It all depends on Disney marketing this one more strongly and actively as it is their big finale for Disney 100.DisneyJedi wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:27 am I’m desperately praying this movie does amazing critically and financially. Mainly because I don’t want to see the animation branch shuttered. Not to be melodramatic, but I think after Strange World flopped, Disney is in need of a hit.
Avenue Q and Book of Mormon were them, sorry, 
. I think my mind mixed them up with how Idina Menzel's character has a similar unleashed-power type of song in her WDAS film as in Wicked. Anyway, I still think one of the big names would've been better fit for a big anniversary film like this. Julia Michaels feels sort of random.Agreed.blackcauldron85 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:40 pm Stephen Schwartz did the music for Wicked.
The trailer for Wish played in front of Elemental today and it looks so good on the big screen!!
Source: https://www.laughingplace.com/w/article ... -a-studio/Q: The story includes a very important tree, one that Asha used to visit with her dad. It’s where she goes to wish on stars.
Jennifer Lee: One thing I love is the drawings of the father and daughter on the tree. Those were all done by Fawn Veerasunthorn, the director.
Q: The premise follows a character who learns that the person in power doesn’t necessarily have the best interests of the people at heart. As an adult, that feels very grounded in our present-day realities. How much real-world influence inspires you as a writer?
Jennifer Lee: Well, I think for all of us, you write what you know; write your world. But I will say one of the things that was really important to us is tracking the choices of the villain and the protagonist. We aren't declarative about one thing or another in the world because that's not what we do. We're about characters. So what I loved was building Magnifico and Asha. We didn't show the one song that was in between the two scenes yet because we're holding off on that. But what you see is they're completely aligned. And so we wanted to say, let's start with two characters. And I've always wanted to have a villain and protagonist at that moment where they're completely aligned and then watching that first crack, and then the second crack, and then each time they have choices to make. So what I really wanted to make sure of is that Magnifico owns everything. He could make different choices, and he chooses his way. And that's what I say to the world. It's like, we can make choices in this world and determine our destinies, and both of them have to face the responsibilities for those choices. And so it sort of expanded from there. But that was the core of it, was lining the two of them up.
What’s Asha’s descent? Was that mentioned?
Not sure about that but she calls her grandfather "Saba" which apparently is Hebrew?
Source: https://www.disneyphile.fr/annecy-2023- ... ne-etoile/Jennifer Lee then introduced Asha's family, consisting of her grandfather Jabino and her mother Jakina. She tells us that Asha's ailing father died before the events of the film began. Asha's best friend Dahlia, a group of seven teenagers (a direct reference to the Seven Dwarfs) and Queen Amaya are also part of the cast.
Following her presentation, Jennifer Lee invited us to take a look at two sequences from the beginning of the film, to discover its aesthetics and its storyline. These two excerpts, totalling some twenty minutes and taking place near the beginning of the film, gave us a better idea of the story that will take place in Wish.
Asha wishes to become the King's assistant, in charge of granting her country's wishes. But while she's being interviewed in the King's office, the young girl encounters two disturbing elements. The first is the presence of a forbidden book in the office, which becomes animated at her touch and must be calmed by the king himself. The second is when she asks the king to grant her grandfather's wish, materialized by a translucent sphere she holds out to the sovereign. As the latter studies the wish, he finally backs down, stating that it seems too vague and therefore too dangerous. He then reveals to the heroine that he doesn't grant all the wishes entrusted to him, only those he deems beneficial to the kingdom (and to himself...?). But the point that really upsets Asha is that the citizens find themselves completely dispossessed of their wishes, since by entrusting them to the king, they instantly forget their content.
