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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:43 am
by Christian
It's unavailability has made it more of a holy grail than it would be otherwise.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:17 pm
by Little Red Henski
Christian wrote:What if it had an intro with James Earl Jones and Leonard Maltin?
I would rather have Wayne Brady do the intro. Wayne Brady is an actual fan of this movie plus he said he wants to voice Brer Bear in Song of the South 2. :lol:

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:52 pm
by Christian
Okay, Wayne Brady then. I don't have a problem with that. BTW, where did you hear him say that?

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:02 pm
by Little Red Henski
Christian wrote:Okay, Wayne Brady then. I don't have a problem with that. BTW, where did you hear him say that?
http://www.songofthesouth.net/news/2004.html#050104

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:06 pm
by Christian
That's cool. Not to be nitpicky but you said that he wanted to do the voice but from reading the article it looks like he already has.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:11 pm
by orestes.
I would find it odd if Wayne Brady did an introduction but maybe that's me. I would think that if they had an intro for this Disney Classic they would get someone more established like James Earl Jones or Leonard Maltin. Wayne Brady is great and all but I think that'll turn a lot of people off. Until recently I thought everyone thought he was great... :P

It would be interesting if they interviewed a ton of stars and they shared their memories or feelings on the film like what it means to them. :)

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 1:25 am
by Christian
Did someone here say that they don't like Wayne Brady? Or are you referring to The Wayne Brady Show being cancelled?

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 6:40 pm
by karlsen
Class316 wrote:
karlsen wrote:Yes, but nothing of this would be enough for a 2 disc special edition that some people here hopes for.
If I can come up with all that with just one Internet link, I'm sure Disney can come up with quite a bit.
Yes, if it had been just an ordinary website I would agree, but you enterd into the website that is specialised in this movie in particular and has collected everything they can get. :wink:

If you take everything from the Laserdisc editions, and everything from that website it would not fill any place at all. I am not trying to be negative here I am only trying to show people what I belive are realistic so they don't get upset when it is "only" a 1 disc edition when it comes.

I firmly don't belive that the Disney studio has much of material on this one. There might be a lot of photos and radio comersials but not any documentarys and stuff like that.

There should be no problem to make something new with people talking about the movie but not enough to get a 2 disc edition.

You must remember that you can put a lot on 1 disc before it is full.

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 10:10 pm
by Christian
This has nothing to do with Song of the South but for some reason I find the 2-disc cases (the kind where one disc is on the hinged, flappy part) to be sturdier than the standard one-disc case.

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 2:14 am
by 2099net
karlsen wrote: There should be no problem to make something new with people talking about the movie but not enough to get a 2 disc edition.

You must remember that you can put a lot on 1 disc before it is full.
I agree with the comment about new interviews, but I do think a 2 disc set could be made. If Disney wanted to. As well as talking about the film and it's impact (and it did have a postive impact at the time, especially regarding leading roles for black Americans), they could discuss the true history of the piece, the origins of the original Brer stories, they are bound to have kepts artwork, so we could have a narrated Art Review, and there's stuff they could do on the songs, theme park attractions and child stars.

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 4:47 pm
by karlsen
2099net wrote:they could do on the songs, theme park attractions and child stars.
The extras will always focus on the film and not everything else. The theme park attraction could (and should) be mentioned but I don't agree that there should be any longer feauture on that one. The child stars are bound to be talked about but there should not be any documentary of child stars in general.

But hey, let us waite and fucus on getting the message thru to Disney that we want this disc rather then fantasysing about what it could contain. If anything we could try and find out how Disney in the best maner could release this without getting some weirdos on their neck for being rasists.

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 8:10 pm
by Little Red Henski
Disney could also put some retarded kids games on the DVD. Kind of like how they released the Alice DVD.

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 9:27 pm
by JoeyOhhhh
If Disney were to put a DTS track on it, it might push for a 2 disc set.

Though currently their animated titles (or atleast classic titles) haven't had DTS tracks in region 1.

