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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:25 am
by PeterPanfan
Wow. I honestly don't know if even Reyquila would purchase this. (Who am I kidding?)
I only have like... three of the Treasures, and I would rather hunt them down than pay this kind of price.
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:01 am
by a-net-fan
goofystitch wrote:Cordy_Biddle wrote:Do any other props and costumes survive from "Babes in Toyland"?
It's wonderful to see these pieces (does Annette know about them being on display?). So many classic costumes from other studios were sold/auctioned off years ago, never to be heard from again...
I'm sure there are many more props and costumes in the Disney archives from Babes in Toyland, but I have no idea what else they have. While Disney never did any big auctions the way MGM and Warner did, it's hard to know what has survived the years and the lack of an archive at the time the film was made.
When I met Dave Smith, he told me a story of when he first started archiving props and costumes. One thing he had been looking for that he absolutely couldn't find was the snowglobe that Julie Andrews held during "Feed the Birds" from Mary Poppins. He assumed it had been destroyed or taken during production. A few years later, he was called into somebody's office at the studio and he noticed a snow globe on their shelf of the British Bank that Mr. Banks worked at. The person didn't even know that it was the snow globe from Mary Poppins, but they found it sitting on top of a trash can at the studio years earlier and rescued it because it was pretty. So there unless Disney releases a list of exactly what they have, we may never know what else survived from Babes in Toyland.
I am not sure what other props the studio may have from the Babes in Toyland movie. So many props were destroyed or lost after production, even from the most classic Disney Films such as 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. I do know that the Yellow Dress that Annette wore in Babes in Toyland was offered for sale on Ebay a number of years ago as was repoted in her fan club newsletter. It didnt get any bids and to my knowledge has never been relisted. It wasnt being sold by the studio so its hard to know just how someone from outside the studio did end up getting their hands on that. Like Goofystitches fantastic story proves....before the archives started collecting and documenting such things.....anyone could get their hands on anything and it could be just thrown out very easily. Dave Smith is a very nice man and im sure if you would write him about this he would be happy to fill you in. I would sure like to know what happend to Annettes Wedding Dress. For those who dont know.... Annette loved the wedding dress in the movie so much she asked the man who designed it if when she got married if he would design her Wedding Dress....and he did.
Annette on her wedding day
Thanks again Goofystitch for sharing the cool story about the Mary Poppins Snow Globe!
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:13 am
by goofystitch
a-net-fan wrote:I do know that the Yellow Dress that Annette wore in Babes in Toyland was offered for sale on Ebay a number of years ago as was repoted in her fan club newsletter. It didnt get any bids and to my knowledge has never been relisted. It wasnt being sold by the studio so its hard to know just how someone from outside the studio did end up getting their hands on that.
Since she wore the yellow dress through the majority of the film, there were probably several made. I'm not sure how the eBay person got a hold of one, but I would be shocked if the archives didn't have at least one of the yellow dress in their collection. When I think of Babes in Toyland, that's the image of Annette that pops into my head.
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:28 pm
by Cordy_Biddle
a-net-fan, I believe Bill Thomas was costume designer for "Babes in Toyland". Does anyone have an address for Dave Smith? I loved his column in the old Disney Magazine, but sadly no longer have the few issues I managed to get hold of.

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:19 pm
by Tomorrowland Man
PeterPanfan wrote:Wow. I honestly don't know if even Reyquila would purchase this. (Who am I kidding?)
I only have like... three of the Treasures, and I would rather hunt them down than pay this kind of price.
I did the math. It's much, much, much cheaper to buy this set than go through all of the sellers and collect them all. And it's also much cheaper buying them together than if I had bought them when they were originally released.
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:01 am
by a-net-fan
Cordy_Biddle wrote:a-net-fan, I believe Bill Thomas was costume designer for "Babes in Toyland". Does anyone have an address for Dave Smith? I loved his column in the old Disney Magazine, but sadly no longer have the few issues I managed to get hold of.

