DVDizzy Forum

UmbrellaFish wrote:

Poody wrote:Well I can't say I'm jumping with joy over this, but at least it's in 2D. But is it even a musical?

I noticed on the Wikipedia page that "Mort" has been adapted with music before, so it doesn't seem to be out of the question.

But I wouldn't mind this film not being a musical.

OMG, it's a Disney film, guys! It has to have songs! It must be a musical! Argh! Arrrrrgh! Arrwdejswheufg pasinfvdpfjnvfgjnv



Being serious now...I wouldn't mind it being a musical, though of course, I'm not too bothered if it isn't. I wouldn't mind a soundtrack akin to Tarzan or Toy Story, with one musical artist performing songs in the film as a sort of voice-over - a film with music, so to speak.

The Discworld is a fantasy realm that is flat and sits atop four elephants that stand atop a giant turtle

This makes me very happy. I'm definitely going to have to check out these books. I'm dying to know what this world looks like!

Discworld? How very ambitious! I'm interested to see what will come of it.

I'm not terribly worried about accessibility; each Disworld novel can be picked up independently and followed pretty well, so I think it can be done. I'm seeing a prologue covering the premise of the world before narrowing in on Mort.

Am I the only one who thinks anything from Discworld is too adult for Disney?

It's not aimed at all ages (well, at least 10 and up) like...any of their previous sources.

Disney Duster wrote: It's not aimed at all ages (well, at least 10 and up) like...any of their previous sources.

Sleeping Beauty- rape

HoND- necrophilia, adultery, child negligent, sex(actual one), etc

I could go on.

If disney can adapt HoND, then it can adapt Discworld.

Patrick wrote:

The Discworld is a fantasy realm that is flat and sits atop four elephants that stand atop a giant turtle

This makes me very happy. I'm definitely going to have to check out these books. I'm dying to know what this world looks like!

Pretty much like this.

And this is a cake. Goes to show you, there are some pretty die hard fans out there!

Disney Duster wrote:Am I the only one who thinks anything from Discworld is too adult for Disney?

It's not aimed at all ages (well, at least 10 and up) like...any of their previous sources.

Well, when you think about, most of the original fairy tales weren't really suited for kids. Or at least, for kids of our generation.

The original story of Cinderella had the step-sisters cutting off parts of their feet to fit into the glass slipper.

And in the original Sleeping Beauty, when the prince found her, uh... Let's just say he didn't kiss her to wake up.

LySs wrote: The original story of Cinderella had the step-sisters cutting off parts of their feet to fit into the glass slipper.

That's in the Brothers Grimm version.

Yea, um, that's the Grimm's version with a golden slipper.

Also, those original sources are NOT the stories Disney did their movies on. Disney based theirs on the much more child friendly French or Grimm versions.

However, Discworld has no kid friendly versions. The Discworld series is meant for adults, not for people of all ages.

The Hunchback of Notre Dame I am unsure of, but I think that was less adult than Discworld is.

How about Hercules? Nothing in the original myth screams "Disney animated feature." I'm still surprised somebody at Disney thought they could tell that story as a family film. Though, I guess that's why the story is more Superman than it is the actual story of Hercules.

I guess what I mean is, Discworld aims to be very adult. A lot of the stories brought up here were written long ago when everyone, kids and adults knew them. But Discworld takes a kind of sarcastic adult view of the whole world, kind of skewering and twisting everything. And the language is very adult. It's like...literature that knows it's adult, that intends to be adult, not just tell a good story.

estefan wrote:How about Hercules? Nothing in the original myth screams "Disney animated feature." I'm still surprised somebody at Disney thought they could tell that story as a family film. Though, I guess that's why the story is more Superman than it is the actual story of Hercules.

Goor remark, estefan! Disney's Hercules is just a retelling of the Superman story dressed in Greek mythology.

I haven't read anything of Discworld, and maybe it's better I should not, to retian a fresh look at the Disney version

Disney Duster wrote:I guess what I mean is, Discworld aims to be very adult. A lot of the stories brought up here were written long ago blablabla

I guess what you *really* mean is that you didn't think of all the adult stories Disney had based their movie on, and rather than just saying "you were right, I didn't think of that", you start to come up with bullshit arguments and grasping for straws.

Disney Duster wrote: The Hunchback of Notre Dame I am unsure of, but I think that was less adult than Discworld is.

No it isn't. If you have to or must make a comparison for a demography for Discworld, it would be something akin to LotR. HoND was a political novel.

Like Goliath said, you're just grasping straws here.

No, I'm not. I am not saying I am sure it is too adult, I am just discussing it. I'm pretty familiar with Discworld, from reading one book, looking at others, and seeing some movies, and, actually, the "political novel" part is good at illustrating why Hunchback is different from Discworld.

Hercules, LOTR, and Hunchback were trying to tell stories, that included all things in the world, including violence and sex. Discworld aims to be adult. It specifically is trying to say and do things that conflict with Disney's values and beliefs.

Disney Duster wrote:No, I'm not. I am not saying I am sure it is too adult, I am just discussing it. I'm pretty familiar with Discworld, from reading one book, looking at others, and seeing some movies, and, actually, the "political novel" part is good at illustrating why Hunchback is different from Discworld.

Hercules, LOTR, and Hunchback were trying to tell stories, that included all things in the world, including violence and sex. Discworld aims to be adult. It specifically is trying to say and do things that conflict with Disney's values and beliefs.

But like anything else they did, they can "disney-ified" it just like they did with Hercules, HoND, Jungle Book, etc. And considering who the directors are: Ron and Jon and their comedy routines, it's no-brainer that they will do just that.

Disney Duster wrote: Discworld aims to be adult. It specifically is trying to say and do things that conflict with Disney's values and beliefs.

Not necessarily. In fact, there's even some Discworld books out there for kids/young adults.

If Terry Pratchett was trying to write books that are specifically trying to say and do things that conflict with Disney's values and beliefs, he wouldn't create books from his Discworld series for a younger audience to get into.

But of course, I could be wrong.

I'm not familiar with any of Terry Pratchett's work [though I'm assuming it's like Tolkien but more comedic?], but I'm liking the sound of this very much. Seems like exactly the thing Disney should do. Somewhat different subject matter, but obviously it will incorporate many of the things we love about DACs.

Excpecialy that the next two Disney Princess movies are both CGI (Disney's Tangled and Pixar's Brave.)

Disney Duster wrote:Hercules, LOTR, and Hunchback were trying to tell stories, that included all things in the world, including violence and sex. Discworld aims to be adult. It specifically is trying to say and do things that conflict with Disney's values and beliefs.

It's an artificial distinction that you came up with when you were reminded that your initial arguments didn't held up. Just like your irrelevant point that some stories are from "a long time ago" and 'Discworld' isn't. Why not just say you don't want to see an adaptation from the books because you don't like them? No shame or harm in that.

estefan wrote:How about Hercules? Nothing in the original myth screams "Disney animated feature." I'm still surprised somebody at Disney thought they could tell that story as a family film. Though, I guess that's why the story is more Superman than it is the actual story of Hercules.

I totally agree with you. It "Hercules" was Disney's nod to Superman.

Disney Duster wrote:Yea, um, that's the Grimm's version with a golden slipper.

Also, those original sources are NOT the stories Disney did their movies on. Disney based theirs on the much more child friendly French or Grimm versions.

However, Discworld has no kid friendly versions. The Discworld series is meant for adults, not for people of all ages.

The Hunchback of Notre Dame I am unsure of, but I think that was less adult than Discworld is.

Actually, there is a series of these books meant for Young Adults. The Wee Free Men series comes to mind.