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Dude, I'm upset that "Brave" won too, but take a chill pill. In the long run, it's quality that resonates with people/critics/anyone. And "Wreck-It Ralph" will be regarded as the better film. Who remembers "How Green Was My Valley," no one because "Citzen Kane" was the better film. "Fantasia" didn't fair to well when it came out and "Toy Story" didn't win any Oscars either, but both are remembered as truely great films. "Toy Story" is remembered more fondly than "Pocahontas." "The Iron Giant" is gaining a huge follow and many people didn't even see it on its initial release. So long story short, I'm bummed that "Brave" won, but at the end of the day WiR and "Paranorman" and even RotG are going to be regarded as better movies.

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Avaitor wrote:

DisneyJedi wrote: And by the way, at least I don't openly say that I wish certain characters would get killed in their films just to cheese off anyone who likes those characters.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you previously wish death on John Lasseter and/or Randy Newman?

Only out of anger. Besides, I couldn't really bring myself to kill a soul anyway. But that's not what's important right now.

No need to fight about this. Hollywood gives itself awards, good for them. Like what you like, what they say really doesn't matter, ultimately. It's up to you which films you like...like all of them if you wish. The love of film in general is more important than an Awards show. Not to say that the films that won are bad or anything but it's just entertainment and like anything else, is subjective.

It seems a John Campea from AMC Movie Talk on Youtube also has a beef with Brave winning

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If this were true, Wreck-It Ralph would of won the oscar last night!

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DisneyEra wrote:If this were true, Wreck-It Ralph would of won the oscar last night!

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My response (in the form of the following video) is more directed at the obvious mistake that newspaper made by saying Wreck-It Ralph was a Pixar movie.

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DisneyEra wrote:If this were true, Wreck-It Ralph would of won the oscar last night!

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That is seriously so irritating. The fact that the article was written and published with no simple fact checking just makes them look dumb.

SWillie! wrote:

DisneyEra wrote:If this were true, Wreck-It Ralph would of won the oscar last night!

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That is seriously so irritating. The fact that the article was written and published with no simple fact checking just makes them look dumb.

Not to mention the fact that The Seattle Times was a 2012 "Pulitzer Prize" winner!

DisneyJedi wrote:I am NOT a troll. I am just mad that the Oscar went to the least deserving nominee and some people are too oblivious to that.

It wasn't your opinion that made me think you're a troll. It was more related to this:

DisneyJedi wrote:I'm still mad that my mom agrees with the "deserved" win. Yeah, it would probably be different if she actually PAID ATTENTION TO WRECK-IT RALPH INSTEAD OF PAYING ATTENTION TO HER STUPID PHONE FOR MOST OF THE MOVIE BECAUSE HER WORK IS TOO "IMPORTANT TO LEAVE AT THE DOOR!!!!

DisneyJedi, seriously, calm down. Do something that soothes your nerves. I don't know ... make yourself a chocolate milkshake, then sit in front of the TV and watch Tangled.

Maybe you could get some soft toys and cuddle up with them during the film.
Forum member Loomis once advised me to do just that and to have a tea party with the stuffed animals.

OK that last bit was a joke.

EDIT: You could also just grab your lightsaber and go massacre the Academy members. See what works best for you.

Dr Frankenollie wrote:
It wasn't your opinion that made me think you're a troll. It was more related to this:

DisneyJedi wrote:I'm still mad that my mom agrees with the "deserved" win. Yeah, it would probably be different if she actually PAID ATTENTION TO WRECK-IT RALPH INSTEAD OF PAYING ATTENTION TO HER STUPID PHONE FOR MOST OF THE MOVIE BECAUSE HER WORK IS TOO "IMPORTANT TO LEAVE AT THE DOOR!!!!

In all honesty, it's actually true. She spent almost more than half of the movie looking at her phone for new texts because my dad and brother can't work a catering event without us without asking for advice/help in the form of texts. The theaters say "PHONE USE/TEXTING ISN'T ALLOWED DURING THE MOVIE" for a reason. It's distracting!

DisneyJedi wrote:Because I'm sick of Pixar always taking home the gold every time they get nominated. And personally, I only think their movie won this year because they cheated!

