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Disney's Divinity wrote:Well...if we're going to have respect...that would include not mocking people in completely unrelated discussions. If a person is obese, absolutely nobody is saying you have to think they "look good" or to be attracted to them or say they're healthy when they're not. But that should mean having enough self-awareness to know that their entire mindset isn't going to revolve around looking the way you want them to either. It's nobody's business. Saying you're concerned about their health is bs. Why don't you work on making healthy foods affordable if you care that much? That would be more productive than making someone feel awful about themselves. Just a thought.

I didn't realize the only reason why you'd be concerned for someone's health is if you're something in the field of improving one's health. Huh. News to me.

Sotiris wrote:

Super Aurora wrote:Of all the things he talked about, this is what stood out to you?

Yeah, because his bias was so obvious it stuck out like a sore thumb. As for his rather pointless rant, I did not have anything to add as other people addressed it adequately.

No, you're just seeing things that aren't even there to begin with. Sounds to me like an excuse to whine over something completely unrelated to the thread's subject.

Sotiris wrote:

Super Aurora wrote:And I like how people, especially SJW, use the word "entitled" as such a derogatory thing.

Being entitled is a negative trait. How else is supposed to be used?

entitle |enˈtītl|
verb [ with obj. ] (usu. be entitled)
1 give (someone) a legal right or a just claim to receive or do something: employees are normally entitled to severance pay | [ with obj. and infinitive ] : the landlord is entitled to require references.
2 give (something, esp. a text or work of art) a particular title: an article entitled “The Harried Society.”
• [ with obj. and complement ] archaic give (someone) a specified title expressing their rank, office, or character: they entitled him Sultan.

So basically you being a mod must be a negative thing, since that's basically an entitled position. Maybe you want resign yourself?

ProfessorRatigan wrote:

Disney Duster wrote:Maybe we have to accept that Frozen is considered an incredible movie, better than the few good recent previous ones, in a lot of people's opinion, even if to us it's not.

I don't think we have to accept anything. If you like something, you like it. If you don't, you don't. Just because a bunch of people like something you don't or don't like something you DO, that doesn't mean you should just go with the crowd. Form your own opinions. Stick with them. Fight for them. That's what being a fan of art is all about, right? Discussion! Debate! Popular and/or critical consensus never means a damn in the long run. A film is either going to make it or it's going to be forgotten and dismissed in the future. All you can do is be true to your own feelings and your own likes and dislikes.

Oh, I think we had a misunderstanding. You were actually saying we don't need to agree with other people's opinions, and instead hold on to and fight for us to have our own? That I agree with. Sorry. I was just saying we need to respect other people have different opinions.

Super Aurora wrote:

Sotiris wrote: Being entitled is a negative trait. How else is supposed to be used?

entitle |enˈtītl|
verb [ with obj. ] (usu. be entitled)
1 give (someone) a legal right or a just claim to receive or do something: employees are normally entitled to severance pay | [ with obj. and infinitive ] : the landlord is entitled to require references.
2 give (something, esp. a text or work of art) a particular title: an article entitled “The Harried Society.”
• [ with obj. and complement ] archaic give (someone) a specified title expressing their rank, office, or character: they entitled him Sultan.

So basically you being a mod must be a negative thing, since that's basically an entitled position. Maybe you want resign yourself?

Or we can use the actual definition as they're using it which is an adjective:

en·ti·tled |inˈtīdld,enˈtīdld|
adjective
1 believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.
"his pompous, entitled attitude"

...which is derogatory.

The_Iceflash wrote:
Or we can use the actual definition as they're using it which is an adjective:

en·ti·tled |inˈtīdld,enˈtīdld|
adjective
1 believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.
"his pompous, entitled attitude"

...which is derogatory.

Which still doesn't makes sense in the content describing Big One. No where in any of his posts is Big One is "believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment." So it still doesn't make sense and is using it incorrectly. If anything, that sounds like it describes Sotiris way more than Big One.

Super Aurora wrote:If anything, that sounds like it describes Sotiris way more than Big One.

No.

I'm not sure where entitlement has to do with anything I've discussed. I'm not entitled to anything, other than maybe explaining how I'm misogynistic in any shape, form, or fashion and I'll apologize for it if a sound argument can be made. Until then, you guys don't have much to suggest I am so I'd like to continue the main discussion about Frozen being overexposed.

