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SmartAleck25 wrote: As for the Illusionist getting it over Tangled, I bet half of us haven't even seen it or know what it is.

Isn't that a movie with Edward Norton?

I know The Illusionist is about some magician and that it's by the same guy who worked on Triplets of Belleville.

mariadny wrote:TS3 best song???????
WUAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
I hate Pixar.
Whatever they do, they always have nominations.............incredible.

dont hate the player; hate the game.

Scamander wrote:

DisneyJedi wrote:Words cannot describe how mad I was that Tangled got snubbed for some stupid foreign film.

The so-called stupid foreign film deserved his nomination way more than Tangled (which I love also!). People like you are the reason why most Europeans think all Americans are stupid, uneducated, arrogant douchebags who wrongly think they were the hub of the universe.

And coming from someone in America, they wouldnt be too far off.

Patrick wrote:

PheR wrote: And music!! Daft Punk's score was amazing and so unique!!

I didn't even think of this.. Another upset. Tron was visually stunning despite any plot holes.

I guess being in a virtual world with no realism doesnt qualify for VFX

As for the score, I'll have to remember it before I decide. Or hear it again.

This board is so biased. Why am I not surprised.

Edit: and yes, daft punk did get snubbed.

ajmrowland wrote:

mariadny wrote:TS3 best song???????
WUAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
I hate Pixar.
Whatever they do, they always have nominations.............incredible.

dont hate the player; hate the game.

You are right, friend. Buy in my case......I hate Pixar, sorry

Barbossa wrote:

SmartAleck25 wrote: As for the Illusionist getting it over Tangled, I bet half of us haven't even seen it or know what it is.

Isn't that a movie with Edward Norton?

that's a different movie. similar concept, though.

This one's animated.

Here is the trailer for The Illusionist. Such an inspiring movie about finding hope and love when all seems aged and lost....and it's hand drawn!!

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DisneyJedi wrote:Words cannot describe how mad I was that Tangled got snubbed for some stupid foreign film.

yeah I don't know what to say here. Illusionist is undoubtedly a masterpiece. It was a strong year and Tangled's chances were weak. Why the surprised masses around here?

toonaspie wrote: Although it's been a good year for animated films there weren't enough as far as stretching the amount of films nominated.

Do you think they'll force the Academy to solidify the Best Animated Feature category to 5 films as a result of this?[/i]

I think they should. I think they need to.
Before the Academy started giving out 10 nominations for Best Picture, there were 5 film slots (correct me if I'm wrong). It didn't matter if there were only 4 great films that year - 5 were nominated.

If they're gonna have a category for the Best Picture Which-Just-So-Happens-To-Be-Animated .... There needs to be 5 nominated films. Always.

Tangled did get snubbed and the category should be expanded to 5 every year. However, it was a great year for animated films and nobody can convince me that Tangled deserved a spot over Toy Story 3, How to Train Your Dragon, or The Illusionist.

The day they drop the Best Animated Feature category is the day I'll start to somewhat care what the Academy thinks (with PIXAR films getting nominated for Best Picture 2 years in a row, I'm hoping this is sooner rather than later). Until then, I couldn't care less what those ignorant enough to separate movies based on medium think.

So a lot of what I'm getting from the topic in general is that Pixar is a glory hog... because the Academy likes them. That's the sound, well-reasoned logic I've often come to expect here.

What would you prefer Pixar to do? Announce that they are withdrawing themselves from consideration and throw their support fully behind "Tangled?" They're not doing anything different from any other studio or creative team.

DisneyJedi wrote:I only called The Illusionist a stupid foreign film because I was extremely mad that Tangled got completely snubbed for the nomination. Granted, I never saw The Illusionist, but it's just not fair!

Ah, that's the right attitude, then. Clearly it's just the Academy screwing it to Disney fans. It's not like "The Illusionist" could actually have some sort of redeeming merit to it or anything.

jpanimation wrote:The day they drop the Best Animated Feature category is the day I'll start to somewhat care what the Academy thinks (with PIXAR films getting nominated for Best Picture 2 years in a row, I'm hoping this is sooner rather than later). Until then, I couldn't care less what those ignorant enough to separate movies based on medium think.

As much as I see that as a point, I honestly think there should be more categories as opposed to simply Best Picture. The Golden Globes are probably the right way to do it. As it stands now, comedies hardly ever get much more than token nominations. I don't think necessarily giving animation its own category makes it any worse.

Granted, don't get me started on how "musical" should not be considered part of "comedy" by default.

Wait...so what is it, is the Best Animated Feature category always only 3 films? Or this year they didn't think there were enough films for a full five? What?

