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HEY GANG!

It's been a long time since I've been here. I thought I'd join in on the Disney+ topic.

My wife and I subscribed last Friday after the heat died down on its launch date. The first movie we watched from it was Dumbo, partially because my wife had never seen it before, and because it had been too long since I've last seen it. Still an awesome classic, NO plans to watch the remake anytime soon.

I also used this as an opportunity to see The Aristocats, as that was one of the few canon features I hadn't seen. Given the time it was produced, it was surprisingly decent. It did have a low-key villain, the Xeroxography was a bit distracting, and it did reuse a lot of animation, but it did have enough story material that was worth watching. I'd rank it below The Rescuers and The Jungle Book, but far above Robin Hood and The Sword and the Stone.

Glad to see you back! I still haven't seen the Dumbo remake and I don't plan to anytime soon, especially since critics weren't all too kind to it. I'm glad your wife finally got a chance to see the original though.

The Aristocats has always been a mediocre and low-key Disney feature for me. Not the best by any means but not the worst either. There are elements I certainly like and while I'm not the biggest fan of the scratchy animation, it at least fits the Impressionist style they were trying to emulate. Other films from that era don't have the same excuse. I too think that out of the films from that era, The Jungle Book and The Rescuers are far superior, whereas for all its faults, The Aristocats is still loads better than Robin Hood and The Sword in the Stone, two of my personal least favorites in the entire canon. I recently rewatched these two films with Disney+ anyway and my disdain for both films was just further cemented, especially for Robin Hood. I don't understand at all what people see in that film.

JeanGreyForever wrote:Glad to see you back! I still haven't seen the Dumbo remake and I don't plan to anytime soon, especially since critics weren't all too kind to it. I'm glad your wife finally got a chance to see the original though.

The Aristocats has always been a mediocre and low-key Disney feature for me. Not the best by any means but not the worst either. There are elements I certainly like and while I'm not the biggest fan of the scratchy animation, it at least fits the Impressionist style they were trying to emulate. Other films from that era don't have the same excuse. I too think that out of the films from that era, The Jungle Book and The Rescuers are far superior, whereas for all its faults, The Aristocats is still loads better than Robin Hood and The Sword in the Stone, two of my personal least favorites in the entire canon. I recently rewatched these two films with Disney+ anyway and my disdain for both films was just further cemented, especially for Robin Hood. I don't understand at all what people see in that film.

I agree... such a messy film and on IMDB it ranks higher than most of its predecessors. Go figure. I wish its production value was at least Jungle Book-level but unfortunately it turned out a recycle mess.

For me, Robin Hood is comfort food. It's a movie I've always watched a lot since I was a kid. It's not in my Top 10, but it's in a category with The Emperor's New Groove, A Goofy Movie, & Winnie the Pooh as films that are like a big hug, for lack of a better word. They just make me happy. I recently watched TENG because I was in the mood to watch a movie that wouldn't make me cry. RH is the same way. I really do enjoy it.

I always thought that movies like "The Sword In the Stone" and "The Emperor's New Groove" are kind of underrated as Disney movies. They don't really get the attention I feel they deserve.

JeanGreyForever wrote:https://help.disneyplus.com/csp
Using this link, you can request films for the service that haven't been added yet. Anastasia and the Aladdin and Tarzan TV shows have been at the top of my list.

Jack Skellington wrote: Also the Black Cauldron in 4K, who would have guessed !

Yeah it really shocked me that two of Disney's "undesirable" films were both given the 4K treatment over the rest of their more popular films.

My guess is that it’s because Disney plans to release both a The Sword on the Stone remake and The Chronicles of Prydain series as Disney+ Originals. They had a 4K version on the Dark Crystal movie on Netflix long before the series came out. But this is just speculation so who knows.

JeanGreyForever wrote:I don't understand at all what people see in that film.

Me neither. The film is not horrible, but it's relentlessly mediocre.

Semaj wrote:HEY GANG!

