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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:33 am
by TheSequelOfDisney
Just to point this out, but Fantasia 2000 isn't a sequel. It is a continuation of the original. Not to gripe, but it's a fact. The other three are sequels, though, and I think that best of them are The Rescuers Down Under. The other two, however a good pleasure to watch, don't really relate to the story. Well they do, because they are sequels, but they don't have the same "feel" as TRDU does.
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:45 pm
by Escapay
TheSequelofDisney wrote:Just to point this out, but Fantasia 2000 isn't a sequel. It is a continuation of the original. Not to gripe, but it's a fact.
Odd...I always thought continuation = sequel. Afer all, Back to the Future II and III are continuations of the first...
Either way, it doesn't matter to me as I consider
Fantasia 2000 to be a *companion* to
Fantasia, not a sequel/continuation.
Escapay
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:17 pm
by TheSequelOfDisney
Escapay wrote:TheSequelofDisney wrote:Just to point this out, but Fantasia 2000 isn't a sequel. It is a continuation of the original. Not to gripe, but it's a fact.
Odd...I always thought continuation = sequel. Afer all, Back to the Future II and III are continuations of the first...
Either way, it doesn't matter to me as I consider
Fantasia 2000 to be a *companion* to
Fantasia, not a sequel/continuation.
Escapay
I probably should have picked a better word
I agree it is a wonderful companion to the original. I think I said it was a continuation because I was think of the original and how Walt wanted "Fantasia" to continue. But whatever.
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:50 am
by humphreybear
to me, the whole point of the ending of the jungle book is that mowgli followed the girl to the man village. He was making a choice to leave the jungle, and the world he knew there and the friends and family he had, to be a human and live with people. If he could just come and go back and forth between the man village and the jungle then there really wasn't much of a point to the original jungle book. Bagheera wanted to take him to live in the man village to keep him safe from shere kahn. Mowgli didn't want to go. And he defeated Shere Kahn anyway. So there wasn't a necessity for him to go, but then his human nature was realized when he saw the girl getting water. That choice - of following the girl or not - was sort of the climax of the film. It was a one-way decision. The jungle book 2 really was not necessary in any way shape or form, imho. Just my opinion.
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:07 am
by UmbrellaFish
I really don't care for most of the sequels up there. I voted Peter Pan: Return to Neverland, though.
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:38 pm
by slave2moonlight
humphreybear wrote:to me, the whole point of the ending of the jungle book is that mowgli followed the girl to the man village. He was making a choice to leave the jungle, and the world he knew there and the friends and family he had, to be a human and live with people. If he could just come and go back and forth between the man village and the jungle then there really wasn't much of a point to the original jungle book. Bagheera wanted to take him to live in the man village to keep him safe from shere kahn. Mowgli didn't want to go. And he defeated Shere Kahn anyway. So there wasn't a necessity for him to go, but then his human nature was realized when he saw the girl getting water. That choice - of following the girl or not - was sort of the climax of the film. It was a one-way decision. The jungle book 2 really was not necessary in any way shape or form, imho. Just my opinion.
You had me until those last two sentences. There are plenty of reasons to continue with Mowgli's story. Think of the old film with Sabu, which is all about Mowgli's struggle to live within the man village. He is not welcomed there by everyone. He is seen as wild and dangerous, and has to prove himself to them and figure out where he stands in both worlds. I can't say the Jungle Book 2 satisfied that need for the audience to see how Mowgli handled the extreme lifestyle change, but it did touch upon it. The film fails for me in that regard, though it is still entertaining as a further Mowgli adventure for the little ones, but they could have made a very good film that answered important questions.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:38 pm
by rs_milo_whatever
i had forgotten, about down under, it was the first movie in my disney collection!!!!! it's REALLY cool!!! but bambi II wasn't listed, then again thats a DTV.