There's Toy Story 3, How to Train Your Dragon, The Illusionist, Tangled, and Dispicable Me, Megamind, Legend of the Guardians, and some more that probably shouldn't be nominated, but could have been.

So can someone please answer?

SpringHeelJack wrote:Granted, don't get me started on how "musical" should not be considered part of "comedy" by default.

Yes, that one is a real offense. You know what, why not have Best Drama, Best Comedy, Best Musical, Best Animated Feature, and Best Picture? And all the films could be nominated in multiple categories, crossing over into many more than one. Maybe even all of them if it's somehow a funny and dramatic animated musical...

SpringHeelJack wrote:

DisneyJedi wrote:I only called The Illusionist a stupid foreign film because I was extremely mad that Tangled got completely snubbed for the nomination. Granted, I never saw The Illusionist, but it's just not fair!

Ah, that's the right attitude, then. Clearly it's just the Academy screwing it to Disney fans. It's not like "The Illusionist" could actually have some sort of redeeming merit to it or anything.

It'll still lose to Pixar. So will HTTYD.

Disney Duster wrote:Wait...so what is it, is the Best Animated Feature category always only 3 films? Or this year they didn't think there were enough films for a full five? What?

There's Toy Story 3, How to Train Your Dragon, The Illusionist, Tangled, and Dispicable Me, Megamind, Legend of the Guardians, and some more that probably shouldn't be nominated, but could have been.

So can someone please answer?

The magic number is sixteen. When there are sixteen or more animated feature films theatrically released in Los Angeles, they will choose five nominees. I think it was decided that there were ten eligible titles released this year. Thus, only three nominations. Last year had this happen, so did 2002 (I think). I couldn't rattle off all eligible films for this year off the top of my head, but I'm sure the list is out there somewhere online.

Disney's Divinity wrote:

SpringHeelJack wrote: Ah, that's the right attitude, then. Clearly it's just the Academy screwing it to Disney fans. It's not like "The Illusionist" could actually have some sort of redeeming merit to it or anything.

It'll still lose to Pixar. So will HTTYD.

I mean... I never said it wouldn't. I never implied it was better than "Toy Story 3" or "HTTYD" as I have yet to see "The Illusionist" (or "Tangled" for that matter) and so I can't accurately do justice to its assets or flaws. I'm just supposing that there's a reason the Academy thought it deserving of a position as their choice for one of the top three animated features of the year other than "let's give the finger to Disney."

SpringHeelJack wrote:

Disney Duster wrote:Wait...so what is it, is the Best Animated Feature category always only 3 films? Or this year they didn't think there were enough films for a full five? What?

There's Toy Story 3, How to Train Your Dragon, The Illusionist, Tangled, and Dispicable Me, Megamind, Legend of the Guardians, and some more that probably shouldn't be nominated, but could have been.

So can someone please answer?

The magic number is sixteen. When there are sixteen or more animated feature films theatrically released in Los Angeles, they will choose five nominees. I think it was decided that there were ten eligible titles released this year. Thus, only three nominations. Last year had this happen, so did 2002 (I think). I couldn't rattle off all eligible films for this year off the top of my head, but I'm sure the list is out there somewhere online.

There were actually 15, so we were just one shy (and that's counting <i>Tinker Bell 3</i> and <i>Cats & Dogs 2</i>, but not <i>Yogi Bear</i>): http://www.oscars.org/press/pressreleas ... 01115.html

SpringHeelJack wrote:

Disney's Divinity wrote:It'll still lose to Pixar. So will HTTYD.

I mean... I never said it wouldn't. I never implied it was better than "Toy Story 3" or "HTTYD" as I have yet to see "The Illusionist" (or "Tangled" for that matter) and so I can't accurately do justice to its assets or flaws. I'm just supposing that there's a reason the Academy thought it deserving of a position as their choice for one of the top three animated features of the year other than "let's give the finger to Disney."

Oh, I know. I wasn't really saying anything about your post, but injecting a bit of sarcasm at the situation.

I haven't seen The Illusionist either. I just think no animated film stands a chance as long as a movie with the Pixar name is up there beside it (regardless of how good or bad that Pixar movie may be). Maybe a Ghibli film would get recognized over them--they should--but I question if even that would be possible at this point. Maybe 50 years from now, when the Pixar name is crap to the public just like Disney, we’ll see how much “good movies” actually has to do with it.

I have nothing against Pixar personally, but against a superficial public/awards ceremony.

But limiting the category of films just because there "weren't enough", skipping films that could be deserving just because there "weren't enough" (says who? Who says that number is the best? Who can say they are right?) just cheapens the idea and truth and merit and respect for btoh the films and the awards.