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SpringHeelJack wrote:All CAPS films were animated for a 1.66:1 aspect ratio. Sometimes they are framed otherwise (i.e., "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" on DVD).

All CAPS movies were framed for 1.85:1, movie theaters often cannot show a picture that's smaller than that. They were just animated in 1.66:1 so they wouldn't lose too much picture when they were released on video. The intended aspect ratio is still 1.85:1.

Disney Duster wrote:Does anyone realize that Belle and the Beast are slightly smaller/farther away in the 3D release promotional still? As in...you can see more of the background, like the column next to the Beast's back.

The dvd seems cropped, yeah. It seems zoomed in too much. I still hope we'll just get the 1.85:1 ratio for the new edition.

KubrickFan wrote:

SpringHeelJack wrote:All CAPS films were animated for a 1.66:1 aspect ratio. Sometimes they are framed otherwise (i.e., "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" on DVD).

All CAPS movies were framed for 1.85:1, movie theaters often cannot show a picture that's smaller than that. They were just animated in 1.66:1 so they wouldn't lose too much picture when they were released on video. The intended aspect ratio is still 1.85:1.

Disney Duster wrote:Does anyone realize that Belle and the Beast are slightly smaller/farther away in the 3D release promotional still? As in...you can see more of the background, like the column next to the Beast's back.

The dvd seems cropped, yeah. It seems zoomed in too much. I still hope we'll just get the 1.85:1 ratio for the new edition.

I think s/he meant was that the characters were made smaller within the same backdrop, not the whole image being zoomed up.

If the BD image is anything like that promotional still, I wouldn't mind buying two copies!

Yes that's what he, I, meant, thank you.

I just wanted to say about changing color settings:

Changing color settings can't fix the problem of seeing the original.

Remember those experiments where people played with the colors of the film to look either dark like the Laserdisc or bright like the DVD? And it worked for some scenes but not others? No experiments perfectly matched the VHS, the Laserdisc, or the DVD?

Some scenes, and some colors, are meant to be dark, others are meant to be bright. It takes a human touch to decide what colors should like. Just making everything darker is not the same as artistically deciding what every part of the film should look like, done by the original artists. Each part is meant to look a certain way.

But even despite that, shades of colors changed from like brown to red and yellow to orange and so there's more to it than that as well.

Disney Duster wrote:Yes that's what he, I, meant, thank you.

Well, that's not true. They're on the exact same place on both screenshots.

Here's jpanimation's original caps:

2002 DVD:



Promotional Still:


Here's what happens if you resize the 2002 DVD cap so the portion shown is the same as/proportional to the Promotional Still (approximately. I got Beast & Belle to match perfectly, but the background wouldn't)







The 2002 DVD cap is approx. 1.82:1
The Promotional Still is approx. 1.69:1

albert

Meh, the 2002 DVD still looks a little blurry while the promotional still looks much sharper.

It's a downsized image of a cap, and whenever you shrink an image, it loses sharpness and clarity. It's not necessarily indicative of the actual DVD's sharpness.

albert

Everyone color it yourself!

Soupy, that image is clearly too bright. It looks like a Saturday Morning cartoon coloring book. The real "Beauty and the Beast" should have a coloring book page like this:

ROFL!
That's hilarious SpringHeelJack!

SpringHeelJack wrote:Soupy, that image is clearly too bright. It looks like a Saturday Morning cartoon coloring book. The real "Beauty and the Beast" should have a coloring book page like this:

it's lovely but it's still flat as a saturday morning cartoon, it need some scribbles to give it dimension.

CampbellzSoup wrote:Everyone color it yourself!

Well, if you insist . . .



Something tells me I didn't make it dark enough though.

Enigmawing, that is truly gorgeous, coming from another artist myself who loves coloring! And the right colors, too (well, instead of like the completely yellow gown Belle has in clipart and such) But please color in the background! The red in the turrets, the green in the plant, all the correct colors in darkness!

KubrickFan wrote:Well, that's not true. They're on the exact same place on both screenshots.

No, I was right. Look carefully!

Disney Duster wrote:Enigmawing, that is truly gorgeous, coming from another artist myself who loves coloring! And the right colors, too (well, instead of like the completely yellow gown Belle has in clipart and such) But please color in the background! The red in the turrets, the green in the plant, all the correct colors in darkness!

Thanks! I'm afraid I got really lazy with the background as I usually do. This was just a quickie to see if I could get something decent out of a pixelated little coloring pic.

Disney Duster wrote:

KubrickFan wrote:Well, that's not true. They're on the exact same place on both screenshots.

No, I was right. Look carefully!

That's only because Beast's outline is thicker in the dvd version. If you check the rest, it does match.
About the background not matching, maybe one shot was taken a frame or so later than the other? I'm not trying to find excuses, but it could be other things than the scene being reanimated.

Purrists, eat your heart out.

Kyle wrote:Purrists, eat your heart out.

Will someone agree with me on this.....

At least the restoration colors on the bluray (or hopefully any release) won't look like that

although what is that suppose to be the kinda art...abstract??

Kyle wrote:

She wore an itsy-bitsy, teeny-weeny, yellow polka dot <strike>bikini</strike> dress...

Enigmawing:

disneyboy20022 wrote:Will someone agree with me on this.....

At least the restoration colors on the bluray (or hopefully any release) won't look like that

although what is that suppose to be the kinda art...abstract??

Whacha talkin about, I restored it to its original brilliance. I swear you guys have no understanding of how colors age with time.

Exactly!!! This is what the Blu-Ray will look like, because this is what the filmmakers always wanted.

Who cares that the dumb audiences are used to a yellow dress?

It's only the filmmakers film.