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Now the dubb credits problem has been fixed !

Oh, that's great DisneyFan97!

Soul was cute, but lowkey confusing. I enjoyed it though, but didn't cry like I think I would. I'm admittedly not a crier when watching movies though. The two Pixar exceptions were Toy Story 3 and Coco.

I loved Soul, but I didn't cry, either, like I've done with other Pixar films. I found the movie more thought-provoking than out-right emotional. But everyone is different. I never cry at the Bing Bong scene in Inside Out, but the scene where Riley returns home hits me hard.

The John Ratzenberger Easter Egg in Pixar's 'Soul' has Been Found!
https://www.pixarpost.com/2021/01/john- ... r-egg.html

Outcry Across Europe As Joe, The Black Lead Of Pixar’s ‘Soul,’ Is Dubbed By White Actors
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Sotiris wrote:Outcry Across Europe As Joe, The Black Lead Of Pixar’s ‘Soul,’ Is Dubbed By White Actors
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This is getting ridiculous... it's like expecting a black voice actor to do the chinese dub of the movie...

It always happened that way, Tiana was also voiced by white voice actresses and I never heard any outcry about it.

^^ Agreed. This is getting completely nuts.

Frankly I expect better from Europe - the continent I call home.

Agree !

This is ridiculous

Every country does not have a great abounds of black actors

I think it's more important who ever voices the role can actually act and has a voice similar to Jamie Fox!

This outrage is stupid

In recent weeks, questions began circling regarding Pixar’s “Soul” and its composers Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross, along with the inclusion of musician Jon Batiste, who brought the jazz elements to the film. The music has qualified for the BAFTA Awards and has been confirmed to have been entered for the Oscars, with all three musicians submitted for the category. The Academy ultimately decides who is eligible and if the music does, in fact, qualify.

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^Why did they think the score might not be eligible? Is it because of Jon Batiste's part of the score, which I assume includes pre-existing jazz compositions, or is it for example, that there can't be more than two people credited as composers?

D82 wrote:The John Ratzenberger Easter Egg in Pixar's 'Soul' has Been Found!
https://www.pixarpost.com/2021/01/john- ... r-egg.html

I'm surprised they dont mention this, but they did something different here.

Usually he voices a character that we both see and hear. in Soul he does appear in the form of that carticature extra. But do I understand right this character doesn't talk? I point this out because his voice is it, but his character appears off screen during the part where Joe tries to find a job and gets turned down. This would be a clever twist to the usual that fits the theme of the movie, the whole soul being separated from the body thing. So his cameo is split into two pieces: One in the form of a character you can see but not hear, and another you can hear but not see.

bruno_wbt wrote:

Sotiris wrote:Outcry Across Europe As Joe, The Black Lead Of Pixar’s ‘Soul,’ Is Dubbed By White Actors
https://www.cartoonbrew.com/voice-actin ... 00918.html

This is getting ridiculous... it's like expecting a black voice actor to do the Chinese dub of the movie...

It always happened that way, Tiana was also voiced by white voice actresses and I never heard any outcry about it.

Its ridiculous to expect every country to be sensitive to this stuff the same way we are, especially when dubbing comes with its own unique set of challenges. Typically they try to match the tone and personality of the base voice the best they can. So it sounds as close as possible. They also have to be able to act within the confines of matching the lip flaps of a movie that's been pre animated, in another language no less. Just let them do their job. You dont see this person, its not their responsibility to make sure they look the part at all. Its a job where they could hire a younger white woman if she happened to sound the part. (that would never happen but I'm using an extreme example here)

Kyle wrote:

D82 wrote:The John Ratzenberger Easter Egg in Pixar's 'Soul' has Been Found!
https://www.pixarpost.com/2021/01/john- ... r-egg.html

I'm surprised they dont mention this, but they did something different here.

Usually he voices a character that we both see and hear. in Soul he does appear in the form of that carticature extra. But do I understand right this character doesn't talk? I point this out because his voice is it, but his character appears off screen during the part where Joe tries to find a job and gets turned down. This would be a clever twist to the usual that fits the theme of the movie, the whole soul being separated from the body thing. So his cameo is split into two pieces: One in the form of a character you can see but not hear, and another you can hear but not see.

That's right, the extra that looks like him doesn't talk. I don't think it has been confirmed that line of dialogue is by John Ratzenberger, but it does sound like him, so you're probably right. If that's the case, I'm glad they haven't broken the tradition of having his voice in the movie and I agree it's a clever and fitting way of having him make a cameo.

D82 wrote:Why did they think the score might not be eligible? Is it because of Jon Batiste's part of the score, which I assume includes pre-existing jazz compositions, or is it for example, that there can't be more than two people credited as composers?

It must be because of the pre-existing jazz compositions. The original score must comprise 60% of the total music in a film. I don't believe having three composers is an issue. From the Academy's rule book:

A score must be created specifically for the eligible feature-length motion picture and comprise a minimum of 60% of the total music in the film. If a score does not meet the minimum 60%, the composer may submit a letter to the Branch Executive Committee, stating reasons for the score to be accepted for consideration.

No more than one statuette will normally be given in the Original Score category. A second statuette may be awarded when two credited composers function as equal collaborators, each contributing fully to the original dramatic underscore for the film. In cases where three or more credited composers function as equal collaborators, a single statuette may be awarded to the group.

Pixar's 'Soul' Debuts at No. 1 in Nielsen Streaming Rankings
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Sotiris wrote:It must be because of the pre-existing jazz compositions. The original score must comprise 60% of the total music in a film. I don't believe having three composers is an issue.

OK, thanks for clearing it up for me! I guess they probably made sure the percentage of pre-existing music didn't exceed the other 40%, so it could be eligible.

What ‘Soul’s Huge Christmas Debut Means For Disney+
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Presuming the average ticket price in 2020, $9.37, that would be the equivalent of an opening weekend between $146 million and $177 million in domestic theaters...$146 million opening weekend would be about equal to the $135 million Fri-Sun domestic debut of Finding Dory...the $177 million debut would be about equal to the $184 million opening of Incredibles 2. Finding Dory and Incredibles 2 both broke the respective record for an animated feature...Even if we argue that a domestic theatrical launch for Soul would be, at best, closer to the $90 million launch of Docter’s Inside Out (which was, at the time, the biggest-ever opening for an original movie), Inside Out legged out to $353 million domestic...

‘Soul’: Read The Screenplay For Pixar’s Pic With An Existential Twist
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I finally saw Soul last night and I must say that I liked it. It was a better movie than Onward (which I happened to look more forward to). Though some parts were confusing at first, it was still (in true Pete Docter-fashion) a resonant and compelling story. The fish-out-of-water scenes were investing enough and the visuals were great. But the score was the true star of the picture, where some bits of it reminded me of Wreck-It-Ralph and Big Hero 6. Otherwise, a good movie and while not Docter`s very finest, it still deserves to be close among them.