Yes that is correct. To quote from Annettes Autobiography A DREAM IS A WISH YOUR HEART MAKES :
"As promised years before, Bill Thomas created my wedding gown of satin covered by imported French chantilly lace, with a five foot long cathedral train frosted with crystal beads. The headpiece was adapted from the one I wore during the wedding scene of Babes in Toyland."
For fastest response you can try emailing Dave through the D23 website (on the Archives page) or if you would rather mail a letter, use this address:
The Walt Disney Archives
500 So. Buena Vista Street
Burbank, CA 91521-1200
Good luck and let us know if you hear back from him!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:08 am
by a-net-fan
goofystitch wrote:a-net-fan wrote:I do know that the Yellow Dress that Annette wore in Babes in Toyland was offered for sale on Ebay a number of years ago as was repoted in her fan club newsletter. It didnt get any bids and to my knowledge has never been relisted. It wasnt being sold by the studio so its hard to know just how someone from outside the studio did end up getting their hands on that.
Since she wore the yellow dress through the majority of the film, there were probably several made. I'm not sure how the eBay person got a hold of one, but I would be shocked if the archives didn't have at least one of the yellow dress in their collection. When I think of Babes in Toyland, that's the image of Annette that pops into my head.
Thats true...I bet there was more then one made. After all she even wore that yellow dress on Disneylands BACKSTAGE PARTY. That would be a lot of wear and tear for one dress. I also think of Annette in the Yellow dress mostly when I think of her in Babes in Toyland but I think my favorite dress is the bluish one she wore with the flowers on it. it has great detail ...even has little flowers on the shoes. It looks more like a dress I would picture Mary Quite Contrairy from the classic childrens storybooks wearing.
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:27 pm
by Cordy_Biddle
a-net-fan wrote:Cordy_Biddle wrote:a-net-fan, I believe Bill Thomas was costume designer for "Babes in Toyland". Does anyone have an address for Dave Smith? I loved his column in the old Disney Magazine, but sadly no longer have the few issues I managed to get hold of.

Yes that is correct. To quote from Annettes Autobiography A DREAM IS A WISH YOUR HEART MAKES :
"As promised years before, Bill Thomas created my wedding gown of satin covered by imported French chantilly lace, with a five foot long cathedral train frosted with crystal beads. The headpiece was adapted from the one I wore during the wedding scene of Babes in Toyland."
For fastest response you can try emailing Dave through the D23 website (on the Archives page) or if you would rather mail a letter, use this address:
The Walt Disney Archives
500 So. Buena Vista Street
Burbank, CA 91521-1200
Good luck and let us know if you hear back from him!
Thanks for the tips,
a-net-fan!

Will try emailing him first; and will be sure to let everybody here know if he replies.

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:26 pm
by Escapay
For anyone who's collected all the Treasures and will be getting this set, I'd love to buy your old copy of Chronological Donald, Volume Three. That's the only Treasure I'm actively searching for (well, that and Mickey Mouse in Black and White Volume 1), and would love to take it (or them) off your hands if the price is right.
albert
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:44 pm
by Tomorrowland Man
Escapay wrote:For anyone who's collected all the Treasures and will be getting this set, I'd love to buy your old copy of Chronological Donald, Volume Three. That's the only Treasure I'm actively searching for (well, that and Mickey Mouse in Black and White Volume 1), and would love to take it (or them) off your hands if the price is right.
albert
I have Black and White, Volume 1 if you want it. It's packed away though and the tin might be a little banged up but that's how I got it in the first place.
Not sure but if you want it, let's talk.
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:25 pm
by Tomorrowland Man
Escapay, I got your message but unfortunately I'm unable to send you a message back for reasons unbeknownst to me. If you want to get in touch, I'm normally on AIM most of the time and if not, email me @
wallyq@ymail.com.
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:26 pm
by Escapay
Thanks Tomorrowland Man. E-mail probably works best for me as I rarely check my PMs.
(BTW, any member that joined during/after June 2006 can't reply to PMs sent by them as it was a way to cut down on bandwidth, which is why you couldn't reply to my PM.)
albert
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:21 am
by Sotiris
I just ordered the D23 membership along with the 54-disc Treasures set (which was up for pre-order and will become available on December 8th) and my credit card was charged immediately for the whole price. My questions are: 1) Why was my card charged before the items got shipped? 2) In case the Treasures set runs out by the time my order is shipped, how will I get my money back?
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:41 pm
by drnilescrane
Don't worry - it's just a pre-authorization ($700 is a lot of money they want to make sure you can afford it). It won't become a charge untill it ships.
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:50 pm
by Sotiris
I decided to cancel my Treasures set because I run into an emergency and needed the money. I want to cancel my D23 membership too since the only reason I ordered it in the first place was for the Treasures set. Does anyone know how I can do that? It hasn't shipped yet, so theoretically I should be able to cancel it.
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:53 pm
by drnilescrane
There should be a cooling off period for the membership. I'd get some cheap Skype credit, call up the hotline and start from there. Don't get off the line until you get a resolution or somebody is crying. Only if for some reason you fail, then get onto your bank and chargeback. Tell them why it's misleading.
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:38 pm
by goofystitch
The terms and conditions of joining D23 that you checked off as reading stated that membership was non refundable.
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:41 pm
by Sotiris
It is non-refundable when it has shipped and thus you cannot return it. My order has not been shipped yet; not even 24 hours have passed since I placed it. I've sent an email asking if I can cancel it, but haven't gotten a reply yet.
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:51 pm
by drnilescrane
sotiris2006 wrote:It is non-refundable when it has shipped and thus you cannot return it. My order has not been shipped yet; not even 24 hours have passed since I placed it. I've sent an email asking if I can cancel it, but haven't gotten a reply yet.
Exactly, cooling off period.
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:01 pm
by Ala ad-Din
They mention needing US addresses but say this is a North American product - is Canada not in North America?