It's been a long time since I've been here. I thought I'd join in on the Disney+ topic.

My wife and I subscribed last Friday after the heat died down on its launch date. The first movie we watched from it was Dumbo, partially because my wife had never seen it before, and because it had been too long since I've last seen it. Still an awesome classic, NO plans to watch the remake anytime soon.

I also used this as an opportunity to see The Aristocats, as that was one of the few canon features I hadn't seen. Given the time it was produced, it was surprisingly decent. It did have a low-key villain, the Xeroxography was a bit distracting, and it did reuse a lot of animation, but it did have enough story material that was worth watching. I'd rank it below The Rescuers and The Jungle Book, but far above Robin Hood and The Sword and the Stone.

JeanGreyForever wrote:Glad to see you back! I still haven't seen the Dumbo remake and I don't plan to anytime soon, especially since critics weren't all too kind to it. I'm glad your wife finally got a chance to see the original though.

The Aristocats has always been a mediocre and low-key Disney feature for me. Not the best by any means but not the worst either. There are elements I certainly like and while I'm not the biggest fan of the scratchy animation, it at least fits the Impressionist style they were trying to emulate. Other films from that era don't have the same excuse. I too think that out of the films from that era, The Jungle Book and The Rescuers are far superior, whereas for all its faults, The Aristocats is still loads better than Robin Hood and The Sword in the Stone, two of my personal least favorites in the entire canon. I recently rewatched these two films with Disney+ anyway and my disdain for both films was just further cemented, especially for Robin Hood. I don't understand at all what people see in that film.

JeanGreyForever wrote:Glad to see you back! I still haven't seen the Dumbo remake and I don't plan to anytime soon, especially since critics weren't all too kind to it. I'm glad your wife finally got a chance to see the original though.

The Aristocats has always been a mediocre and low-key Disney feature for me. Not the best by any means but not the worst either. There are elements I certainly like and while I'm not the biggest fan of the scratchy animation, it at least fits the Impressionist style they were trying to emulate. Other films from that era don't have the same excuse. I too think that out of the films from that era, The Jungle Book and The Rescuers are far superior, whereas for all its faults, The Aristocats is still loads better than Robin Hood and The Sword in the Stone, two of my personal least favorites in the entire canon. I recently rewatched these two films with Disney+ anyway and my disdain for both films was just further cemented, especially for Robin Hood. I don't understand at all what people see in that film.

JeanGreyForever wrote:Glad to see you back! I still haven't seen the Dumbo remake and I don't plan to anytime soon, especially since critics weren't all too kind to it. I'm glad your wife finally got a chance to see the original though.

The Aristocats has always been a mediocre and low-key Disney feature for me. Not the best by any means but not the worst either. There are elements I certainly like and while I'm not the biggest fan of the scratchy animation, it at least fits the Impressionist style they were trying to emulate. Other films from that era don't have the same excuse. I too think that out of the films from that era, The Jungle Book and The Rescuers are far superior, whereas for all its faults, The Aristocats is still loads better than Robin Hood and The Sword in the Stone, two of my personal least favorites in the entire canon. I recently rewatched these two films with Disney+ anyway and my disdain for both films was just further cemented, especially for Robin Hood. I don't understand at all what people see in that film.

DO NOT EVER let critics dictate whether you should see. They are completely wrong about Dumbo, as it is a very fine, well made film thats actually even better than the original but still does it justice without being an exact copy. Heck, even my friend who is a die hard Disney fan says he and his other friend liked Dumbo the best out of ALL The Live Action remakes related in 2019. He especially liked Michael Keaton's character and said he would've worked REALLY well las a Golden Age Era Disney Villain.

Patricier21 wrote:
DO NOT EVER let critics dictate whether you should see. They are completely wrong about Dumbo, as it is a very fine, well made film thats actually even better than the original but still does it justice without being an exact copy. Heck, even my friend who is a die hard Disney fan says he and his other friend liked Dumbo the best out of ALL The Live Action remakes related in 2019. He especially liked Michael Keaton's character and said he would've worked REALLY well las a Golden Age Era Disney Villain.

