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Wonderlicious wrote:
Not only have I seen the screencaps, but I've watched the films with the restorations on them;

"I actually didn't really look at The Little Mermaid screencaps as a last-minute reference when I was writing my previous post in here. So stop making it seem like I did".

So you can't blame me for thinking that you DID see them ok?
What else did you mean by that first sentence?

And "I personally don't care all that much".
Well, I do.

And I do wonder how far Disney can go before people like you are actually going to care. Putting scenes in or out? Forgetting to put lines in? Changing the whole look of the film? If you don't care about he look or the sound of a film, then wat do you care about? The fact that it's called "Pinocchio"?

As for forgetting the lines, that was an individual who did the American audio track. Putting scenes in and taking them out, so long as the length and story are not changed, is okay. Changing the whole look of a film, is not, but that's pretty specific to Beauty and the Beast. Not an actual restoration.

Face it, you're fighting a one-man battle.

And in all honesty, Wonderlicious is right. You seem so obsessed to a point over the mere "looks" of what are very good films, it's unhealthy.

Going for quality is very healthy.

Seeing great things being butcherd before your eyes is frustrating.

And It's certainly not a one man battle.
It's like the case with BATB, many people were disappointed. Some didn't care. But even those who didn't care agree now that the original version looks better. They just didn't know it back then.

Ignorance is much more unhealthy in my opinion.

But admitting that mistakes don't always happen on purpose is also healthy.

And I already stated Beauty and the Beast as the exception, so you have no excuse to go back to that argument again, unless we talk specifically about that film again.

a mistake by definition cant be on purpose. lol

That's what I was implying. Other "mistakes" are basically written in movie scripts.

I was watching the new version of Snow White today, and I noticed that there is a scene that is extremely blurry.
It's the last part of the song "with a smile and a song".

It looks really bad.
Luckily this is not on my laserdisc version.

Anyone else noticed this?

No. I was too busy focusing on the actual movie(which is 72 years old and without a complete, crystal clear digital source); not the visuals of one shot.

ajmrowland wrote:No. I was too busy focusing on the actual movie(which is 72 years old and without a complete, crystal clear digital source); not the visuals of one shot.

Marky_198 wrote:I was watching the new version of Snow White today, and I noticed that there is a scene that is extremely blurry.
It's the last part of the song "with a smile and a song".

It looks really bad.
Luckily this is not on my laserdisc version.

Anyone else noticed this?

Misalignment of the multiplane camera planes, or damaged ones. The laserdisc version simply wasn't sharp enough to show it.

ajmrowland wrote:No. I was too busy focusing on the actual movie(which is 72 years old and without a complete, crystal clear digital source); not the visuals of one shot.

Yeah right, focusing on the movie and not noticing that a whole scene is so blurry that you can't even make out what film it is.

"I watched a movie, just not the colors, sharpness, and whole scenes really".

KubrickFan wrote:
Misalignment of the multiplane camera planes, or damaged ones. The laserdisc version simply wasn't sharp enough to show it.

Well, fact is that this whole scene is very sharp in the laserdisc version.
Much sharper than the new dvd and Blu ray.

So I wonder when they damaged this.

Marky, if they made it less blurry, you'd bitch about that, too.

Marky, you are so right. I just looked, and you're right. So, so, so right. Now, will you go away and let us all gape with disgust at our horrible Blu-ray release? I think we all need some alone time to reflect upon how right you are.

Marky_198 wrote:I was watching the new version of Snow White today, and I noticed that there is a scene that is extremely blurry.
It's the last part of the song "with a smile and a song".

It looks really bad.
Luckily this is not on my laserdisc version.

Anyone else noticed this?

That's the way it has always been, like the previous poster said.

Why do you even bother watching films if the only thing you're going to do is complain about everything you dislike about them ? If you are happy with your laserdiscs, then watch your laserdiscs and stop cluttering up thread after thread with your never-ending complaints. Nobody cares.

Nobody has an answer that you want to hear, so stop asking questions that you know will never be answered to your satisfaction. Nobody on the board has the power to go back to the original negatives and make a 'Marky_198 Edition' of all of the classics, so stop wasting yours and everyone else's time with your elementary complaints.

Marky_198 wrote:

KubrickFan wrote:
Misalignment of the multiplane camera planes, or damaged ones. The laserdisc version simply wasn't sharp enough to show it.

Well, fact is that this whole scene is very sharp in the laserdisc version.
Much sharper than the new dvd and Blu ray.

So I wonder when they damaged this.

Like I said, it was always there, you just couldn't see it because of the fact that for one, Blu-ray has a much higher quality than Laserdisc, and two, there was a new 4K scan and probably 2K restoration done. I doubt that was the case for the Laserdisc edition, so this one reveals more flaws than the much older Laserdisc.
But I thought you didn't watch Blu-ray anymore? They hurt your eyes, didn't they? So how would you know the difference.
And if it's really the case that the Laserdisc is much sharper, then it's still not good. 1937's technicolor was incredibly soft, so they might've screwed with the sharpness for the Laserdisc.

Margos wrote:

ajmrowland wrote:No. I was too busy focusing on the actual movie(which is 72 years old and without a complete, crystal clear digital source); not the visuals of one shot.

Wow! My post got Pinkied!

I actually popped in the disc to check (after this many rants, I'd say Marky is due to be right on one occasion...).
Do not know what you're on about. No softness, certainly no softer than the rest of the scene. In fact, I was waiting for a blurry moment, but then the song ended and the movie continued, sharp and pretty.
So no, can't say I noticed it.

Nandor wrote:I actually popped in the disc to check (after this many rants, I'd say Marky is due to be right on one occasion...).
Do not know what you're on about. No softness, certainly no softer than the rest of the scene. In fact, I was waiting for a blurry moment, but then the song ended and the movie continued, sharp and pretty.
So no, can't say I noticed it.

Ok, this really explains a lot about your ignorance.

Screenshots anyone?

KubrickFan wrote: And if it's really the case that the Laserdisc is much sharper, then it's still not good. 1937's technicolor was incredibly soft, so they might've screwed with the sharpness for the Laserdisc.

It has nothing to do with that.

The scene is wrong and damaged.
It seems like you have double standards.
In previous versions this scene looks perfect, and suddenly it looks damaged and extremely blurry.

So do you or do you not care about the filmmakers intentions?
Because this mistake is certainly not what was intended.