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Are you saying you have a faith but not a religion?pap wrote:The way I see it, religion and faith are two different things. Faith is the belief that there is something grand and with deeper meaning in life. To me, religion RESTRICTS faith and tries to mold it into an uniformed mentality, which is something I hate. Like I said, I am technically a "Christian" that believes in God and Jesus, but I don't like religion, I don't like going to church and I don't like the Bible as being the "ALL MIGHTY RULE BOOK".
Like I said earlier, I believe in love as being a powerful decision, and the sad thing is that many religions restrict how far we are willing to love our fellow human beings, no matter how different they may be. I just don't want to be put in the same category as the religious nutcases because I decided to followed a faith that makes sense to me and just me.
yeah you can have faith without religion. It's called having faith in yourself.Disney Duster wrote:Things that make life worth living:
Anything that makes you happy and doesn't harm others.
Things that make life not worth living:
People that rip apart and shred good things that can be believed in.
People who are too scientific and logical.
People that reduce things to only the physical/material/parts.
Reducing anything to something less than it really was/is.
Being cynical.
Being hateful.
Being misanthropic.
Are you saying you have a faith but not a religion?Lazario wrote:The way I see it, religion and faith are two different things. Faith is the belief that there is something grand and with deeper meaning in life. To me, religion RESTRICTS faith and tries to mold it into an uniformed mentality, which is something I hate. Like I said, I am technically a "Christian" that believes in God and Jesus, but I don't like religion, I don't like going to church and I don't like the Bible as being the "ALL MIGHTY RULE BOOK".
Like I said earlier, I believe in love as being a powerful decision, and the sad thing is that many religions restrict how far we are willing to love our fellow human beings, no matter how different they may be. I just don't want to be put in the same category as the religious nutcases because I decided to followed a faith that makes sense to me and just me.
I'm pretty sure faith is just your ability to believe, and religion is what you believe in. Also religion is a guide. Can it feel restricting? Well yea if it restricts stuff you think shouldn't be restricted, but that's all up to opinion.
Why do you still bother with me then?Disney Duster wrote:Things that make life not worth living:
People that rip apart and shred good things that can be believed in.
People who are too scientific and logical.
People that reduce things to only the physical/material/parts.
Being cynical.
Being misanthropic.
Were you thinking of me when you wrote this?Disney Duster wrote:People that rip apart and shred good things that can be believed in.
People who are too scientific and logical.
People that reduce things to only the physical/material/parts.
Reducing anything to something less than it really was/is.
Being cynical.
Being hateful.
Being misanthropic.
I know. But pap has more than faith in himself he has a faith in a religion.Super Aurora wrote:yeah you can have faith without religion. It's called having faith in yourself.
Why? Is it a small thing or you wanna pm me about it?Super Aurora wrote:LOL at "People who are too scientific and logical." as things not worth living.
Please tell me you don't do *all* of those things.Goliath wrote:Why do you still bother with me then?Disney Duster wrote:Things that make life not worth living:
People that rip apart and shred good things that can be believed in.
People who are too scientific and logical.
People that reduce things to only the physical/material/parts.
Being cynical.
Being misanthropic.
Hehe well you were one person who did cross my mind when thinking of such things, yes. What about me for your list of what makes life not worth living? : /Dr Frankenollie wrote:Were you thinking of me when you wrote this?
Good for him. All I'm saying is faith isn't restricted solely to religion.Disney Duster wrote:I know. But pap has more than faith in himself he has a faith in a religion.Super Aurora wrote:yeah you can have faith without religion. It's called having faith in yourself.
Huh? Can you elaborate what you're saying bit more. I don't get what it is you are asking or why you need me to pm you.Disney Duster wrote:Why? Is it a small thing or you wanna pm me about it?Super Aurora wrote:LOL at "People who are too scientific and logical." as things not worth living.
I was pointing out that I was explaining to pap that he has faith in a religion when it sounded like he was saying he didn't.Super Aurora wrote:Good for him. All I'm saying is faith isn't restricted solely to religion.
Well I was just wondering why you laughed at what I said I thought you might wanna explain why.Super Aurora wrote:Huh? Can you elaborate what you're saying bit more. I don't get what it is you are asking or why you need me to pm you.
Oh that. Come-on Mike use your head. Why you think I would laugh at that? lol if you still can't figure it out then I'll tell you when you come over.Disney Duster wrote:Well I was just wondering why you laughed at what I said I thought you might wanna explain why.Super Aurora wrote:Huh? Can you elaborate what you're saying bit more. I don't get what it is you are asking or why you need me to pm you.
