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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:33 pm
by Goliath
DisneyJedi wrote:Oh, everything's her fault. And I suppose the Oil Spill in the Gulf and the 9/11 terrorist attacks are her fault too?!
Oprah was seen in Prague having a meeting with Mohammed Atta just months prior to the 9/11 attacks.
And Oprah is also related to the Oil spill incident. I've heard she rides a car. That car runs on fuel. That's made out of oil. Well, there you go: just because Oprah needed oil, they had to drill in the Gulf of Mexico.
OPRAAAAAAAH!
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:38 pm
by Super Aurora
DisneyJedi wrote:Super Aurora wrote:
Yes it is. Don't you read the newspaper? Everything is Oprah's fault. Get on with the times.
Oh, everything's her fault. And I suppose the Oil Spill in the Gulf and the 9/11 terrorist attacks are her fault too?!
Yes. Well actually the Jews did 9/11, but Oprah is a Jew so it still counts.
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:56 pm
by Avaitor
Oprah was Eisner's BFF while he was still in charge with Disney. He was also close to Katzenberg, and still hangs with him over at Dreamworks.
Also, Oprah is responsible for AIDS.
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:48 pm
by Duckburger
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:01 am
by Disneydood
No, I'm not saying Oprah has anything to do with quality control, I think people are misinterpreting me. I'm saying she basically forced her hooks into the PatF production like she does on everything else she decides to take an interest in, whether it serves the quality of the product or not. I'm saying that kind of thing waters down the integrity of the film just being a film.
My main point was that this mentality is being carried through the new Iger regime and hurting the notion of letting the animated films just be their own entity. Which does not bode well for Tangled. But to be fair, yes, this crap was going on years ago with the "Disney channel Circle of Stars" popping up on the Platinum Editions.
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:08 am
by Disneydood
PS And I never said she had anything whatsoever to do with the success or failure of PatF, I think someone suggested that after my OP and the thread derailed from there. It was a minor aside I was making.
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:26 am
by Poody
I still call the movie Rapunzel... and in fact since most people don't know about the movie yet, I'm still telling them that that's title!
Again, I can't wait til she gets the Sleeping Beauty syndrome at the parks by little girl's dads. "Look honey, lets go get a picture with Tangled!!!!"
To Save Disney this 2010
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:01 pm
by Disney Duster
Edthehyena, those films you mentioned are not as remembered, were not as successful, and did not win as many awards as the more traditional Disney fairy tales.
This film needs to be more successful than those!
Also, Tangled does not sound like a Best Picture nominated film...
Re: To Save Disney this 2010
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:23 pm
by Patrick
Disney Duster wrote:Edthehyena, those films you mentioned are not as remembered, were not as successful, and did not win as many awards as the more traditional Disney fairy tales.
This film needs to be more successful than those!
Also, Tangled does not sound like a Best Picture nominated film...
I don't think that Up, Bolt, Wall-E, Toy Story or Monsters, Inc. sound like Best Picture Nominations either, and yet they were.
I'm sorry, I highly doubt that calling this movie Tangled rather than Rapunzel: Unbraided would severely damage box office sales. Honestly, I feel like it could only help it. This movie is not the classic Rapunzel story so it should not be named as such.
Re: To Save Disney this 2010
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:57 pm
by estefan
Patrick wrote:
Also, Tangled does not sound like a Best Picture nominated film...
I don't think that Up, Bolt, Wall-E, Toy Story or Monsters, Inc. sound like Best Picture Nominations either, and yet they were. [/quote]
Are we talking about the Annies or the Oscars? Because Beauty and the Beast and Up are the only animated films to be nominated for Best Picture, FYI.
To Save Disney this 2010
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:35 pm
by Disney Duster
Patrick, no I meant to call it Rapunzel which was what Glen Keane always wished it was called, then it was finally called that when actual production started, only changed to Tangled at the very last minute.
Are you forgetting they said they changed it to appeal to boys, not because it was that different from the original story? So far everything about it is as classic as the past Disney fairy tale features except in one character's background and it's a little more humorous.
Re: To Save Disney this 2010
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:26 am
by milojthatch
Margos wrote:"Rapunzel" is a fairy tale about a girl who is trapped in a tower, and it ends with her getting out.
"Tangled" is a fairy tale about the same girl, but the story begins when she gets out. It's not about just getting free, it's about coming into her own and finding herself. Maybe it's a different story to tell. Maybe it needs a different name.
Actually, no, that is not true. The full story of "Rapunzel" has a fair amount of story BEFORE and AFTER the tower. That said, I understand what you are saying, I really do, but still disagree with Disney's choice in doing so.
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:40 am
by Wonderlicious
Poody wrote:Again, I can't wait til she gets the Sleeping Beauty syndrome at the parks by little girl's dads. "Look honey, lets go get a picture with Tangled!!!!"
Tbf, I doubt that this would happen. Everyone calls Aurora simply Sleeping Beauty because she is the beautiful girl who slept. The title of the film explains what she is (just how the title of the Lion King refers to Simba, or the Little Mermaid means Ariel), and it's probably somewhat easier to memorise/feel comfortable with considering that she has two names in the film; I have been known to refer to Aurora, especially among non-Disney fans, as simply Sleeping Beauty. If anything, I think that they'll say "the girl from
Tangled".
Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:23 pm
by milojthatch
Wonderlicious wrote:Poody wrote:Again, I can't wait til she gets the Sleeping Beauty syndrome at the parks by little girl's dads. "Look honey, lets go get a picture with Tangled!!!!"
Tbf, I doubt that this would happen. Everyone calls Aurora simply Sleeping Beauty because she is the beautiful girl who slept. The title of the film explains what she is (just how the title of the Lion King refers to Simba, or the Little Mermaid means Ariel), and it's probably somewhat easier to memorise/feel comfortable with considering that she has two names in the film; I have been known to refer to Aurora, especially among non-Disney fans, as simply Sleeping Beauty. If anything, I think that they'll say "the girl from
Tangled".
I bet it will go both ways.
To Save Disney this 2010
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:55 pm
by Disney Duster
A member named
Tristy told us about an
interview with Rapunzel's voice artist where she said:
MTV: Is the Disney take on Rapunzel the same as the original fairy tale?
Moore: Pretty much. She has an overprotective mother who tells her she's not missing out on anything, and it's a big bad world out there and it's too scary and dangerous and she'll be eaten alive, literally, if she decides to venture out into the world.
MTV: What was your reaction to Disney changing the film's original title, in an effort to lure in more young boys?
Moore: I think I was initially a bit taken aback, only because people know the story of Rapunzel, so when you say you're working on "Rapunzel," it's sort of a no-brainer, you don't have to explain it to people. But as the title sort of sunk in, I understood the decision behind changing it. The movie is so great and so cute, and people are going to see the trailer and know what the story is about. I guess you sort of have to leave it up to the brains at the top. They know what they're doing.
Yea, the "brains" that decided to call what is the traditional Rapunzel story the name Tangled.
To Save Disney this 2010
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:23 pm
by Disney Duster
Edthehyena, I know the twist was aliens and outer space for Treasure Planet, and the twist was cats and dogs and modern day for Oliver and Company. Can you please tell me what is the twist for Tangled that is like those, that is as twisted as those, that is not like past Disney fairy tales?
Especially when Mandy Moore, voice of Rapunzel, says it is really traditional and close to the original story.
