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I wonder if the Platinum re-release will still have the old Walt Disney Pictures logo instead of the new one. "Mary Poppins" still uses the same classic logo for most releases instead of the newer one.

mooky_7_sa wrote:What was the reason for cutting it out of the movie anyway? Budget limitations?

No, as I've read it in Michael Barrier's book Hollywood Cartoons: American Animation in its Golden Age, it was cut by Walt because he felt it didn't add anything to the film. After all, he already had enough segments with just the Dwarfs interacting. He later regretted developing the scene that far, because that meant he had to rush the scenes with Snow White and the Prince, to make it to the release date. (That's why they relied soley on rotoscoping for those scenes.)

Oh, that explains it.

Still, I'd like it to be included. I mean, it's almost finished, it was supposed to be in the movie once, and it doesn't clash with the story, in fact, it explains one of the goofs (Dopey and the soap). What's the harm in that? But it should be made optional (like "Human Again" or "If I Never Knew You", you could watch the movie with it or without it).

I toataly disagree. It was fine that Human Again and If I Never Knew You because the films creative team was still alive and they supervised the songs being put back into the film. Walt cut this scene for a reason and it sould stay out of the film.

In the case of If I Never Knew You it was always meant to be there but cut after preview audiences showed kids didn't like it. I'm fine with it's inclusion as it presents something the director's themselves wanted (and IMO helps the film). For Snow White the decision to cut them was something done during production and adding them ads no value to the film other than giving it something new for the sake of begin new.

Flanger-Hanger wrote:In the case of If I Never Knew You it was always meant to be there but cut after preview audiences showed kids didn't like it. I'm fine with it's inclusion as it presents something the director's themselves wanted (and IMO helps the film). For Snow White the decision to cut them was something done during production and adding them ads no value to the film other than giving it something new for the sake of begin new.

Besides, technology has advanced far too much for the scene to fit comfortably back into the film. It's not like disney could just go beck to Ink and Paint Girls and 70 yr old film cameras.

ajmrowland wrote: Besides, technology has advanced far too much for the scene to fit comfortably back into the film. It's not like disney could just go beck to Ink and Paint Girls and 70 yr old film cameras.

If only! I'm sure they have the finances and resources to do so

Beast_enchantment wrote:

ajmrowland wrote: Besides, technology has advanced far too much for the scene to fit comfortably back into the film. It's not like disney could just go beck to Ink and Paint Girls and 70 yr old film cameras.

If only! I'm sure they have the finances and resources to do so

Well, I'm certain that the former would mean hiring new people only for a single scene, Unless the current painters are like Pixar and jump at the chance to do things the old fashioned way.

I wonder what they are going to do with the restoration.
Will they go back to the original negatives again like what they did with Sleeping Beauty?
Because I heard people say that the 2001 restoration wasn't right because they didn't have the right technology back then.

I wonder how different the film will look compared to the 2001 version (which I didn't like that much, Snowwhite and the queen look like clowns in many scenes, and it looks so bright and modern that it feels like it was made yesterday. They could completely animate the Soup song and put it in and no one would see the difference in style. And that is just wrong).

Sleeping Beauty's 2008 version looks much more authentic and "50's" like than the 2003 version. I hope this will be the case with Snowwhite too.

Are you kidding me Sleeping Beauty I felt looked like it was produced yesterday with the Blu Ray version. The only thing that made it feel like the 50's was the awesome music/dialog.

I have a feeling they are going to go with the original, but if you thought hte 2001 restoration was too clean I don't think you'll like this one that's coming up.

Snow White was never one of my favorites...I'm sad that they are re-releasing this instead of Fantasia...finish up the line first.

Slightly off topic but I realized something after watching the Pinocchio Platinum Teaser on the Mary Poppins DVD.

Last year, we got the film that was too ambitious and nearly bankrupted Disney (Sleeping Beauty) and the film that was less ambitious but was highly successful and created a new animation style (101 Dalmatians) on DVD.

This year, we will be getting Disney's first AND second animated film as Platinum releases, and both on Blu-Ray.

Nice coincidence, huh?

SB's colors looked pristine, but the image generally maintained 50's feel with the animation and techniques. While a little more age is affordable on such an old title, the release is gorgeous enough to extinguish itself from newer films(CGi not included)

pap64 wrote:Slightly off topic but I realized something after watching the Pinocchio Platinum Teaser on the Mary Poppins DVD.

Last year, we got the film that was too ambitious and nearly bankrupted Disney (Sleeping Beauty) and the film that was less ambitious but was highly successful and created a new animation style (101 Dalmatians) on DVD.

This year, we will be getting Disney's first AND second animated film as Platinum releases, and both on Blu-Ray.

Nice coincidence, huh?

How is that a coincidence ?

1. Expensive film that nearly bankrupted the company
2. Less expensive film that started a new animation style

vs.

1. First animated classic
2. Second animated classic

There really isn't anything coincidental about that.

