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CampbellzSoup wrote:

dvdjunkie wrote:I read all of these posts and nowhere does anyone talk about the quality of the original language dub with the english subtitles.

I have always been told that to truly enjoy a foreign film you should watch it in the original language it was released.

So that leaves those of you who don't watch in the original language with English subtitles not the purists you try to tell everyone you are.

I own "Akira", "Spirited Away", and "Kiki's Delivery Service" and have never fired up the dubbed English track. I always watch it with subtitles.

So any criticisms about the English dub are useless. You shouldn't be watching the movie that way.

Quality versus style as far as animation goes is nothing but words to me. I prefer Disney original animation versus the Japanese Anime' that I have seen. Heck, a Bugs Bunny cartoon from the 40's has more style than an Anime' film.

I disagree. I like when things are dubbed and I can relate to it more...I just hate people who tear apart the difference from the Japanese watch the original if you want.

yeah, personally. I dont wanna have to read the subtitles when I could be looking at the beautiful animation. And even in english, I sometimes need subs. I've heard plenty of good english dubbing. Not always consistent, and sometimes rather bad, but far more good.

I watch most movies -including all Disney DACs- in German, so what? Oo
Brave will be the first Disney movie in general, I'll try to find a cinema which will show the original version.

Regarding the 'Only Yesterday'-menstruation discussion. You're kidding aren't you? Why should THAT be a problem? This film was released in Germany, the UK and France several years ago and I've never read about any complain from anyone because of this scene.

^but America is puritan.

enigmawing wrote: I also fail to understand why you continue take every chance you can to bash it, unless you simply find enjoyment out of pissing people off.

That's clearly a rhetorical question.

ajmrowland wrote:
yeah, personally. I dont wanna have to read the subtitles when I could be looking at the beautiful animation. And even in english, I sometimes need subs. I've heard plenty of good english dubbing. Not always consistent, and sometimes rather bad, but far more good.

same here. when im watching cartoons of any kind, its to chill out and often to fall asleep to. if i wanted to read, i would pick up a book. plus, these days im more watching for the animation rather than the story line.

dvdjunkie wrote: Quality versus style as far as animation goes is nothing but words to me. I prefer Disney original animation versus the Japanese Anime' that I have seen.

You say that you own a couple of Ghibli's films, but have you actually paid attention to the animation in them? The studio's work is a lot more vibrant and fully-detailed than a vast majority of animated work from Japan. I think they deserve more respect than you give them credit.

And I, for one, don't mind watching dubs of anime because animation is dubbed over to begin with. I can name just as many anime series or movies that I have problems with their dubbed versions for as I find dubs I enjoy, but still, animation requires having voice acting dubbed into the characters as opposed to dialogue spoken live on set by actors in a live-action film.

It's also why I watch English dubs of Sergio Leone's films, since Italians used to dub in their actors' dialogue after recording footage as opposed to speaking it live while recording. Not to mention that most, if not all, of the actors in his westerns speak English to begin with, so they end up dubbing in their own dialogue.

dvdjunkie wrote:Heck, a Bugs Bunny cartoon from the 40's has more style than an Anime' film.

Damn right they do. The Warner cartoons from the golden age of animation have some really impressive animation in them. Nearly equal to Disney's stuff, especially when you realize how low Warner's budgets were compared to Disney and MGM back in the day.

what really pisses me off, and I may have said so already, is that I live in an area where only arrietty so far has been released out of this entire catalog. I want to see more ghibli films in theaters, regardless of dub quality.

Is there any hope at all that Disney will release Only Yesterday and Ocean Waves on DVD in the US?

Darby

Darby wrote:Is there any hope at all that Disney will release Only Yesterday and Ocean Waves on DVD in the US?

Seems unlikely. GKids can't release those either on home video as they only hold the theatrical rights.

Avaitor wrote:

dvdjunkie wrote: Quality versus style as far as animation goes is nothing but words to me. I prefer Disney original animation versus the Japanese Anime' that I have seen.

You say that you own a couple of Ghibli's films, but have you actually paid attention to the animation in them? The studio's work is a lot more vibrant and fully-detailed than a vast majority of animated work from Japan. I think they deserve more respect than you give them credit.

