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Re: Mulan (Live-Action)
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:26 pm
by Farerb
JeanGreyForever wrote:farerb wrote:
How is Beauty and the Beast their most sold animated classic on Blu-ray and they haven't released it on UHD yet?
I mean, they haven't released Snow White either which is after Beauty and the Beast. And Frozen, which was ahead of Beauty and the Beast, just got a release that wasn't marketed at all and was released in a wave with other titles.
Aren't we still expecting a March release for BATB in 4K? It should be coming soon enough.
The German listing turned out to be the Live Action so I don't know anymore.
Re: Mulan (Live-Action)
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:24 am
by JeanGreyForever
farerb wrote:JeanGreyForever wrote:
I mean, they haven't released Snow White either which is after Beauty and the Beast. And Frozen, which was ahead of Beauty and the Beast, just got a release that wasn't marketed at all and was released in a wave with other titles.
Aren't we still expecting a March release for BATB in 4K? It should be coming soon enough.
The German listing turned out to be the Live Action so I don't know anymore.
Oh that's super depressing. I had high hopes for BATB in 4K coming out in a few months.
Re: Mulan (Live-Action)
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:03 am
by Farerb
I had as well. But it still might be released, just not listed.
Re: Mulan (Live-Action)
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:15 am
by JeanGreyForever
I hope so and I also hope we hear more about the Signature Editions for The Jungle Book and Fantasia sometime soon.
Disney has done BATB a great disservice all these years and for that matter, Cinderella and Alice in Wonderland too. As glad as I am that they finally fixed The Sword in the Stone on 4K, I have to admit that it's shocking that a C-List Disney film which has maybe not even a handful of fans in the whole world got better treatment than three bonafide classics. If I had to throw one of these films to the wolves, I'd sacrifice The Sword in the Stone in a heartbeat.
Re: Mulan (Live-Action)
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:21 am
by Farerb
This is just a theory of mine but I think Disney is aware that The Sword in the Stone was messed up and that's why they worked on it or The Black Cauldron which never got an HD master before D+. I think TSitS Blu-ray got really bad reviews while Cinderella, Alice in Wonderland and Beauty and the Beast were praised so that might have factored into their decision.
Re: Mulan (Live-Action)
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:18 am
by Sotiris
Q: Does the Phoenix have any voice at all or is it just mute?
Skyler Shuler: As far as I know the Phoenix does NOT speak, but neither did Iago in Disney’s live-action Aladdin until a last minute change.
Source:
https://twitter.com/SkylerShuler/status ... 9426749440
Re: Mulan (Live-Action)
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:56 pm
by JeanGreyForever
farerb wrote:This is just a theory of mine but I think Disney is aware that The Sword in the Stone was messed up and that's why they worked on it or The Black Cauldron which never got an HD master before D+. I think TSitS Blu-ray got really bad reviews while Cinderella, Alice in Wonderland and Beauty and the Beast were praised so that might have factored into their decision.
Disney is apparently most embarrassed about their restoration for The Sword in the Stone to the point that they wouldn't even use screencaps or gifs from it on their social media accounts. So I can see why they felt the need to restore it and went all the way to 4K rather than eventually have to do it again. The Black Cauldron must be one they're sitting on. I'm assuming that the real classic films will all eventually get proper 4K restorations when Disney decides to release them on physical whenever that will be.
Sotiris wrote:Q: Does the Phoenix have any voice at all or is it just mute?
Skyler Shuler: As far as I know the Phoenix does NOT speak, but neither did Iago in Disney’s live-action Aladdin until a last minute change.
Source:
https://twitter.com/SkylerShuler/status ... 9426749440
The Phoenix I honestly hope doesn't speak. Usually in films, phoenixes don't speak anyway so it would seem a little jarring unlike they cast a very majestic voice.
Re: Mulan (Live-Action)
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:03 pm
by Disney's Divinity
@Sotiris: We've known that for a while, but as for the comparison to Iago, I don't expect the phoenix to get a last minute change here.
Re: Mulan (Live-Action)
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:35 pm
by Sotiris
Disney's Divinity wrote:The fact that Mulan (dressed as a man because women aren't allowed to fight by China) is fighting a female villain who
is allowed to fight openly as a woman (making her country less oppressive than Mulan's, apparently) in order to uphold the misogynist Empire from which Mulan comes is definitely....

