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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:10 am
by Mooky
A nice article on the Disney renaissance - there are a couple of factual errors, but it's still a really good read and it puts some things into perspective:

http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/disney/5 ... enaissance

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:02 am
by The_Iceflash
Thinking back at this, perhaps interest waned. Let me explain. I saw them in theaters when they came out. The last one I saw in theaters was Mulan. I remember seeing Tarzan being advertised and having no interest in it. I was a pre-teen by that point and my interest in Disney films plummeted dramatically. I suspect that this happened to many in my age group as we became pre-teens/teens in the early 00s. For some reason, Tarzan didn't interest me at all and I never asked to see it like I had the others.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:56 pm
by Semaj
Mooky wrote:A nice article on the Disney renaissance - there are a couple of factual errors, but it's still a really good read and it puts some things into perspective:

http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/disney/5 ... enaissance
I was looking forward to that Little Mermaid re-release. :evil:

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:11 pm
by rodis
The_Iceflash wrote:Thinking back at this, perhaps interest waned. Let me explain. I saw them in theaters when they came out. The last one I saw in theaters was Mulan. I remember seeing Tarzan being advertised and having no interest in it. I was a pre-teen by that point and my interest in Disney films plummeted dramatically. I suspect that this happened to many in my age group as we became pre-teens/teens in the early 00s. For some reason, Tarzan didn't interest me at all and I never asked to see it like I had the others.
Yeah, but this applies to you since, as you said, you entered your teens and lost interest. That's what happened to me as well around that time and I skipped Hercules and Mulan after seeing all of the renaissance films in the theatres.

That's not the reason, obviously, since every time a new Disney film is released, they lose some percentage of their audience for whatever reason, so they have to compensate with new folks. When new people "fail" to buy tickets, that's when there's something wrong.

You gave Tarzan as an example and that was one of the biggest hits of the renaissance and definitely improved upon its 4 predecessors in box office receipts. I remember huge interest in that film from everyone around.
It was definitely a step in the right direction but for some reason they moved in a whole new direction and that's when their films struggled to cross the $100 million mark. "Atlantis", "Treasure Planet", "Brother Bear", "The Emperor's New Groove" - they all have their charm, but none reached the artistic heights of most of the 90's films (and I'm not talking just animation-wise here).

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:28 pm
by REINIER
For one, the titles went from strange to stranger.. Emperors new groove..home on the range, who (outside US territory) could relate to that? I love ENGroove but even I, devoted fan, can see it's flaws. Home on the Range was an absolute lowpoint story-and animationwise to my taste. And then Atlantis, a disney movie without songs, breaking with tradition, the animé look better suited for manga, all factors to take into account and things, that for me personally, deminished the "classic disney". Not to say that's necessarily bad, but for me it took some getting used too. The Renaissance was a breeding ground for 2-d talent and unparelleled to this day. I welcome the thought of disney revisiting good solid stories one day and starts telling stories that endure instead of such horrendous output as Chicken Little that are bound to be forgotten over time. Tangled is a step in the right direction albeit somewhat formulaic. Brave had it's moments off course, Ratatouille & Up prove that there are still stories to be told, now make them endure! Let them stand the test of time! Give us a modern day Pinocchio! Hard labour, reworks, hours locked away in story meetings! It can still be achieved. I have faith in you Disney.. Now gives us pixiedust!