Out of the 52 Disney Animated films, only 10 have ever recieved an Oscar! Here they are:

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937) didn't actually win an Oscar. It was nominated for Best Score, but Walt Disney received a Specail Award which "recognized [Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs] as a significant screen innovation which has charmed millions and pioneered a great new entertainment field" He was presented with one statuette and seven miniature statuettes.

Pinocchio (1940) Best Score and Best Song ("When You Wish Upon a Star")

Fantasia (1940) did not actually win any Oscars, it wasn't even nominated, but its creators did receive some special awards: "For their outstanding contribution to the advancement of the use of sound in motion pictures through the production of Fantasia" and "for their unique achievement in the creation of a new form of visualized music in Walt Disney's production Fantasia, thereby widening the scope of the motion picture as entertainment and as an art form."

Dumbo (1941) - Best Score

The Little Mermaid (1989) - Best Score and Best Song ("Under the Sea")

Beauty and the Beast (1991) - Best Score and Best Song ("Beauty and the Beast")

Aladdin (1992) - Best Score and Best Song ("A Whole New World")

The Lion King (1994) - Best Score and Best Song ("Can You Feel the Love Tonight")

Pocahontas (1995) - Best Score and Best Song ("Colors of the Wind")

Tarzan (1999) - Best Song ("You'll Be In My Heart")


So it's actually kinda rare when a Disney animated film wins an Oscar. 4 during Walt's era & 6 during the Renaissance era. It's been 13 years since a Disney animated film won an Oscar, but thats nothing compared to the 48 year drought from Dumbo to The Little Mermaid. Can Frozen be the 1st in the CGI era? Doubtful, but lets wait & see.

Although if you want to get technical, Disney is the studio to have won the most Oscars in the animated short category. They pretty much won that award every year in the 1930's.

estefan wrote:Although if you want to get technical, Disney is the studio to have won the most Oscars in the animated short category. They pretty much won that award every year in the 1930's.

But it's been decades since Disney won in the Animated Short caregory too. Before Paperman won last sunday, Disney's previous win was "It's Tough to be a Bird" in 1969, 43 years ago! Seeing "Runaway Brain" & "The Little Match Girl" lose over the last 2 dacades was disappointing. The were gonna have to come up with something new if they were gonna win an oscar. Thats what Paperman did.

While I agree The Little Matchgirl deserved to win, as much as I love Runaway Brain, I love A Close Shave even more. Since their win in '69, I think Disney deserved to win for Mickey's Christmas Carol, Little Matchgirl and Paperman. Though I can't comment on Lorenzo as Disney refuses to release it.

estefan wrote:Since their win in '69, I think Disney deserved to win for Mickey's Christmas Carol, Little Matchgirl and Paperman.

You're forgetting Destino. I would also include John Henry and One by One which weren't even nominated.

Sotiris wrote:

estefan wrote:Since their win in '69, I think Disney deserved to win for Mickey's Christmas Carol, Little Matchgirl and Paperman.

You're forgetting Destino. I would also include John Henry and One by One which weren't even nominated.

Did you enjoy Destino that much? It's definitely interesting, but I thought it was pretty boring as far as entertainment value. Never been a Dali fan, though.

SWillie! wrote:Did you enjoy Destino that much?

Yes, I did. I think it's a masterpiece. One of Disney's best shorts to date.

SWillie! wrote:It's definitely interesting, but I thought it was pretty boring as far as entertainment value. Never been a Dali fan, though.

No, I don't find it boring at all. It's Paperman which I find a bit boring and trite.

Destino's visuals are stunning; it successfully fuses CG and hand-drawn animation, and the music is hauntingly beautiful. It's a like a surrealist painting coming to life. There's no denying that it's an incredible achievement in animation that is culturally, historically and artistically significant.

Sotiris wrote:Destino's visuals are stunning; it successfully fuses CG and hand-drawn animation, and the music is hauntingly beautiful. It's a like a surrealist painting coming to life. There's no denying that it's an incredible achievement in animation that is culturally, historically and artistically significant.

You're right, it's definitely significant. Personally though, I think the CG is kind of cheap looking, I'm not a fan of the music at all, and I hate hate hate hate the blending keyframes technique they used instead of inbetweening the animation. Just not appealing to me. But again, I really don't like Dali's work, either. I can appreciate it, but just don't find it appealing at all.