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Posted: **Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:06 am**

@Super Aurora: Not everyone who is labeled fat is morbidly obese. Besides, even if they are, it's their choice. What's in it to you?

There's no excuse for being prejudiced or hating someone based on their weight or on their appearance in general.

Posted: **Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:42 am**

Sotiris wrote:@Super Aurora: Not everyone who is labeled fat is morbidly obese. Besides, even if they are, it's their choice. What's in it to you?

There's no excuse for being prejudiced or hating someone based on their weight or on their appearance in general.

Posted: **Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:23 pm**

Sotiris wrote:Yes, Wonderlicious. You say that you dislike hatred, injustice, prejudice etc and then say that you also dislike fat people. Can't see the irony there? Not to mention your dislike for "people who can't cook" which I find utterly ridiculous.

Sigh, maybe I should have said careless obesity, which I have changed it to. I do apologise for any people who were deeply perturbed. But I'm going to say a few things. Sure, hardly any of us are perfectly sculpted figures. All healthy human beings carry at least a little bit of body fat, and many of us carry it in different ways across our bodies to others, even within bloodlines. We all envy other people's looks in some way or another, no matter who we are.

You know, I am reasonably slender, but by no means am I naturally stick thin or conventionally hunky. I have some truly skinny friends whose diets could be described as "indulgent", full of cakes, chips, beer, chocolate and other such stuff. They don't do really much exercise as well, and even if they do, it's pretty light. They remain quite their normal shape, but if I copied their diet and lifestyle, I'd blow up like a balloon. I do constant exercise; I cycle or walk pretty much everywhere within reason, I go to the gym once or twice a week, and I will additionally go swimming two or three times a month at the very least. As far as my diet goes, I've really disciplined myself not to eat between meals, and I also tend to go for healthy meals that I know will keep my stomach full; for example, I've learnt to generally avoid breakfast cereal as it's not very nutritious and it doesn't keep me going for a good five or six hours. I get at least three or four of the five fruit and veg a day quota, as well. I can say that my lifestyle is therefore a lot more recommendable than that of my truly thin friends. Equally, I know reasonably stocky people who have what can be described as a truly healthy aura about them, probably moreso than the skinny people.

I understand that there are people out there with issues that are very complex, and I commend those who work at losing massive amounts of weight for their own sake. But then (and sorry if I come across as harsh), there are people who do nothing to help themselves by not truly questioning their diets when they should, and even worse, those who do little to remedy the situation (example of this problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqf_SIQ3 ... re=related).

And then of course, there's a thing called symbolism. In many developed countries, such as the USA and even Britain, there are high proportions of obese people (not just slightly overweight people). Think of all the starving people in certain parts of the world, often ridden by famine and war. It's a symbol of how the developed world hogs most of the world's resources.

And as for people who can't cook, well, let me just say two things. A number of everyday recipes, sweet and savoury, are easy. Also, a great deal of processed foods and fast food are the root of the obesity epidemic we're in. Enough said.

Posted: **Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:32 pm**

Well, I admit I have some anger on this issue - mostly because of my high school years - but I didn't mean to direct it at you if you're sincerely concerned about this issue. And for the record, Super A's post kind of forces me to say, I'm not insane: I don't condone morbid obesity on any level. That's all there is to say though. I think I came through loud and clear. People would be more apt to try and change themselves if the people who disapproved were supportive rather than mocking, mean, and condescending.

As far as cooking goes, I think it's only peeving when the person who doesn't know how to cook goes: "where's my dinner?!" They at least know how to use a bowl, a microwave, and a can of Chef Boyardee.

Posted: **Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:43 pm**

@Wonderlicious:

1) Even considering "careless" obese people, as you put it, no one has the right to judge them, discriminate against them or ridicule them. It's their life, their health, their choices and no one else's business.

2) People can eat out and still eat healthy and remain slim.

Posted: **Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:17 pm**

Sotiris wrote:1) Even considering "careless" obese people, as you put it, no one has the right to judge them, discriminate against them or ridicule them. It's their life, their health, their choices and no one else's business.

I disagree partially. I say it's enitrely fair and probably good for the obese individual to be judged by someone with a medical background on their condition. They can't be forced to do something about it, but they at least deserve the right information.