CampbellzSoup wrote:Are you kidding me Sleeping Beauty I felt looked like it was produced yesterday with the Blu Ray version. The only thing that made it feel like the 50's was the awesome music/dialog.

I have a feeling they are going to go with the original, but if you thought hte 2001 restoration was too clean I don't think you'll like this one that's coming up.

Snow White was never one of my favorites...I'm sad that they are re-releasing this instead of Fantasia...finish up the line first.

I know what you mean, all the releases now look way too crisp and clean and modern, but there's nothing we can do about that unfortunately.

But in terms of color etc, the 2008 Sleeping Beauty has a more authentic feel than the 2003 version. Skintones are more pale, haircolors of the prince and Aurora, etc.

Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs is a divisive movie you either love it or hate it , I was born in 1955 , and look back upon Snow White with great pleasure nostalgia!!

A lot of forum readers and posters seem to hate Snow White's operatic voice , however Walt Disney said he wanted Snow White to be a Janet Gaynor juvenile type of girl - do yourself a favour , go onto You Tube , and look up Janet Gaynor in Sunnyside If I had a Talking Picture Of You etc , sh was a little like Adriana Caselotti in singing style a high childlike voice!

I have always liked the great Disney Witches/Stepmother figures - the Wicked Queen , Lady Tremaine , Maleficent , Cruella De Vil ,
Mad Madam Mim , Madame Medusa , Ursula et al! - however I think out of all the classic Disney animated features' classic baddies , that it is the
Wicked Queen/Witch/Peddler Woman is my real favourite Villainess !!!

Marky_198 wrote:I wonder what they are going to do with the restoration.
Will they go back to the original negatives again like what they did with Sleeping Beauty?
Because I heard people say that the 2001 restoration wasn't right because they didn't have the right technology back then.

I wonder how different the film will look compared to the 2001 version (which I didn't like that much, Snowwhite and the queen look like clowns in many scenes, and it looks so bright and modern that it feels like it was made yesterday. They could completely animate the Soup song and put it in and no one would see the difference in style. And that is just wrong).

Sleeping Beauty's 2008 version looks much more authentic and "50's" like than the 2003 version. I hope this will be the case with Snowwhite too.

Technology always advances. They now have the ability to scan the film in 4K, which I don't think they could back then. Thus the film will look better, and in a much higher quality. They probably don't even have a hD master ready, so the restoration has to be done again.
Oh, and by the way, Disney restores their classics to make them look like they were made yesterday. They want them to seem contemporary.

Flanger-Hanger wrote:In the case of If I Never Knew You it was always meant to be there but cut after preview audiences showed kids didn't like it. I'm fine with it's inclusion as it presents something the director's themselves wanted (and IMO helps the film). For Snow White the decision to cut them was something done during production and adding them ads no value to the film other than giving it something new for the sake of begin new.

Just remember having more isnt always better. In the case of Snow White, it would be awful if parts of the film that were never completed for the film were added to the movie! Walt did right by eliminating the sequencese that ended up being cut as it would have added nothing to the picture. Eliminated sequences arent usually a bad thing.

For example I enjoy Pinocchio but after watching it recently (anticipating an outcry) I have to say that it would have been a better movie if the length of some scenes were cut. Some parts just drag on and it slows the pace of the story too much. Other scenes I dont feel contribute anything to the movie. Pinocchio has an amazing core, and is a good movie but it is flawed and would have benefited from being tightened up a bit.

As fun as it is to see what "could have been" or "almost was".......those things are better left seperate on the bonus features and out of the final picture itself.

a-net-fan wrote:Just remember having more isnt always better. In the case of Snow White, it would be awful if parts of the film that were never completed for the film were added to the movie! Walt did right by eliminating the sequencese that ended up being cut as it would have added nothing to the picture. Eliminated sequences arent usually a bad thing.

For example I enjoy Pinocchio but after watching it recently (anticipating an outcry) I have to say that it would have been a better movie if the length of some scenes were cut. Some parts just drag on and it slows the pace of the story too much. Other scenes I dont feel contribute anything to the movie. Pinocchio has an amazing core, and is a good movie but it is flawed and would have benefited from being tightened up a bit.

As fun as it is to see what "could have been" or "almost was".......those things are better left seperate on the bonus features and out of the final picture itself.

I'm not advocating adding or changing stuff to Snow White. I'm just saying Pocahontas is fine because they probably would have kept it in had the toddlers shown a little patience. Even though it's on the newer DVD they still give you the option to view the film without it.

Deco King wrote:A lot of forum readers and posters seem to hate Snow White's operatic voice

I didn't grew up with it, but I love her voice! (Just felt the urge to add this meaningless response.)

KubrickFan wrote:


Oh, and by the way, Disney restores their classics to make them look like they were made yesterday. They want them to seem contemporary.

And yet, it hardly appears to hurt the experience for me. It's just the colors look a bit too perfect. That's the only thing I find wrong.