That's a great point. Why should we, as audience, root for the Chinese to win when the Rourans are presented as less oppressive to women than them?
Re: Mulan (Live-Action)
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:44 pm
by Sotiris
Ming-Na Wen Plays Coy About Possible 'Mulan' Cameo in Live-Action Film
https://www.etonline.com/media/videos/m ... ive-131090
Live-Action 'Mulan' Star Utkarsh Ambudkar Defends Movie Not Being a Shot-for-Shot Remake
https://www.etonline.com/media/videos/l ... hot-remake
On Set of Disney’s Live-Action ‘Mulan’
https://www.etonline.com/media/videos/o ... ive-138253
Re: Mulan (Live-Action)
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:49 pm
by Sotiris
Re: Mulan (Live-Action)
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:36 pm
by Disney's Divinity
That's a nice picture.
Sotiris wrote:Disney's Divinity wrote:The fact that Mulan (dressed as a man because women aren't allowed to fight by China) is fighting a female villain who
is allowed to fight openly as a woman (making her country less oppressive than Mulan's, apparently) in order to uphold the misogynist Empire from which Mulan comes is definitely....

That's a great point. Why should we, as audience, root for the Chinese to win when the Rourans are presented as less oppressive to women than them?
I thought so.

I had planned to reiterate it later since it went under the radar.

Re: Mulan (Live-Action)
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:14 pm
by Disney Duster
Sotiris wrote:JeanGreyForever wrote:I didn't see anyone complain that Cinderella lost all its songs, relegated to end-credits only, or that Alice in Wonderland or Maleficent got rid of the classic songs too.
I actually do have a problem with that, especially with Cinderella which was a straightforward adaptation and not a reimagining.
I thought Cinderella was in-between a straightforward adaptation and a reimagining. I actually think Disney used the term reimagining in promotion.
Sotiris wrote:JeanGreyForever wrote:A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes is a Disney anthem, probably second to When You Wish Upon a Star. So This is Love is one of the most popular Disney love songs and Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo is outright one of the most iconic Disney songs like Heigh-Ho. Even the Cinderella Work Song is referenced so many times in pop culture with the mice. Cinderella easily has one of the most iconic Walt Disney soundtracks of all time, like Snow White, Pinocchio, Mary Poppins, The Jungle Book, etc.
I agree with you about the Cinderella soundtrack. I love it too. It's actually my favorite Walt-era soundtrack. But I think we're a minority when it comes to this. I believe not even Duster likes the soundtrack much.
I love the soundtrack but only out of love for the film. I think the actual songs are not on par with those of Snow White and Bambi. I consider those the best of Walt Disney's music, and that's why I wish the music was as good as those, because I see them as the best. But I now see the soundtrack as some of Disney's best, even if not in the very top.
I'm glad you guys made up.

Re: Mulan (Live-Action)
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:35 pm
by Sotiris
Disney Duster wrote:I thought Cinderella was in-between a straightforward adaptation and a reimagining. I actually think Disney used the term reimagining in promotion.
I can't remember what Disney called it, but I believe it falls in the "faithful yet expanded" category alongside Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin.
Re: Mulan (Live-Action)
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:28 am
by REINIER
Just saw the trailer in cinemas...really gorgeous look.. since it will steer away from it's animated counter part it has me intrigued. So glad they went for an Asian actress!
Re: Mulan (Live-Action)
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:39 am
by JeanGreyForever
REINIER wrote:Just saw the trailer in cinemas...really gorgeous look.. since it will steer away from it's animated counter part it has me intrigued. So glad they went for an Asian actress!
I'm glad to see someone else is interested in something different from the original animated film. But what did you expect they were going to cast her as, a white woman?
Re: Mulan (Live-Action)
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:38 pm
by Disney Duster
Sotiris wrote:Disney Duster wrote:I thought Cinderella was in-between a straightforward adaptation and a reimagining. I actually think Disney used the term reimagining in promotion.
I can't remember what Disney called it, but I believe it falls in the "faithful yet expanded" category alongside Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin.
Yeah, I can't remember either. But with how the film didn't have any of the music of the original and even went as far as to make Cinderella's real name Ella, as well as reading they intended this to be the definitive live-action version of Cinderella, I see the film as both a remake of the 1950 film and a new version of the Cinderella story, and not a straight-up remake. But you have your opinion and it's different and that's alright.
Re: Mulan (Live-Action)
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:12 pm
by REINIER
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I'm glad to see someone else is interested in something different from the original animated film. But what did you expect they were going to cast her as, a white woman?[/quote]
Well.. since Ariel is going to be portrayed by a person of color...anythings possible with Disney
Re: Mulan (Live-Action)
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:36 pm
by Farerb
Not the same thing. Casting a black actress is seen as progressive, while casting someone other than Asian for Mulan will only bring backlash.
Re: Mulan (Live-Action)
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:36 pm
by Sotiris