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Re: notes
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:05 am
by pap64
kurtadisneyite wrote:Memory says Bedknobs and Broomsticks was a modest success, not a runaway hit.
As for TPATF, my 2-cents is it must resonate with the younger, hipper audiences if Disney is to truly launch a "new age" alongside their successful Pixar franchise. trying to update the older Disney classics via sequels has been hit or miss (Cinderella III seems the best, but Lasseter has killed that approach for now), the new product remains the only avenue left.
However, older "boomer era" Disney artists I know who saw TPATF told me it looked and sounded __fantastic__, but was trying to be too contemporary and "didn't create its own world".
I still believe people are seeing two different films in Princess and the Frog. The D23 preview had people enthused, everyone from fans to animation experts and other artists. Yet, if your sources are to be believe, it isn't a Disney film at all.
I am willing to believe that fans WILL measure this movie's worth against that of the other classics, and will likely come up with the idea that "It isn't magical enough". Yet those that will measure the movie using its own strengths will say its a great film.
In other words, younger Disney fans and fans of the 90s films will love it, but older fans might get lost in it.
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:55 am
by Poody
Wow, very weird. I saw the first 30 minutes at D23 and I think it was very 90's Disney. Not dated or anything, but it could fit in with all those films. Though... it still stood out with an original story and characters.
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:04 pm
by Disney's Divinity
Poody wrote:Wow, very weird. I saw the first 30 minutes at D23 and I think it was very 90's Disney. Not dated or anything, but it could fit in with all those films. Though... it still stood out with an original story and characters.
Well, considering the films of the 90s led to a formulaic trainwreck that everyone got sick of--that might not be the best thing.
Also, to my earlier comment about the thread being pessimistic, I generally meant that in regards to how so many members seem to hold TP&TF in disdain lately. And also because the thread was concentrated on TP&TF's
possible success--the creator was never saying it
would be a success. And yet people took that in turn to claim that everyone's "overestimating" or deluded from reality. With many rolling eyes. Always enjoyable.
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:48 pm
by Poody
Disney's Divinity wrote:Poody wrote:Wow, very weird. I saw the first 30 minutes at D23 and I think it was very 90's Disney. Not dated or anything, but it could fit in with all those films. Though... it still stood out with an original story and characters.
Well, considering the films of the 90s led to a formulaic trainwreck that everyone got sick of--that might not be the best thing.
Well, that depends who you talk to. Like when... Aladdin recently aired on ABC Family, it was one of the most top topics on twitter and read a few of them.... people were talking about how much they loved it. Most of the people I know are also a little tired of the usual Pixar or CG films also.
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:45 pm
by pap64
There hasn't been a 90s like animated film in years. CG is the one taking over the screens now so the movie, despite its 90s mentality, is actually quite refreshing in its nostalgic value.
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:39 pm
by toonaspie
Poody wrote:Wow, very weird. I saw the first 30 minutes at D23 and I think it was very 90's Disney. Not dated or anything, but it could fit in with all those films. Though... it still stood out with an original story and characters.
I think a lot of that has to do with Clemens and Musker directing the film. It would be a different story if different people were running the film. But I guess this was the best approach to get everyone riled up about 2D again by getting every re-familiar with it.