While the young girl wishes to reveal her unfulfilled wish to her grandfather, so that he can remember it and try to fulfill it himself, he opposes her, unwilling to go against the king's will. This scene at dinner with her grandfather and mother, in which Asha tries to make her grandfather see reason before leaving the table in a hurry, realizing that her effort was in vain, is reminiscent of a similar scene in Mulan, where the young girl also confronts her father before abruptly leaving the table. We then discover a musical scene in which Asha sings the title song "Make a Wish", before an immense ray of starlight lights up the sky and the famous little star falls to earth to meet the heroine and her goat Valentino. This little star, reminiscent of Morph (Treasure Planet: A New Universe) and Tinkerbell, has incredible powers, such as giving Valentino and... all the flora and fauna a voice, which leads to a new musical scene. At the same time, the King, not unaware of the luminous halo in the sky, tells his wife that he is under threat... The tone is set.
There's nothing wrong with a complex villain, and I'm sure both of their journeys will be interesting, but there's nothing "traditional Disney villain" about him so far, he has more in common with Namaari than Maleficent or Jafar, etc.. I wouldn't be surprised if he's redeemed by the end as well.D82 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:03 pm • They found out through test screenings that people wanted a complex villain, so King Magnifico has an arc of his own and apparently we'll get to know his past, the choices he made and understand his motives a little better.
• Initially enthusiastic, Asha realizes there is something wrong with Magnifico's strategy, which intends to spare the pain of those who dream too big and wish for what he judges to be unattainable.
• Wish marks a return to classic storytelling, because Magnifico is a powerful villain, but the novelty of approach is that we follow his path of descent to the underworld in parallel with the heroic takeover of the protagonist, in fact: for a brief period "good" and "bad" are even aligned! A villain is like any other character, Jennifer explains, and to characterize him properly we need to understand how he thinks. He is not a villain by definition; he becomes a villain in the eyes of the audience as he goes along.
I think that all of it started way before Medieval times and not sure that I like that this whole movie is based on explaining how fairytale were made. The film might be interesting but this whole concept is just bringing it down to me, it's like Lightyear whole thing was the movie that Andy saw as a child... Can you just stop and tell an interesting story without trying to connect it to past films for marketing purposes?!
Saba is indeed the Hebrew word for grandfather, but I think it's just a coincidence cause I don't believe that Ariana DeBose is Jewish.
Well, at least now we have confirmation. So I'm guessing Tiana will look like Far From the Tree.D82 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:03 pm • Embracing the experiments between CGI and 2D pioneered at Disney's home with the shorts Paperman, Feast and Far From the Tree, the details of a veteran studio artist like set designer Lisa Keene (active on Frozen and even earlier in the 1990s Renaissance) can be transferred directly to the screen, without intermediate modeling. The aim is for a painterly rendering of the image, although for now there are no plans to reintroduce 2D tout court in character animation: the studio has started courses to train new traditional freehand animators, however, there are no plans to reboot that kind of production yet.
I thought the same when I read that. Even if he isn't redeemed by the end, it doesn't seem he'll be a truly classic villain.Farerb wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:45 pm There's nothing wrong with a complex villain, and I'm sure both of their journeys will be interesting, but there's nothing "traditional Disney villain" about him so far, he has more in common with Namaari than Maleficent or Jafar, etc.. I wouldn't be surprised if he's redeemed by the end as well.
That's true. Hopefully, the attendee got that part wrong from the presentation.
According to Wikipedia, her father is Puerto Rican, her mother is white, and she also has African American and partial Italian ancestry. Chris Pine is not Spanish or Portuguese either, but it's true that they try to be more accurate with the casting of people of color. Perhaps, that's the word for grandfather in another language as well?
No, Farerb. Tiana will not look like Far From The Tree. They could just be being coy. The people I talked to said they knew people who were working on Tiana were making it hand-drawn. I believe that they’re just being coy with the information and are saying that “for now” to hold off on revealing Tiana will be hand-drawn until a big event of some kind. What event, I’m not sure, but I believe there will be some sort of big showmanship like thing to lean into Tiana being hand-drawn animated in a celebration announcement kinda way soon.
No, Farerb. It will do better than The Little Mermaid if and when the movie gets more marketing, when the movie gets more critical acclaim as it is said to be great, and because of the holiday season legs the movie will have and a 3-4 month theatrical window before it hits Disney+.
! You have a great taste 
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