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:58 pm
by RobinGoodfellow
Wayne Brady, fan or not, is not the authoritian black figure you need for the intro to something like this. As part of a feature on the film's effects or then-revolutionary casting and such (i.e. Uncle Remus was the first major live action Disney part, right?) but you need a James Earl Jones or Sam Jackson to sell this. And keep the guy who played JarJar miles away.

Theme park-wise... The main reason a SotS ride was made was because of America Sings. THe AS! designs were close enough to fit into a SotS ride, meaning less than 10 new figures would have to be built. Might make a cool feature on a DVD.

I don't think SotS should be a family release though. It is asking for trouble. How'd you guys feel if the entire film was a Disney Treasure and the animation was edited for kids DVD? But it's a travesty that it's released in markets with less exposure to African Americans. Ok, you guys see the voodoo blackface Pokemon?

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:32 am
by Little Red Henski
I really like James Earl Jones & Sam Jackson but I don't view them as authority figures. :lol: As long as they don't hire Spike Lee, a gangta rapper or someone with ties to the Bush regime I'll be happy.

The real travisty is the fact that I can't buy this movie in the U.S. Kids can see worst Black stereotypes on BET. I owned a Song of the South storybook & record as a child & it didn't hurt me.

I have a bootleg tape of the banned Christmas Pokemon episode staring Jinx. Jinx is a psychic Pokemon not a vodoo.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:12 pm
by RobinGoodfellow
Little Red Henski wrote:I really like James Earl Jones & Sam Jackson but I don't view them as authority figures. :lol: As long as they don't hire Spike Lee, a gangta rapper or someone with ties to the Bush regime I'll be happy.
I'm talking about an authority figure in the black community.
The real travisty is the fact that I can't buy this movie in the U.S. Kids can see worst Black stereotypes on BET.
And that's exactly what people like Spike Lee and Aaron McGruder and Bill Cosby bring up... Hip hop culture verges on minstrel traditions and poor values. There's a fine line between minority identity and stereotypes.

I've got to say what upset me most about SotS was how Uncle Remus was pushed aside at the end, having no place in the reunited family. Perhaps he's even related by blood`
I have a bootleg tape of the banned Christmas Pokemon episode staring Jinx. Jinx is a psychic Pokemon not a vodoo.
Jinx and a DBZ character called Mr. Popo have been rendered in blackface, although in the former's case said artwork doesn't show up here.

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:55 am
by Little Red Henski
I am a black person and I live in a black neighborhood so I am a member of the Black community. As for Mr. Popo & Jinxs. They are based on the way black people used to be drawned in classic cartoons from the 30's. All of my friends just laugh at them and are not offended. I admit I don't hang around militant types who have no sense of humor.

Do you know Jinx is one of only 2 Pokemon that is banned from the Pokemon center in New York. :roll: Can you beleive that they censored Mr. Popo lips from the US edition of the Dragonball manga. :x The manga has a 13 and up rating on the cover for goodness sakes. Censorship sucks.

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:51 pm
by Class316
In other news, the sole survivor from Song of the South dies
Ruth Warrick, "Sally" in Song of the South, Passes Away

Very sadly, Ruth Warrick passed away on January 15 at the age of 88. She was the last known surviving actress from Song of the South.

Ruth Warrick's film debut was in the 1941 masterpiece Citizen Kane as Emily Norton Kane. She went on to perform in several other movies throughout the 1940's and early 1950's, including Sally in Song of the South. On TV, she was perhaps best known as Phoebe from the soap opera All My Children.

To Ms. Warrick, Song of the South would always be "a very special movie." She was saddened by the fact that the movie had not been released, and felt that the movie was "probably one of [Disney's] crowning points." She will be greatly missed.


http://songofthesouth.net/news/index.html

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:46 pm
by Escapay
I mentioned that a few days ago in Off-Topic:

http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... php?t=6971

Ruth Warrick may not have been a household name, but she was a big name in daytime. Though I probably shouldn't speak for all of them, I'm pretty sure daytime fans would want to pick up this gem with her in it.

Escapay

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:59 pm
by Christian
Hopefully some enterprising soul at Disney interviewed Ruth Warrick before she passed away so they could put the interview on the SOTS DVD.