And I, for one, don't mind watching dubs of anime because animation is dubbed over to begin with. I can name just as many anime series or movies that I have problems with their dubbed versions for as I find dubs I enjoy, but still, animation requires having voice acting dubbed into the characters as opposed to dialogue spoken live on set by actors in a live-action film.

It's also why I watch English dubs of Sergio Leone's films, since Italians used to dub in their actors' dialogue after recording footage as opposed to speaking it live while recording. Not to mention that most, if not all, of the actors in his westerns speak English to begin with, so they end up dubbing in their own dialogue.

The problem I have with anime is that the animation is way too stiff. It comes off horribly, IMO. I don't care for anime character designs either. Oh and I know ALOT about Japanese animation and culture before that card is played to try to invalidate my opinion.

So if GKids does not have the DVD rights, will Disney continue with Ghibli's line? Seriously, I love buying these from Disney at half the price of what they would be from Japan.

Oh and for those who say Ghibli gives a bad name to Disney, remember Pixar and Disney Animators revere Miyazaki to be a renowned animator. And if it weren't for his movies, there would be no Pixar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ7ymWBf7XE
Watch Glen Keane @5:47

The_Iceflash wrote:

Avaitor wrote: You say that you own a couple of Ghibli's films, but have you actually paid attention to the animation in them? The studio's work is a lot more vibrant and fully-detailed than a vast majority of animated work from Japan. I think they deserve more respect than you give them credit.

And I, for one, don't mind watching dubs of anime because animation is dubbed over to begin with. I can name just as many anime series or movies that I have problems with their dubbed versions for as I find dubs I enjoy, but still, animation requires having voice acting dubbed into the characters as opposed to dialogue spoken live on set by actors in a live-action film.

It's also why I watch English dubs of Sergio Leone's films, since Italians used to dub in their actors' dialogue after recording footage as opposed to speaking it live while recording. Not to mention that most, if not all, of the actors in his westerns speak English to begin with, so they end up dubbing in their own dialogue.

The problem I have with anime is that the animation is way too stiff. It comes off horribly, IMO. I don't care for anime character designs either. Oh and I know ALOT about Japanese animation and culture before that card is played to try to invalidate my opinion.

Yeah, I won't try to argue with you, because I actually do agree with you. Some highlights aside, like Ghibli's work and Akira, the frame rates in your usual anime series and films are godawful.

Avaitor wrote:

The_Iceflash wrote: The problem I have with anime is that the animation is way too stiff. It comes off horribly, IMO. I don't care for anime character designs either. Oh and I know ALOT about Japanese animation and culture before that card is played to try to invalidate my opinion.

Yeah, I won't try to argue with you, because I actually do agree with you. Some highlights aside, like Ghibli's work and Akira, the frame rates in your usual anime series and films are godawful.

Oh, that last sentence wasn't specifically toward you. It was a general statement to anyone who might try that card. I should have made it clearer.

The_Iceflash wrote:

Avaitor wrote: Yeah, I won't try to argue with you, because I actually do agree with you. Some highlights aside, like Ghibli's work and Akira, the frame rates in your usual anime series and films are godawful.

Oh, that last sentence wasn't specifically toward you. It was a general statement to anyone who might try that card. I should have made it clearer.

I had a feeling, but hey, no problem.

Is Disney still going to co-fund the Ghibli movies, by any chance?

John Pannozzi wrote:Is Disney still going to co-fund the Ghibli movies, by any chance?

As far as I know, they never funded Ghibli films; they simply distributed them in North America (and in a few other territories)

Hope we get Princess Mononoke finally!

Sotiris wrote:

John Pannozzi wrote:Is Disney still going to co-fund the Ghibli movies, by any chance?

As far as I know, they never funded Ghibli films; they simply distributed them in North America (and in a few other territories)

I thought part of their deal with Ghibli was they would also help fund the films.

MickeyMouseboy wrote:Hope we get Princess Mononoke finally!

GKids only holds the theatrical rights to Princess Mononoke. The home video rights belong to Miramax Films which Disney sold (including its entire library) to Filmyard Holdings. If it gets re-released, it would be through Lionsgate or Echo Bridge Entertainment with which Filmyard Holdings has entered into domestic distribution deals.

estefan wrote:I thought part of their deal with Ghibli was they would also help fund the films.

I don't know. I've searched on the Disney/Ghibli deal and couldn't find any references to co-funding.