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ajmrowland wrote:just like being autistic isn't just something you do for an hour a day.

WHEEEEW! That made me majorly laugh. I just pictured everyone in like an office building randomly doing it for an hour every day, then going back to being normal for the rest of the day as if nothing happened, hahahaha.

Thanks! I just thought of that because of my Aspergers.

xxhplinkxx wrote:

ajmrowland wrote:just like being autistic isn't just something you do for an hour a day.

WHEEEEW! That made me majorly laugh. I just pictured everyone in like an office building randomly doing it for an hour every day, then going back to being normal for the rest of the day as if nothing happened, hahahaha.

that would be so funny.

ajmrowland wrote:The problem with the Bible is that it contradicts itself way too much.

A lot of man-made ideas usually do.

An idea isn't just had and stays solid. It always changes and is always re-interpreted or taken out of context. It rarely means the same thing it did when it was formed. Because the Authors can't always stay around to explain it.

^ Indeed, you could say that if the authors who God inspired to write the Bible only explained, then we would realize the words of God that man wrote down weren't contradictory at all, or that something else we thought, once they explain, we realize we were wrong. Perhaps even the words or ideas of God could be re-interpretated, changed or seen differently by man.

ajmrowland, it is possible because God is above everything else, he can have a feeling we would call jealousy that we shouldn't ever have.

But anyway, who said you can't be wise and good and still jealous?

But finally, people have apparently altered the Bible over time, after the original authors, and so, we don't know if everything in the Bible is all the original God's word, but we must believe his important word is in there for us to know and get. Like how Jesus said the most important rule was "love thy neighbor as thyself" that's still in there intact.

Disney Duster wrote:^ Indeed, you could say that if the authors who God inspired to write the Bible only explained

You're making a very big leap there, DD. You can't prove God inspired anyone to write anything. As a matter of fact, there is a lot more that shows us the people / the person who wrote the Bible made it up. Like I said- the "Honor Thy Father" mentality. If the fear of God is so close to the fear people had of their fathers' wrath - why should we believe they saw or knew God. That "he" spoke to them? Or that God exists and isn't just a ghost fiction version of a Father?

I think you can't believe that person / these people made it all up. But, that's up to you to find a way to wrap your mind around. Let's not assume anything so ludicrous as God inspired people to write books that led to the vicious murders of millions of people in taking land from native people, slavery, bigotry, war, and other things. Just as it's Man's justification to take the words of the God they assume is real and use them to kill, it makes more sense to believe people made up God so that others would believe it proves there is a reason for all human misfortune and suffering. That being good will take us to Heaven and that that's our reward.

Why are people so intent on believing the Bible is based on real teachings? Do people have really short memories? Did you forget about all the witch burnings? People used to believe that Satan gave human beings the power to cast spells which led to sickness, death, and dying harvests of crops. Yet, the belief in God speaking to people (which you'll notice "he" doesn't do anymore - go ahead, ask "him"!) to get them to write a book doesn't strike people as insane. That belief is no crazier than the Scientologist theories on what's responsible for all the bad in the world. And Scientologists are full of crap!

Why don't we start making all the right connections here. Beliefs of convenience are not very good ones.

For all we know, the Gospels could've just had a bad goblet of wine before bed one night, and dreamed half the stuff in the bible.

ajmrowland wrote:For all we know, the Gospels could've just had a bad goblet of wine before bed one night, and dreamed half the stuff in the bible.

"Gospel" was not the last name of Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John.

If we were including New Testament apocrypha, "Gospel" is not the last name of Mary, Thomas, Judas, or Phillip either..

albert

Escapay wrote:

ajmrowland wrote:For all we know, the Gospels could've just had a bad goblet of wine before bed one night, and dreamed half the stuff in the bible.

"Gospel" was not the last name of Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John.

I meant the prophets.

But those four weren't prophets either.

The four Gospel writers were basically keeping written record of the stories. The only prophet, I think, who actually "wrote" for the Bible - in the sense that it's believed the words in the letters/epistles were by him - was the apostle Paul. After all, Moses didn't write Exodus, and Elijah didn't write Kings.

albert

Escapay wrote:After all, Moses didn't write Exodus.

He should have, the lazy hermit. He had forty years to write that all down, and what does he do? Delegates it to some Israelite while he stuffs his face with quail and rock water. What a jag-off.

Brends wrote:

Escapay wrote:After all, Moses didn't write Exodus.

He should have, the lazy hermit. He had forty years to write that all down, and what does he do? Delegates it to some Israelite while he stuffs his face with quail and rock water. What a jag-off.

Well someone had to make sure the manna was properly collected!

Also, he had to inscribe the Ten Commandments on two slabs of stone! That takes a lot of work!

You don't ask Moses to keep a daily journal of the forty-year journey. That's like asking Captain Kirk to keep a daily log of the five-year mission. Oh wait...

albert

Yes, Lazario, people can indeed be bad people and use the good word of God for their own evil purposes, even change it, in meaning, context, or more. So?

I still can believe God let authors know what needed to be said, though perhaps some of it was added to or changed over the years by people not inspired by God. And I will still believe.

I thought this thread was suppose to be more fabulous...?

Nick Bryant wrote:I thought this thread was suppose to be more fabulous...?

We need 12 CCs of trendy clothes in pink glitter, stat!

Flanger-Hanger wrote:

Nick Bryant wrote:I thought this thread was suppose to be more fabulous...?

We need 12 CCs of trendy clothes in pink glitter, stat!

LMAO that was too funny!

Enough on religion people, it's starting to get tiresome don't we already have enough pages to wet your appetite ? Let's have some more fun stories in here for a change

Flanger-Hanger wrote:

Nick Bryant wrote:I thought this thread was suppose to be more fabulous...?

We need 12 CCs of trendy clothes in pink glitter, stat!

Definitely enough on religion. You're starting to sound like my very straight male relatives of my generation whose whole lives are all about religion. They bore me to smithereens, literally having religious debates in motor vehicles for over six hours.

xxhplinkxx wrote:

ajmrowland wrote:just like being autistic isn't just something you do for an hour a day.

WHEEEEW! That made me majorly laugh. I just pictured everyone in like an office building randomly doing it for an hour every day, then going back to being normal for the rest of the day as if nothing happened, hahahaha.

Lawdy, lawdy, lawdy. I leave for over a year and nothing has changed, it seems.

I am still on the autistic spectrum (as I've been since birth), I am still passing for a crazily driven neurotypical (which is autie speak for "non-autie") in part as a cover-up, and I am still very much a bisexual.

So I have to say, I somewhat disagree with all of the above, in my own case and in my own strange way.

Disney's Divinity wrote:And I just remembered how my cousins used to dress me up as a girl whenever I was at my grandmother’s. ...One of my more questionable memories.

I, along with other female cousins, always did that to one of our younger male cousins when we were little! Are we related? What is your first name?

Flanger-Hanger wrote:

Nick Bryant wrote:I thought this thread was suppose to be more fabulous...?

We need 12 CCs of trendy clothes in pink glitter, stat!

Eh- who really cares about pink glitter and trendy clothes, anyway? It's a funny system, really. Someone else tells us what's in and based on that, we do what they say and give them money. Sounds a little fishy to me.


Anyway, as usual I'm the bearer of bad news:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090817/ap_ ... y_killings

They're calling it "Social Cleansing." Where do they get the idea that it's either social or cleasning... Probably Religion, as usual.

Just another slice of hell for our people. Some days you have to wonder whether things will ever get better...

Just so everyone knows, i'm not gay but I am tolerable of them. Each to their own.