Some of mine:

- Bus drivers who drive slowly, take exceptionally long breaks on routes or sit through multiple light changes at the same intersection

- People who can't seperate church and state

- Poeple too lazy to clean up their own messes or even throw out trash in the bin two feet from them

Posted: **Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:52 pm**

^ At the same time, I think doctors too often focus on weight issues when a person may have other problems. For them, it's often an easy excuse (reminds me of an episode of House in the early seasons)

Christopher_TCUIH wrote: -When my cat asks for food and doesn't even touch it when I serve her

They just like to keep the bowl full.

-Watermelons

Blasphemy!

Wonderlicious wrote:Parents/guardians who let their kids become obese

Oh, totally freaking yes!

And you were saying you try not to eat between meals, but I've often read that it's healthier to eat snacks/small meals throughout the day rather than big meals all at once. Either way probably works though.

Posted: **Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:01 pm**

- Kids screaming in a movie theater/chruch/supermarket/any other public place
- Dumbass parents who take their kids to see rated R movies
- People who blare their rap music while driving-- just because you like it doesn't mean everyone else wants to hear it

Posted: **Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:56 pm**

Persephone wrote:- People who blare their rap music while driving-- just because you like it doesn't mean everyone else wants to hear it

This goes for any type of music for me.

Posted: **Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:03 pm**

Persephone wrote:- Kids screaming in a movie theater/chruch/supermarket/any other public place
- Dumbass parents who take their kids to see rated R movies

Good ones, and I'll add people who can't get their kids to be quiet in a theatre or don't care how bright their phones are in there or in general fail to realize that others are trying to actually watch the movie.

Posted: **Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:18 pm**

Persephone wrote:- People who blare their rap music while driving-- just because you like it doesn't mean everyone else wants to hear it

Do you mean any kind of music in general or specifically rap music?

Posted: **Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:15 pm**

tsom wrote:
Persephone wrote:- People who blare their rap music while driving-- just because you like it doesn't mean everyone else wants to hear it
Do you mean any kind of music in general or specifically rap music?

Well, any kind of music; I guess I should have specified. Where I live though, the majority of the time this situation comes up, it's rap music being played. But even if they were listening to Beethoven, it's still rude.

Posted: **Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:57 pm**

Flanger-Hanger wrote:I disagree partially. I say it's enitrely fair and probably good for the obese individual to be judged by someone with a medical background on their condition. They can't be forced to do something about it, but they at least deserve the right information.

Obviously, I didn't mean "judge" in that respect.

Disney's Divinity wrote:At the same time, I think doctors too often focus on weight issues when a person may have other problems. For them, it's often an easy excuse

I agree.

Persephone wrote:Kids screaming in a movie theater

So.many.times. They should be kicked out of the theater yet no one does anything.

Posted: **Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:09 pm**

- My father wanting my mom to give him full custody of me when I was a baby so he could take advantage of child tax credit. I haven't seen him since I was two or three years old and I've been living with my mom my whole life.

- My father blocking my stepdad from adopting me while my stepdad was still alive. My mom and stepdad had been friends long before her relationship with my father. After Mom broke up with my father, she got into a relationship with my stepdad and married him. My stepdad very much wanted to take care of me and my mom. He also wanted to take of my baby brother and baby sister who joined the family later. My stepdad died from a heartattack in 2000 when I was fifteen.

Posted: **Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:04 pm**

Wonderlicious wrote:Here we go. I'm gonna let quite a few of them out, actually...

-People who act super super friendly towards people but deep inside feel no such feelings whatsoever and are putting on a deceitful show

-On the opposite end of the scale, people who come across as rather rude in social situations and defend their actions by claiming themselves to be "rational" or "reserved"

-People with opinions that are so painfully misshapen yet insist that they are glorious, winning arguments

-Sexism: both misogyny and misandry (no matter what anyone says, the latter does exist)

-Racism

-Prejudices against sexual orientation

-The carelessly obese*

-Uncultured people

-Dreadful politicians

-Sexual repression and the hypocrisy surrounding it

-Meddling parents who think they're better teachers than the teacher when they're clearly not

-Injustice

-Teachers whose heart isn't really set on teaching, and are subsequently incompetent as a result

-British tabloids: they pander to the lowest common denominator and seem just to exist for nasty moderately intellectual people to dictate what "lessers" think

-Turning cartoons into live-action films: hopefully Disney will never go the way of Hanna-Barbera or perhaps even Warner Brothers

-Religious zealots

-Political extremists

-Political pundits (especially some of the awful American ones)

