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the reason why Pocahontas didnt get an Imax release is becuase its not popular and I dont know why, as you can tell I LOVE Pocahontas, I've watched the movie over 10,000 times and when the spirit of pocahontas show was playing at disneyland I went to all five daily shows, but the menu picture of pocahontas and the waterfall look LOVELY I cant wait

Joe Carioca wrote:Well, we are getting most of the material from the LD but not all of it. Here is what we are missing (some significant material, actually):

*Text-based material on the real Pocahontas and on the production of the film
*Sequence and storyboard breakdowns on several sequences (Ship landing; Pocahontas and John Smith meet; Colors of the Wind; Savages (Part 2); Farewell)
*The "Pocahontas" Animation Discovery Adventure Tour - promotional featurette on a special Pocahontas tour from 1995.
*Early Concept: "Colors of the Wind" - original version of the sequence with storyboards by Eric Goldberg
*Alternate ending: "If I Never Knew You" - beautiful version of the ending in which Pocahontas and John Smith sing a few verses of "If I Never Knew You" before his departure. It shows up from time to time on The Whole New World of Alan Menken site.

Wow! All that stuff sounds amazing! It's ashame it did not make it over. Well, Maybe it did it just wasn't mentioned... A guy can hope anyway.

PocahontasPride wrote:the reason why Pocahontas didnt get an Imax release is becuase its not popular and I dont know why, as you can tell I LOVE Pocahontas, I've watched the movie over 10,000 times and when the spirit of pocahontas show was playing at disneyland I went to all five daily shows, but the menu picture of pocahontas and the waterfall look LOVELY I cant wait

Actually the reason this, as well as Aladdin (and Mermaid and Tarzan, which were also suppose to get them), didn't get an IMAX release is because Disney lost money when Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King were released in IMAX, or if they didn't lose money they just didn't make enough for them to want to release anymore...



Anyway, I'm really anticipating this, the sooner it comes out the better! I am exhausted from waiting!

Pocahontas also doesn't strike me as the type of film that would benefit from an Imax presentation to the extent that BATB, TLK, and Aladdin would.

-Aaron

well atleast it gets its only DVD <3

WHERE CAN I GET THE HANDS ON THIS DVD?
OR DO I HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL DISNEY "DECIDES" TO RELEASE IT IN THE US?

FUN FACT: The Hut Scene(If I Never Knew You) was originally in the First film. It was taken out during tests screening because kids were getting bored, and some adults thought it was too steamy. It was already in full color animation, so Disney didn't create a new sequence such as "Human Again," in Beauty and the Beast. They were just correcting a huge (in my opinion) mistake. (the mistake being the cutting of the song in the first place.) I am excited to see the song back where it should be. It it one of those rare occasions, where it adds depth and strength to the film's main characters as well as the story itself

Disney's already "decided" to release it in the U.S, but they haven't chosen a date, yet. We'll most likely be seeing this Spring of 2005.

Thanks a lot for the screencaps, Loomis!
I was almost sure they were going to re-use the menus from the first edition. It's nice that they took the effort to creat something new. Beautiful menus, by the way.

Joe Carioca wrote:Thanks a lot for the screencaps, Loomis!
I was almost sure they were going to re-use the menus from the first edition. It's nice that they took the effort to creat something new. Beautiful menus, by the way.

Incidently, the Pocahontas menus, do seem to be repeated from the UK (and presumably other international) editions.

Yay! Can't wait for the release! Thanks for all the info, Loomis!

meekochick wrote:FUN FACT: The Hut Scene(If I Never Knew You) was originally in the First film. It was taken out during tests screening because kids were getting bored, and some adults thought it was too steamy. It was already in full color animation, so Disney didn't create a new sequence such as "Human Again," in Beauty and the Beast. They were just correcting a huge (in my opinion) mistake. (the mistake being the cutting of the song in the first place.) I am excited to see the song back where it should be. It it one of those rare occasions, where it adds depth and strength to the film's main characters as well as the story itself

So it's not an all-new scene, just a put back scene?

It's kinda sorta new. The scene actually wasn't completely finished. Some shots made it to final colorization, but other shots only made it to rough or clean-up animation, and I think a couple of shots of Meeko and Percy only made it to storyboards. So it's not simply a case of inserting a completely existing scene back into the film; Disney had to actually put effort into it, coloring the animation and presumably creating new animation for the shots involving the sidekicks.

Aaron wrote: Pocahontas also doesn't strike me as the type of film that would benefit from an Imax presentation to the extent that BATB, TLK, and Aladdin would.

Any movie would benefit from an Imax presentation if done right (digitally scanned at the corrrect high resolution, enhanced and laser burned into IMAX and then correctly focused in projection while you sat at the correct viewing distance. In theory that would make you get the sharpness of what's on the negative (or in the digital files) at or near 100% contrast.

