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Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:43 pm
by Old Fish Tale
I don't think anyone needs to see the film if that's the shooting script. But honestly, all we have right now is a still. I'll wait for more before giving up on this...

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:52 pm
by disneyboy20022
Another Spoiler I remember

I think after King Henry announces the wedding between his daughter and Stefan, he poisons Henry to become King

Also when they decide to part with Aurora, the queen objects but Stefan says you'll have other kids won't you? and plucks her out and hands her to the 3 fairies who Need I say are not Flora, Fauna, or Merryweather, as these three fairies hate the idea but Stefan threatens them. By the time the 16th Birthday comes they are glad to be rid of her.


Also yeah I agree with you Old Fish Tale. IF it is this script no one needs to see it, but I'll still hold out hope for now they did some major changes to this.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:49 pm
by Disney Duster
Yea, reversing the good to bad and the bad to good is not how you show how a character becomes evil!
DisneyJedi wrote:I don't know if Maleficent will pull her one-winged angel move in the movie at this point, but I really hope they don't skip out on it.
What one-winged angel move?

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:16 pm
by WonderNeverOz
[quote="Disney Duster"]Yea, reversing the good to bad and the bad to good is not how you show how a character becomes evil!

*cough* Regina/Evil Queen *cough*

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:18 pm
by Disney Duster
Wait do you agree with me or not? Because Snow White was never bad.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:30 pm
by WonderNeverOz
Disney Duster wrote:Wait do you agree with me or not? Because Snow White was never bad.
wait i read the script but i dont remember it exactly. it's king stephan who's bad isn't it? aurora isn't, is she?

I think turning bad into not exactly pure evil does work sometimes, like once upon a time, but it's rare i think, and it's safer to go down with a storyline, like theodora in oz the great and powerful.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:42 pm
by Disney Duster
I think Once Upon a Time did it half good, because Snow White got tricked into doing what she did. I was thinking instead she could have done what she did for the sake of her father over Regina. I don't know.

Oz the Great and Powerful did it ok.

And this Maleficent script is doing it horribly.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:38 pm
by Kraken Guard
That's sort of an understatement. Cripes, I think fanfiction writers do it better than this.

As far as the whole One-Winged Angel thing?

It's referencing her transformation into a dragon.
I think, in the leaked script, there is a dragon transformation near the end. But it's not by Maleficent herself; she turns Diablo - or Diaval - into various animals in order to defend herself from Stefan's soldiers - Bear, Dragon, and butterfly, to avoid being killed in the same fashion, like in the original.



I don't like this. I don't like it at all.

I fear it's going to ruin Maleficent's character; not just in the film, but in general as well. And I fear they're going to replace the original with the new one in everything(Merchandising, etc.), and I don't want that. :cry:

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:15 pm
by Jay
I don't think they are going to replace the animated character with Jolie's Maleficent on merchandise. Look at Glenn Close's Cruella. They only use the animated Cruella on the merchandise. And look at Amy Adams as Giselle. She isn't in the princess franchise because of the royalties contract. They will probably have a lot of merchandise for the movie itself but I can not see them using Jolie's Maleficent on stuff after the movie has been released. It will go the same way pretty much every other live action Disney film does merchandise wise.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:53 pm
by Super Aurora
Disney Duster wrote:Yea, reversing the good to bad and the bad to good is not how you show how a character becomes evil!
DisneyJedi wrote:I don't know if Maleficent will pull her one-winged angel move in the movie at this point, but I really hope they don't skip out on it.
What one-winged angel move?
One wing angel is referenced to Sephiroth. He's main villian in final fantasy 7. One wing angel was his theme song. The theme starts when he transforms into a god like being that fires meteors at you.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:30 pm
by Disney Duster
Thanks Chris. So, he meant is Maleficent's constant magic, attacks, and dragon transformation going to be in this film?
Kraken Guard wrote:I fear it's going to ruin Maleficent's character; not just in the film, but in general as well. And I fear they're going to replace the original with the new one in everything(Merchandising, etc.), and I don't want that. :cry:
They won't let her replace the original Maleficent. It will only last for a while like Cinderella's new look isn't going to stay around forever.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:44 pm
by Kraken Guard
That's good. I would not want them to replace the original with this one. Especially given the direction this film is taking.

As a side-note, what do you mean by Cinderella's new look? Do you mean the whole princess redesign thing going on?

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:04 pm
by Disney Duster

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:11 pm
by Kraken Guard
Disney Duster wrote:Yea, this princess makeover thing.
I see!

That's funny; from what I've read, a lot of people made it out like it was a permanent thing; that they changed the designs of the princesses for some, unknown reason, and were keeping them in the new design.

Can't say I understand why there would be such a hassle, if such a thing was temporary, though.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:32 pm
by Disney Duster
Well we were afraid it wasn't temporary but we have nothing to suggest it will be permanent yet as we've seen future merchandise will hold their original designs.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:59 pm
by Kraken Guard
Disney Duster wrote:Well we were afraid it wasn't temporary but we have nothing to suggest it will be permanent yet as we've seen future merchandise will hold their original designs.
I think it would be extremely silly if it were permanent, because there is nothing wrong with the original, and there is absolutely no need to redesign them. Sure, Cinderella might be missing her ears, but it can't be that hard to re-add them to the original.

It would be like making the Designer Doll versions of the Disney Villains the official design. T'would be extremely silly of them to do so.

And sweet mistress of all evil, the sparkly dresses would put even Edward to shame.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:18 pm
by bradhig
This sounds like it's going to be a sob story and no happy ending for Maleficent.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:42 pm
by disneyboy20022
Also it's been announced that Sleeping Beauty will be a Diamond Blu Ray edition in fall of 2014 a few months after Maleficent will be in theaters

Discussion here

http://www.dvdizzy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30965

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:33 pm
by Disney Duster
Kraken Guard wrote:Sure, Cinderella might be missing her ears, but it can't be that hard to re-add them to the original.
She is not missing her ears! They are covered by her hair and big earrings!!!

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:25 pm
by bradhig
They need to abandon this at once. From what I read she turns to evil cause some dumb king who deserved to
die poisons her lover.