-Fast food

-People who can't seem to understand that English isn't the only language spoken

-The grammatical complexities of the German language

-People who can't cook

-People who view books as pointless

-Parents/guardians who let their kids become obese

-Mathematics

-Finding out news/gossip through the likes of Facebook (actually not really a peeve, more just something I find embarrassing)

-People who claim to be an expert on something when they honestly don't have much of a clue

-Patronising/poorly written children's literature

-The shoe-horning of animation as a novelty genre or as "kid's stuff"

-Disney marketing themselves as a brand rather than a particularly iconic film studio

-RyanAir (low-cost airline in Europe)

-Dirty people

-Provincial minded people

-People who have pets, but don't know how to keep them (especially a problem with dogs where people don't get that they have a different mode of thinking to humans, resulting in either spoilt yappers or violent monsters)

-Evil dogs

-Wasps

-People not using citronella when eating outside in summer

-The culture of worryingly excessive drinking over actually going to clubs/bars/parties and having a truly nice time socialising with only a few drinks

-People who can't take non-verbal hints (to quote Goliath) - especially a problem in places like post offices and banks

-Awful "blockbusters"

-When charities try and blackmail or guilt-trip people into supporting them, often with the use of people in streets preying on potential subscribers

-Men who make themselves out to only like manly things, and shun men whose tastes in whatnot are a bit more neutral

-Football (aka soccer) in the UK: I have no qualms with the sport itself, but I just don't like the behaviour of professional footballers and the way supporters turn it into some kind of cult.

-Overly suspicious people

-Child cruelty

-Writing children off as complete failures

-Crime

-When "Install Automatic Updates?" pops up on my computer

most of these are really good to have. i lol'd at "Dirty People" cuz i instantly thought of SA.

Posted: **Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:31 pm**

Persephone wrote: - Dumbass parents who take their kids to see rated R movies
- People who blare their rap music while driving-- just because you like it doesn't mean everyone else wants to hear it

1. i only partially agree, but parents should know better than anyone(except the kids) what their kids can handle maturely. the thing that bothers me is covering their eyes during nude scenes.

2. why should those people give a shit, so long as the window's up?

Posted: **Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:39 pm**

ajmrowland wrote:most of these are really good to have. i lol'd at "Dirty People" cuz i instantly thought of SA.

What you talking about? I always clean myself. I take a shower everyday and wash my armpit and penis (Don't want to get infectious lumps) all the time.

Posted: **Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:07 pm**

Persephone wrote:- Kids screaming in a movie theater/chruch/supermarket/any other public place

Aw, man: I ENCOURAGE kids to scream in church!! What insane person thinks children automatically are filled with a deep appreciation for faith and spirituality? Kids are kids, okay. They're going to misbehave- it's in their job description. If parents and family want to take their children to a place like church, they deserve whatever they get. (And, I hate children- so, you may have just come up with a fool-proof reason for me to have to defend them!)

Seriously, this is nothing but suspect in my mind. Bringing kids to church. Is having kids all a dog-and-pony show to these people?

Posted: **Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:05 am**

Super Aurora wrote:
ajmrowland wrote:most of these are really good to have. i lol'd at "Dirty People" cuz i instantly thought of SA.
What you talking about? I always clean myself. I take a shower everyday and wash my armpit and penis (Don't want to get infectious lumps) all the time.

When I said "dirty people", I meant people who were simply stinky, unkempt and needing a good wash, not that they were necessarily a bit fiendish.

Posted: **Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:08 pm**

Lazario wrote:
Persephone wrote:- Kids screaming in a movie theater/chruch/supermarket/any other public place
Aw, man: I ENCOURAGE kids to scream in church!! What insane person thinks children automatically are filled with a deep appreciation for faith and spirituality? Kids are kids, okay. They're going to misbehave- it's in their job description. If parents and family want to take their children to a place like church, they deserve whatever they get. (And, I hate children- so, you may have just come up with a fool-proof reason for me to have to defend them!)

Seriously, this is nothing but suspect in my mind. Bringing kids to church. Is having kids all a dog-and-pony show to these people?

Precisely. That's what I think too. The kid has no clue what's going on, they aren't going to behave, their screaming just aggravates everyone-- why bring them? Wait till they're old enough to understand what's going on. And yes, I agree some parents do treat parenthood like "a dog-and-pony show".

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