For example, Pocahontas at 1.66 would measure roughly like 42mm x 70mm on IMAX. Altho Kodak doesn't publish the resolution specs anymore for the current stock, I do have the old ones (and the newer ones is suposedly sharper) and it used to be 320 lines per mm (which is actually line PAIRS per mm , or cycles/mm) so Laser burned IMAX print film could hold 27,000 x 45,000 cycles (kind of like 54,000 x 90,000 pixels ) altho not at 100% sharpnes, that's good enough for the lower real life frequencies to BE recorded near 100% sharpness especially if you use digital enhancemet on the burn. So if done correctly it could hold/show everything there is to see and only the lens limitations would be the limiting factor. But of course, the flick of a careless wrist can destroy all this in a microsecond by defocusing all the fine detail and edge sharpness to kingdomcome.

(I've only seen two IMAX presentations. Lets just say my PAL Final Fantasy dvd looks kinda better that the IMAX i saw of it. The other one looked like a regular good 35mm presentation. nothing to write home about.)

Any Disney film in IMAX (specially those derived from a digital render) should look incredible and pristine. the best it'll ever look on a film presentation ...




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I want 25:9 digital displays so I can have my IMAX and eat it too
so i can see

I am just eager and excited about it all, I'll spend whatever they ask for the DVD *_*

kind of glad Pocahontas is coming to dvd. i only saw it once but i never ever saw the whole entire thing. i remember it first came out just as we finished learning about the real Pocahontas in social studies in middle school. i was upset that the movie wasn't actually following history all that well, and i left my cousin's living room because of that fact and probably because i was in a "i'm almost a teenager i don't watch kiddie cartoons, so i'm going to hang out with the cool teenage cousins" stage. haha i was such a stupid silly kid. luckily i grew out of that stage within the year.

see I am the excat opposite Jane, I was GLAD they didnt follow history, i was all WOOHOOO

First "Lilo & Stitch" review is up: http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=13303
Note: it is a review of the Italian edition

Thanks for the link, Joe! That review was excellent. The deleted scenes are what interest me the most because the majority made it to final animation, which makes them all the more fascinating. Even before I knew that about how much was cut from the Jumba-in-Lilo's-house-scene, I always thought that scene felt "off", like if they were building up to something that never came (which it seems they did with Stitch blowing the house up with gasoline). The lack of trailer doesn't bother me because my Vault Disney DVD's and Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh DVD all have Lilo's theatrical trailer. The filmmakers weren't kidding when they said they wanted this to be the best Disney DVD ever since this is more of a "you are there" style of "making of" as opposed to sit down, retrospective interviews.

[quote="meekochick"]WHERE CAN I GET THE HANDS ON THIS DVD?
OR DO I HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL DISNEY "DECIDES" TO RELEASE IT IN THE US?


You can purchase from the following DVD web site. They will ship to the US..

You of course just need to make sure your DVD player can play multi-region DVD's from region 4.

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/229269

As International customers are not subject to the Australian GST (Goods and Services tax). You would be looking at a price of US$13.93 + shipping.

13.93 US Dollars
1 AUD = 0.7725 USD
1 USD = 1.2946 AUD

It is the same price for the new Lilo & Stitch 2 disc DVD

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/228909

Hope that helps

Is there any scenes that are cut out of the Region 4 DVD that appear in the region 1? The running time is shorter, and I was wondering if that was the reason.

Don't know, but apparently the Region 2 DVD is uncut according to the DVDTimes review:

More importantly, the version of the film featured here is the original version, rather than the modified UK version which replaced a shot of a washing-machine with one of a cupboard in order to avoid a "12" certificate (quite possibly the most ridiculous classification decision the BBFC have made in recent years). Further still, the UK version inserted a tacky Gareth Gates cover of Elvis Presley's Suspicious Minds into the closing credits, which is mercifully absent here, although the teenybopper song that was present in both editions and, naturally, appears here, is no better.

So it seems that even on the original Italian single disc, it shared the same edits as the UK/Australian one. If that's the case, then the UK and Australian editions should be uncut if the Italian one is, too. Of course, the only person who can answer that for sure is our very own Loomis.

The Washing Machine/Cupboard "cut" in the UK wasn't a cut - it was a subsitution especially done by Disney animators. The run time was not affected.

I fully expect the UK 2 disc set, when it comes out, to have the Garath Gates song on the closing credits, just as the UK single disc DVD did - but no other R2 releases did. Disney presses different R2 PAL discs for different European countries as each has their own DTS soundtrack (in general when DTS is included). Note: The Garath Gates song "Suspicious Minds" was on the UK theatrical showings of Lilo and Stitch, but no other countries to my knowledge.

Garath Gates was our Pop (read American) Idol runner-up a few years ago. And he should have won it too - pesky Will Young won (who can be heard and seen on the 101 Dalmatians 2 DVD).

(The UK Little Mermaid DVD had *shudder* Peter Andre's Kiss the Girl).

The Australian release has a shorter runtime not because of cuts, but because of the infamous PAL-Speedup!

(24 frames of film per second become 25 fields of video per second - roughly a 4% speed-up. Thus 100 minutes in film/NTSC becomes 94 minutes in PAL). Hey, don't knock it. It means our Lord of the Rings viewing is substantially shorter (thankfully).