+1 for Dumbo and for everything you said. It’s a good film. And I enjoyed it much more than the original.

RyGuy wrote:

Patricier21 wrote:
DO NOT EVER let critics dictate whether you should see. They are completely wrong about Dumbo, as it is a very fine, well made film thats actually even better than the original but still does it justice without being an exact copy. Heck, even my friend who is a die hard Disney fan says he and his other friend liked Dumbo the best out of ALL The Live Action remakes related in 2019. He especially liked Michael Keaton's character and said he would've worked REALLY well las a Golden Age Era Disney Villain.

+1 for Dumbo and for everything you said. It’s a good film. And I enjoyed it much more than the original.

You both have a point there because I quite enjoyed the remake for Aladdin and that was trashed by critics. And views on the film seemed pretty mixed here on the forum since about half the people really liked it if not outright loved it, while others were a lot more critical. A lot of the critiques were things that disinterested me in the film but I should probably give it a try on Disney Plus now.

RyGuy wrote:

Patricier21 wrote:
DO NOT EVER let critics dictate whether you should see. They are completely wrong about Dumbo, as it is a very fine, well made film thats actually even better than the original but still does it justice without being an exact copy. Heck, even my friend who is a die hard Disney fan says he and his other friend liked Dumbo the best out of ALL The Live Action remakes related in 2019. He especially liked Michael Keaton's character and said he would've worked REALLY well las a Golden Age Era Disney Villain.

+1 for Dumbo and for everything you said. It’s a good film. And I enjoyed it much more than the original.

NP Btw r u RyGuy Slytherin by any chance (even if not beware of COPPA): https://www.youtube.com/user/RyGuySlytherin

I got around to watching the first few episodes of The Imagineering Story, and it's a good watch, but also... not as informative as I thought it'd be? Or maybe I just think so because I'm fairly familiar with park history. There's some really nice moments, like seeing Bob Gurr signing his name on the cast member wall inside the Matterhorn, but I guess I was hoping for a little more. And I see that the descriptions for the last couple of episodes go out of their way to celebrate Iger for whatever reason. I don't even hate the guy, but the hero worship really seems unnecessary.

I also was watching a little bit of the Muppets show ABC had a few years ago. I honestly liked it, and I would've liked to have seen it go a little longer. I especially appreciate how the back half started to recognize the show's earlier weak points and worked to improve itself. I really feel that it could have became a better show if it went longer.

^ I've been watching The Muppets, too! I think it's good...(And it's on my to do list to watch The Imagineering Story.)

Are the crows still in Dumbo?

Yes. I knew that was a bogus rumor.

Oh thank God.

Kyle wrote:Yes. I knew that was a bogus rumor.

But one that seemed legitimate at the time.

They only have a disclaimer about dated stereotypes on the menu selection.

The film would not make sense of they censored the crows. (Even if they did, they'd have to remove the roustabouts too).

Semaj wrote:They only have a disclaimer about dated stereotypes on the menu selection.

The film would not make sense of they censored the crows. (Even if they did, they'd have to remove the roustabouts too).

I'd rather have a disclaimer any day. It's like how the more questionable cartoons on the Treasures sets were given similar warnings from Leonard Maltin. He similarly explained the cartoons were a product of their time and it would be foolish to judge them by today's standards.

Big Disney Fan wrote:

Semaj wrote:They only have a disclaimer about dated stereotypes on the menu selection.

The film would not make sense of they censored the crows. (Even if they did, they'd have to remove the roustabouts too).

I'd rather have a disclaimer any day. It's like how the more questionable cartoons on the Treasures sets were given similar warnings from Leonard Maltin. He similarly explained the cartoons were a product of their time and it would be foolish to judge them by today's standards.

Tell that to James L. Brooks and Al Jean, who were responsible for removing the classic Simpsons episode Stark Raving Dad from circulation.