie was really good. There were only a couple things that bugged me about it:

~ My biggest issue with the movie was Lady Tremaine. I don't know what it is, but little things seemed off about her all the time. For one, why is she so ruthless, even to her own daughters? Drizella I can understand, but not her. The thing that made her so despicable in the original was how she so unfairly doted on them while forcing Cinderella out of her sight. I believe she truly cared about them, even if she was a horrible woman. And, as much as I think she wanted one of her daughters to marry the prince, I honestly don't think her ultimate motive was just to get "power" and "riches," although that was obviously one of the perks. Also, her animation was a mixed bag. At times, she looked exactly like herself. Then, she would just look..."wrong" for one reason or another. As for characterization on the whole, I find myself really being weirded about by the King's part in the story. I'm glad they gave him more depth, but he was missing the "madness" that made him all so entertaining in the first movie.

~ Cinderella's voice. I don't know what it was, but she just wasn't Cinderella. It was one of the main reasons I couldn't stand to hear her sing. And don't even make me start on Anastasia's "singing."

~ The beginning and ending. Although I really did enjoy "Perfectly Perfect," it felt like there really was no beginning. It would've worked if I had watched the original directly before it, but not as an individual movie. And the whole "battle" scene was horribly done. I expected the stepmother to enchant the whole crowd and church or something, not turn a few measly guards into farm animals. The pumpkin ride and the false wedding made it feel like the movie was leading up to a final showdown, but it just didn't happen.

Now that that's over with, I'll just mention a few things I did like. I really enjoyed Jaq and Gus this time. "At The Ball" was definitely the best song in the whole movie. Then there's the Prince. To me, there was nowhere to go but up with him, but for some reason he didn't remind of the first movie's Prince. Probably because I actually liked him here (I found the Prince of the original to be very underdeveloped and nearly non-existant). I found myself loving the Fairy Godmother as well. She was animated so wonderfully and just seemed so likable that I could completely look past the voice (which wasn't unbearable, only a little more high-pitched than the original). Finally, there's the "traveling back in time" scene. To me, it was the best part of the whole movie, but it reminded me of something. I don't know if anyone here's seen We're Back! A Dinosaur Story, or even remembers it if they have, but the music of the time-traveling part reminded me of when the two kids entered the circus. Still, overall, I liked the movie. The fact that I've watched it three times proves it.

Wow. I went into Cinderella III with a lot of expectations and I must say that almost all of them were met.

I hadn't been this excited about a Disney sequel since "The Little Mermaid II" and I was somewhat disappointed by that installment.

I agree with a lot of the pros and cons listed, but one thing I don't agree with is that the songs are "forgettable". I've had At the Ball in my head for days. And I loved that they didn't incorporate the silly pop song music video style format from Cinderella II.

Shycode, what scene of CIII did __that__ Cindy come from? Looks like she's about ready to take somebody's head off!

I've listened to both old and new Cindy voices. Jennifer Hale (voice of current Cindy and many other princesses for some time) actually sounded the most like Cinderella 1 (Ilene Woods) when she did the Cindy Voice in CINDERELLAS DOLLHOUSE (the first one, not the new 3D version). In C-III she seems to be a little higher pitched in tone, a little sharper, and lacking the lower range Ilene Woods had. When she talks softly, she seems to be closest to Ilene.

Then again, C-111 is a more pro active Cindy, so the slightly edgier voice kinda fits in.

Also, there were two voices for Cindy in CIII - Tammy Taplin was Cindy III's singing voice.