I had a tiny TV in my bedroom too.Goliath wrote:And I had my own little tv in my bedroom, so I would secretely watch.
But I don't think there was free porn on the internet back then. There were pnly pay-sites and even then, with the 'speed' people had back then, I can't imagine videos playing too well.Lazario wrote:I had a tiny TV in my bedroom too.Goliath wrote:And I had my own little tv in my bedroom, so I would secretely watch.
My best friend next door had a computer and internet access in her bedroom (in the 90's yet, so I was always impressed)... but she claims she only used it for chat rooms.
Well I thought you might use your head too (I'm just saying it cause you said it to me, I know you use your head) and think how those things could be bad. They can do good and also do bad. I just didn't think you would laugh at that after knowing me.Super Aurora wrote:Oh that. Come-on Mike use your head. Why you think I would laugh at that? lol if you still can't figure it out then I'll tell you when you come over.
Uh...yea I pretty much agree. I also read the more educated you are the more depressed. I know someone who never went to college - he's gotta be the happiest man I knew till he lost his job. But you know, even if science does seem to prove something that goes against your faith, you're still able to have faith, because you just never know if science somehow got it wrong or they didn't catch something or you're unaware of something that would still make your faith possible/rght. You just never know. You can always have faith.ajmrowland wrote:There *is* such a thing as being too scientific and logical. the problem is knowledge often begets depression and some of these people(myself included) arent too happy. So there needs to be some acceptance about not knowing. *some* faith in things you're not gonna understand. And if science proves something, discard your previously held faith. Harder if you grew up that way.
Ignorance is bliss, I guess?Disney Duster wrote:I also read the more educated you are the more depressed. I know someone who never went to college - he's gotta be the happiest man I knew till he lost his job.
The more you learn about life, the world, current events and history, the easier it is to be cynical and depressed. Not that all educated people are depressed, just to put that out there.Ignorance is strenght.Disney Duster wrote:Uh...yea I pretty much agree. I also read the more educated you are the more depressed.
DISNEY DUSTER IS WATCHING YOUGoliath wrote:Ignorance is strenght.Disney Duster wrote:Uh...yea I pretty much agree. I also read the more educated you are the more depressed.
War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
You quoted Pap, not me. Those aren't my paragraphs.Disney Duster wrote:Are you saying you have a faith but not a religion?Lazario wrote:The way I see it, religion and faith are two different things. Faith is the belief that there is something grand and with deeper meaning in life. To me, religion RESTRICTS faith and tries to mold it into an uniformed mentality, which is something I hate. Like I said, I am technically a "Christian" that believes in God and Jesus, but I don't like religion, I don't like going to church and I don't like the Bible as being the "ALL MIGHTY RULE BOOK".
Like I said earlier, I believe in love as being a powerful decision, and the sad thing is that many religions restrict how far we are willing to love our fellow human beings, no matter how different they may be. I just don't want to be put in the same category as the religious nutcases because I decided to followed a faith that makes sense to me and just me.
Funny how you really highlight all of this, the stuff that makes religious people frown, and ignore why people turn away from religiion in the first place. Ya know: elitism, murder, using it to justify intolerance, etc. Little things like that.Disney Duster wrote:Things that make life worth living:
Anything that makes you happy and doesn't harm others.
Things that make life not worth living:
People that rip apart and shred good things that can be believed in.
People who are too scientific and logical.
People that reduce things to only the physical/material/parts.
Reducing anything to something less than it really was/is.
Being cynical.
I actually say people shouldn't be ignorant either. I'm just against being too scientific and logical, which is something different than just hearing about what science says.Goliath wrote:Ignorance is strenght.Disney Duster wrote:Uh...yea I pretty much agree. I also read the more educated you are the more depressed.
War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Fixed.Lazario wrote:You quoted Pap, not me. Those aren't my paragraphs.
What do you mean? You mean you think I should have also listed elitism and murder or intolerance on my list of things that make life not worth living? Poeple already covered those. My lists covered other things and the reasons why religion is good. There's good and bad to everything, together here it seems all covered. Is there something else you meant/wanted to talk about?Lazario wrote:Funny how you really highlight all of this, the stuff that makes religious people frown, and ignore why people turn away from religiion in the first place. Ya know: elitism, murder, using it to justify intolerance, etc. Little things like that.
Generalisation, no?Disney Duster wrote:I also read the more educated you are the more depressed.