Well, this seems relevant.

Frozen director "sorry" for movie's catchy songs like Let It Go!

Frozen's co-director Jennifer Lee has jokingly apologised to parents who've had to listen to the film's song 'Let It Go' over and over again. The signature song from the movie is a pretty fabulous, empowering and very catchy track… but maybe not after you've listened to it numerous times in a row as some parents have!

http://www.reveal.co.uk/showbiz-celeb-g ... it-go.html

The noteworthy thing about the huge success of "Frozen" is that it's a so-called fairytale/princess movie that has been the huge blockbuster, which is Disney's trademark. Unlike "The Lion King", who was a naturalistic animal-movie.

But "The Lion king" was talking animals and I think talking animals are equally their trademark.

I think it's nice that people are into something from Disney again, like back in the 90s. I actually love that people are relating to the characters and loving the songs. Perhaps it's stereotypical of me to say I relate to Elsa (since everyone else seems to as well), but I do.

Maybe it doesn't hurt that I have a one-year-old boy obsessing over the film.

I think Let It Go is the most ubiquitous pop song since My Heart Will Go On in 1997. Everybody seems to have heard it. Not many songs like that in today's music world. In fact I can't think of any...

Disney Duster wrote:But "The Lion king" was talking animals and I think talking animals are equally their trademark.

True, but they're not as marketed as the Princess/fairy tale lines have been (at least lately). I'm not saying that the animal movies aren't promoted, but let's face it, Disney are considering their Princess movies to be more important, considering how they began with one and several of them brought the company back on track again, as "Cinderella" and "Mermaid" (I'm tempted to say "The Princess and the Frog" as well, since it wasn't a flop, but considering that it wasn't the big breakout for Disney, I'm not sure if it counts). And let's not how forget how huge successes "Beauty and the Beast" and "Tangled" were.

DisneyFan09 wrote:

Disney Duster wrote:But "The Lion king" was talking animals and I think talking animals are equally their trademark.

True, but they're not as marketed as the Princess/fairy tale lines have been (at least lately). I'm not saying that the animal movies aren't promoted, but let's face it, Disney are considering their Princess movies to be more important, considering how they began with one and several of them brought the company back on track again, as "Cinderella" and "Mermaid" (I'm tempted to say "The Princess and the Frog" as well, since it wasn't a flop, but considering that it wasn't the big breakout for Disney, I'm not sure if it counts). And let's not how forget how huge successes "Beauty and the Beast" and "Tangled" were.

As a matter of fact, The Princess and the Frog does, in a way, count because it did get Disney back on track by, like The Little Mermaid before, getting people to start seeing Disney movies in the theaters again.

carolinakid wrote:I think Let It Go is the most ubiquitous pop song since My Heart Will Go On in 1997. Everybody seems to have heard it. Not many songs like that in today's music world. In fact I can't think of any...

Adele doesn't come to mind?

But, yes, it's very strange to see other people fascinated with a Disney film again. It's especially nice if you remember the good times during the '90s high.

I'm tired of Let it go or some other frozen song playing every time I go into the Disney Store on the screen there with Elsa's coronation dress mysteriously changing into the blue one with a rip in the front that let's her left leg and foot show.

DisneyFan09 wrote:

Disney Duster wrote:But "The Lion king" was talking animals and I think talking animals are equally their trademark.

True, but they're not as marketed as the Princess/fairy tale lines have been (at least lately). I'm not saying that the animal movies aren't promoted, but let's face it, Disney are considering their Princess movies to be more important, considering how they began with one and several of them brought the company back on track again, as "Cinderella" and "Mermaid" (I'm tempted to say "The Princess and the Frog" as well, since it wasn't a flop, but considering that it wasn't the big breakout for Disney, I'm not sure if it counts). And let's not how forget how huge successes "Beauty and the Beast" and "Tangled" were.

Yea...so I guess fairy tale movies are slightly more their trademark, even from the beginning with Snow White.

^ And yet it all started with a mouse. Or a rabbit if you want to go back even farther.

Btw, who/what is Adele, in reference to it in an earlier post.

Adele is a pop singer.

Disney Duster wrote: Yea...so I guess fairy tale movies are slightly more their trademark, even from the beginning with Snow White.

The fairytales are definitively their main trademark. But I'm not completely neglecting your idea. The animals are their trademark as well. But I'm just giving my analysis. I could be wrong as well.