Re: Frozen: Part V
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:50 pm
So far I really like the lyrics to Reindeers Are Better Than People and Love is an Open Door.
What an annoying review. It's like she hasn't watched any Disney movies since Little Mermaid. Not all females are @$$kickers who never need saving. Also, I am so glad the filmmakers aren't idiots who shoehorned in token "POC" for no reason other than political correctness. I would have actually found that pretty insulting. Also, isn't the term POC racist? It's like white people are the "norm" and the rest of the world with all it's diversity gets lumped into "POC". Stupid stupid.SWillie! wrote:My god, how I dream of a day when movies are not reviewed based on how feminist-friendly they are and how many "PoCs" there are.qindarka wrote:Advance Perspective: Disney’s Frozen Defies Expectations - See more at: http://www.depthoffieldmagazine.com/201 ... CB6yz.dpuf
http://www.depthoffieldmagazine.com/201 ... ectations/
First opinion that really goes into detail. SPOILERS at the link though, I believe it is marked at the half way point, so the first half is safe to read.
Yes. Yes it is. I wrote as much in my reply which you can read here: http://ucspongequiggle.tumblr.com/post/ ... last-nightdollover wrote:What an annoying review. It's like she hasn't watched any Disney movies since Little Mermaid. Not all females are @$$kickers who never need saving. Also, I am so glad the filmmakers aren't idiots who shoehorned in token "POC" for no reason other than political correctness. I would have actually found that pretty insulting. Also, isn't the term POC racist? It's like white people are the "norm" and the rest of the world with all it's diversity gets lumped into "POC". Stupid stupid.SWillie! wrote: My god, how I dream of a day when movies are not reviewed based on how feminist-friendly they are and how many "PoCs" there are.
Yeah that review sucked. Basically she only like this movie because it was "feminist pandering" rather than the fact it's an actually good movie with well written story and characters. I hate super liberals.dollover wrote:What an annoying review. It's like she hasn't watched any Disney movies since Little Mermaid. Not all females are @$$kickers who never need saving. Also, I am so glad the filmmakers aren't idiots who shoehorned in token "POC" for no reason other than political correctness. I would have actually found that pretty insulting. Also, isn't the term POC racist? It's like white people are the "norm" and the rest of the world with all it's diversity gets lumped into "POC". Stupid stupid.SWillie! wrote: My god, how I dream of a day when movies are not reviewed based on how feminist-friendly they are and how many "PoCs" there are.
I agree with you. A good example I like to cite for why changing the source material to make it work as an animated family picture is necessary is Don Bluth's Thumbelina. It's very faithful to the original story and as a result, I found it to be incredibly creepy (it is, after all, about a bunch of middle-aged animals trying to marry a teenage girl). Doing changes from the original tale would have greatly improved that movie, in my opinion.jazzflower92 wrote:http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_snow_queen_2012/
I know this is off topic a bit but it seems that faithful Russian CGI adaption of the Snow Queen has been so far given a rotten rating on Rotten Tomatoes. To make it on topic some of the criticism directed towards the movie really seems to show how a faithful adaption doesn't always mean it will be a good movie. Adapting the Snow Queen to the big screen often means you need to know what to do with the material given in the original and see what works or what does not. One common thing a lot of adaptions of the Snow Queen does is make her into a full fledged villain. I think the only adaption in my opinion that is really good in putting some personality with the Snow Queen as the villain is the Happily Ever After on HBO where the late Eartha Kitt voiced the character. Often times I feel in these movies the Snow Queen really is kind of dry as a character.
I believe whenever Disney adapts a movie it often tries to do something really different from everybody else. I mean take Beauty and the Beast for example look how different it is from the original tale and other adaptions. Its a version of its own that none can capture at all. The purists might say they are butcher the originals but I think each adaption of any story or fairy tale they keep the spirit of what was in the work. When I see Frozen's details it might not look at first it could be the Snow Queen but when one looks closer there is spiritual similarities that carry on the essence of the tale.
'FIXER-UPPER' Lyrics (Transcribed) from DISNEY’S FROZEN as performed by Bulda (Maia Wilson) and the Trolls. Music and lyrics by Robert Lopez and Kristen Anderson-Lopez
WARNING: SPOILERS
Bulda: What’s the issue, dear? Why are you holding back from such a man?
Trolls:
Is it the clumpy way he walks or the grumpy way he talks?
Or the pear-shaped, square-shaped weirdness of his feet?
And though we know he washes well-he always ends up sort of smelly
But you’ll never meet a fellow who’s as sensitive and sweet!
So he’s a bit of a fixer-upper, so he’s got a few flaws
Like his peculiar brain-dear, his thing with the reindeer
That’s a little outside of nature’s laws!
So he’s a bit of a fixer-upper, but this we’re certain of
You can fix this fixer-upper up with a little bit of love!
Kristoff: Can we please just stop talking about this? We’ve got a real, actual problem here
Bulda: I’ll say! So tell me, dear —
Trolls:
Is it the way that he runs scared, or that he’s socially impaired
Or that he only likes to tinkle in the woods — what?!
Are you holding back your fondness due to his unmanly blondness
Or the way he covers up that he’s the honest goods
He’s just a bit of a fixer-upper, he’s got a couple of bugs
His isolation is confirmation of his desperation for human hugs
So he’s a bit of a fixer-upper, but we know what to do
The way to fix up this fixer-upper is to fix him up with you!
Kristoff: ENOUGH! She is engaged to someone else, okay?!
(beat)
Trolls:
So she’s a bit of a fixer-upper, that’s a minor thing
Her cloak (?) engagement is a flex (?) arrangement
And by the way I don’t see no ring!
So she’s a bit of a fixer-upper, her brain’s a bit betwixt
Get the fiance out of the way and the whole thing will be fixed
We’re not saying you can change her, ‘cuz people don’t really change
We’re only saying that love — of course — is powerful and strange
People make bad choices if they’re mad, or scared, or stressed
Throw a little love their way (throw a little love their way) and you’ll bring out their best
True love brings out their best!
Everyone’s a bit of a fixer-upper, that’s what it’s all about!
Father! Sister! Brother! We need each other to raise us up and round us out
Everyone’s a bit of a fixer-upper, but when push comes to shove
Olaf:
The only fixer-upper fixer that can fix up a fixer-upper is —
Trolls:
True, true, true, true, true, true, love
True love, love, love, love, love, true love
True —
Troll: Do you, Anna, take Kristoff to be your troll-fully wedded —
Anna: Wait, what!?
Troll: You’re getting married!
Trolls:
Love!
andIt’ll be totally strange
andBut I’m somewhere in the zone
Is it just me?Which is totally bizarre
Anna: Elsa? (knocks on door)
Anna (Toddler):
Do you wanna build a snowman? C’mon let’s go and play!
I never see you anymore, come out the door, it’s like you’ve gone away
We used to be best buddies and now we’re not, I wish you would tell me why
Do you wanna build a snowman? It doesn’t have to be a snowman (Elsa: Go away, Anna!) Okay, bye
Anna (Teen):
Do you wanna build a snowman? Or ride our bikes around the halls?
I think some company is overdue, I started talking to, the pictures on the walls — Hang in there, Jones!
It gets a little lonely, all these empty rooms, just watching the hours tick by
Anna: (knocks) Elsa?
Anna:
Please I know you’re in there, people are asking where you’ve been
They say ‘have courage,’ and I’m trying to, I’m right out for you, just let me in
We only have each other, it’s just you and me, what are we gonna do?
Do you wanna build a snowman? (sniff)
Kristoff: Really? I’m guessing you don’t have much experience with heat.
Olaf: Nope!
Olaf:
But sometimes I like to close my eyes, and imagine what it’d be like when summer does come
Bees a-buzzin’, kissable dandelion fuzz
And I’ll be doin’ whatever snow does in summerrrrrr
A drink in my hand, my snow up against the burning sand
Probably getting gorgeously tanned in summerrrrr
I’ll finally see a summer breeze, blow away a winter storm
And find out what happens to solid water when it gets warm!
And I can’t wait to see, what my buddies all think of me
Just imagine how much cooler I’ll be in summerrrrrr
Da da, da doo, a bubba bubba boo
The hot and the cold are both so intense
Put them together — it just makes sense!
Rata ta ta dada dada da doo
Winter’s a good time to stay in and cuddle
But put me in summer and I’ll be a — happy snowman!
When life gets rough, I like to hold on to my dream
Relaxing in the summer sun, just lettin’ off steam
Oh the sky would be blue, and you guys’ll be there too
When I finally do when frozen things do in summerrrrrrr
Kristoff: I’m gonna’ tell him —
Anna: Don’t you dare!
Olaf:
In summerrrrrrrrr!